New Health Care Thing-a-ma-bob

With all the fliggity flab and what not flying around about the "new deal" republican style this and that. Back slapping, complements ect.......there remains a large sector of the population.....them there that have had their rate go up by 2/3 and more shortly after the first one past.....who are really not impressed, are not going to get involved in hero worship and until their health care cost go down a good deal remain un-inf'in-impressed by any of the bulls**t.

Talking about the greatest effected and yet the least mentioned by anyone. The mules out there puling the load, making sure the insurance firms still made par.....and sh*t.

a reply to: Logarock

By definition, insurance is a scam on the people. Not only do you pay for it in taxes, you also pay for it in deductibles and premiums. Then, you also get to pay for whatever healthcare it doesn't cover. Seems crystal clear that this is a two part problem that both parties seem to defend to the bitter end.

Banks (currency) and the auto industry are in the same vein.

New Health Care Thing-a-ma-bob

Still gotta get passed the senate and signed off on by the president.

I don't get what the hubbub is about until then.

Nothings changed.

a reply to: Logarock

Its so awkward for me looking at a dysfunctional western society like the USA, without a proper healthcare program

a reply to: Logarock

It's the most despicable display of partisan politics seen from the GOP and Trump to date. It's going to cause major harm to the working class and the middle class, where Trumpette's support base is largest. It's a disaster for any one who is currently dealing with major illness or mental illness and their families. Physicians for Reproductive health called it a "targeted attack against reproductive health care", among other vocal opponents to the new bill are The American Cancer Society, AARP, The American College of Physicians and the National Education Association.

This is not how we make America great again. This is how we make the wealthy more powerful.

Captain Orangeboy and his various groups of control mongering trolls are laughing all the way to the bank.

Read the bill here HR 277 and then take a look at who voted for it HERE.

Every single yes vote on that list should be the first people who have to sign up for their new plans, then tell the rest of us how much better they really think it is.

a reply to: JinMI

Yea and the blabber mouths keep taking about "restoring chose to the people" and getting "insurance back into the free market again" LOL. Its really the a hoot what been going on there.

a reply to: AnonyMason

The people still voted for him

a reply to: Ekwensu

Agreed.

originally posted by: Ekwensu
a reply to: Logarock

Its so awkward for me looking at a dysfunctional western society like the USA, without a proper healthcare program

Well its simple to understand. Not only the health care firms but the health care providers are in on it. They ride in tandem. The key word is bilk and pay off politicians one way or another.

Its so bad now that in some case one spouse in a marriage is working simply to pay the premiums which are as much as a house payment.

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: JinMI

Yea and the blabber mouths keep taking about "restoring chose to the people" and getting "insurance back into the free market again" LOL. Its really the a hoot what been going on there.

All the while no one mentions big pharma.

Priceless.

originally posted by: Ekwensu
a reply to: AnonyMason

The people still voted for him

Well don't choke on that. Just think of it as at least the people responded to the possibility that we could get out from under the stone.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: JinMI

Yea and the blabber mouths keep taking about "restoring chose to the people" and getting "insurance back into the free market again" LOL. Its really the a hoot what been going on there.

All the while no one mentions big pharma.

Priceless.

LOL I am sorry.

It's a re branding of health care that still doesn't address the root of the problem: the profit driven nature of health care. The American health care industry is a largely for-profit sector. Health care is expensive because companies have to charge more to maintain revenue. So while health insurance costs at least in terms of insurance will go down for a small group of people... a very small group... Costs for those who require quality health care (EG people who are sick with cancer or pregnant mothers) the costs will go up.

There's also this little detail about the 24 million or so citizens ho will undoubtedly lose their coverage completely and be forced to go shopping for a new doctor yet again.

It's a fiasco. The members of the House who passed this should be drug out into the street and shot along with the President. Not a single person involved has the best interests of their respective constituents at heart. In the end this is a political maneuver to make corporations these politicians are involved with more money. It's not a step in the right direction, it's two or three steps in the wrong direction. One that Trump supporters will realize, in due time, is going to hurt them more then benefit them.

Something is out of whack.

Fast Facts on US Hospitals

a reply to: AnonyMason


Whats happening to many now, what sort of jam they are in, is that they may well pay over 100,000$ over the next 10 years with maybe 10% of that being paid out in claims. Not to mention with the high deductions......which is another way of saying F-you..... still in a jam.

Paying 10,000 a year and still paying thousands out of pocket......and still cringing when you need to go to DR.

a reply to: Logarock

Eh, wake me when they actually get something on Trump's desk. Until then, so what?

They're already saying this one is DOA in the senate meaning whatever is in this isn't going to be what comes out of there ... assuming anything does, and they may pull a Democrat maneuver and simply strip the entire language of the bill and insert whatever evil little thing they come up with.