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originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: CreationBro
There is no doubting the part feelings play in what we are discussing. The question I would like to hear your thoughts on is what stirs those feelings to the degree that leads to the sort of thing we are seeing from the demographic in question.
Thanks for taking part.
originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: ZIPMATT
Too to True Brit and Zipmatt. Thank you both for adding your thoughts to thread.
I think the question I asked TrueBrit in response to his contribution is also one I would very much like to hear your thoughts on. I am English and live in England so I know the facts of what are referring to and the bearing they have on this discussion and I appreciate you brining them to the thread. I would like to ask you what responsibility, if any, you think western men have regarding the issue in question and its consequences.
originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
I agree with you it is hard to understand and we will not get to the point of understanding if we blind ourselves to this all too common reality. Thanks for taking the trouble to contribute.
originally posted by: CulturalResilience
'The first two weeks were quite the love story. I observed that he was drinking heavily, and called him an “alky,” but it was just a joke at first.'
That"strange feeling" she is describing seems to be indicative an increasingly common North/South disconnect among the modern western liberal women, who despite over a half a century of struggling for equality with men, finds being objectified and belittled by a foreign man bypasses all feminist indoctrination in the brain, and causes an unfamiliar and, not unpleasant tingling sensation, further below. This is further evidenced by the fact that she stayed with the man for more than two months, experiencing numerous episodes of his charming and enriching vibrancy.
originally posted by: Malraux
What an interesting topic. As a woman and as a former Army captain, I've witnessed this phenomenon with both men and women and have arrived at my own conclusions.
The number one issue, and all of this is my own belief, is the demasculization of western, white males. Biology is not as "progressive" as a lot of feminists want it to be. Women are attracted to MEN who metaphorically and literally spit in the face of danger. (Not counting lesbians, of course). The average western male has been bullied into silence, and those that haven't, have already given their hearts away.
The second issue is the self esteem of a lot of feminists and social justice obsessed women. As a woman,I feel powerful in my femininity and in my draw of life. The women seeking these relationships are missing out on their place in the world. Just like weak men who lack a strong work and or fail to lead their families, these feminists have blamed all their problems on those men they fail to attract.
Within these issues is the added bonus of deception and misplaced white guilt. Of course racial relationships aren't perfect in the world but these social justice feminists, they get a "two fer" in these situations. Those seeking to come to the US or commit crimes against western values tend to be young, poor, and uneducated men. Where else can a non-sexually confident woman with poor attractive qualities to a mate meet and be romanced by a young, virile, exotic man? Then, the added bonus of sticking it to the "alt-right"- a.k.a. westernized, white, alpha males- gives them "street cred".
These relationships are doomed from the start, prior to even being considered. Lust for a tall, dark, and handsome man pales shortly after being introduced to the real world applications of "there's no difference, we're all human beings". They offer themselves up as chattel to an agenda. All of the control they claimed to have over their bodies is given up.
The subject of fairy tales has been brought up. My take on it is that they want the fairy tale but believe they don't. It's seen as beneath them to love a man who is successful. After all, doesn't his success mean a woman, the poor, persons of color, or a member of the LGBT community was overlooked? They prioritize their socio-political beliefs and mix in an unobtainable fairy tale.
I know this is long, but this just happened to my mother's sister. A strong feminist, she met a man online a couple of years ago. They "fell in love" quickly; within weeks, she was sending money to Pakistan. She sent him money for a plane ticket but it was "stolen". When he finally came over- yes, she brought him over- it was horrific. He was, in no way, attracted to her. She was 62 and he was 28. They had a sexual relationship but he derided her constantly. He stayed with her for a couple of weeks, then took off to who knows where. My aunt was visited by many govt agents and questioned about monies, ties, etc.
A year after this happened, she met a man online who was serving time in prison. She championed his innocence and protested outside of the jail, city hall, police stations, wherever. The cops were dirty and he was framed. He was released about 8 months after they met online. She picked him up with balloons, signs, new clothing and brought him home.
He robbed her blind that night and stole her car.