Why we need to let the GOP have their agenda...

The real reason the GOP is shying away from implementing their policies after ATLEAST a decade of opposition party tactics where the GOP pushes all of these crazy policies that sound good, but upon any closer inspection reveals would be a total disaster.. is because they have been talking horse crap for the past few decades. They were just playing to the "I shouldn't have to pay for that " crowd. While knowing the actual ramifications of that would be devestating???

Let's play out the normal republican schtick shall we???

First off I think we need to point out the automation thing...

Every second it takes less humans to do the amount of work required to keep all of humanity fed, clothed and entertained.

And the only expanding industry that actually requires real life people is like you tube type content. Everything else is shrinking to oblivion..

Servers/cashiers get replaced by kiosks.

Truck drivers will be replaced by self driving cars ..

Hell even holly wood is using more and more cgi..

Exc, exc, exc..

Period for all of human history, every advancement in technology meant it took less humans to do the same job. This was always going to reach a tipping point where the number of humans required, was only a fraction of our total population.

Ok so to the actual republiccan talking points..


1) Big cuts to welfare...

Ok so less and less jobs, and not just that, but jobs that pay less and less and less help from the gov sector..

So by any measure you have more and more poor people that are poorer and poorer. Which ALWAYS leads to more crime and more damaged people..


2) kill obama care and stop the subsidies..

Even the republicans admit that premiums will not go down.. we are the last modern country allowing insurance companies to take a huge cut off the top when they are only middle men who do not preform a medical function. The insurance companies know their days are numbered and will be milking the system for everything WE are worth.

3) deregulate big buisness and they will pay more.

Why??? Paying more to your employees isn't profitable.. paying them the very least you possibly can is more profitable.. and that isn't even considering automation marking ALL jobs fewer and farther between.



The GOP's publicly stated agenda will be a disaster that would fall 100% at their feet..

All their blow hard policy positions in real life would create countless poor, watch countless sick die and possible even have people starving in the streets...


Honestly, I am all for it...

We will never have the political will to go single payer or establish a universal salary, without a whole lot of pain...

You'll need prob half the country to be uninsured and 60% unemployment and the fastest way to that. Is letting the GOP have their way.

Or I guess have them actually admit they were talking nonsense and them "do the right thing" but I doubt it..

If anyone knows of another way where 51+ percent of the population activate and take action, I would love to hear it, but I'm betting we have to let it get soooo bad, there is no other option.. and the only way to do that, is for trump and the GOP to get their way..

Quit watching CNN.

You lost, time to be quiet.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I don't support one side or the other, but the last eight years seemed more of an extension to the Bush administration than anything.

As long as both sides are beating the war drums you can forget about domestic policy change until we free up some budget.

What you're declaring just adds to the illusion there is a different between the two branches of the same party.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Quit watching CNN.

You lost, time to be quiet.

We're all losing. Trump is proving to be just another puppet. He's reversed on much of his platform.

And the whole executive orders thing is looking to be a ruse to appear to appease the voter base while we all know most will be shut down.

This administration is an extension of the agenda we've seen for decades.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

He has had 100 days.

He is finding out how deep and stinky the swamp is.

I think he needs more time.

I see the comprising as an attempt to get something done.

Or, you could be right. Would Hillary be any better ?

a reply to: whyamIhere

No, but that question is a logical fallacy.

She was obviously the worst candidate in history.

But just because I prefer him over her doesn't mean I'll support or trust him.

Why anyone would trust a billionaire who constantly flip flops is beyond me.

Is he sticking to anything? Nafta, repeal and replace? (even if they did it wasn't to different).

But the biggest of all, he promised to have a domestic focus rather than foreign. The one thing he had the power to do or not do, he's shown what his stance will be.

And with the Democrats praising him for his strikes, I see more to come to stroke his ego.

a reply to: whyamIhere

He has had 100 days.

Still more excuses for him? Didnt he have a 1st 100 days list? Where is he on that? oh right....backtracking..

He is finding out how deep and stinky the swamp is.

Wait I thought he drained the swamp? I thought he was the man to take care of this stuff, I thought he was the one who was gonna GET IT DONE.....

I see the comprising as an attempt to get something done.

Wait didnt his massive base elect him because he was brave and unflinching and wouldnt compromise and would make sure it would get done?


Looks like Trump supporters flip flop just as much as he does.........honestly its hilarious to see both of them flounder....

Sadly it just means the country is stuck with another talking head, and this one is more of a dunce than the others...

We had the opportunity to really elect someone good this time with all we had to choose from and ONCE AGAIN, the ignorant 1 issue voter chose Trump over all the other candidates......

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Unfortunately most partisan Americans only care about winning or losing the elections.

It's like sports to them. They don't care about what gets done or what doesn't get done, because if they did, they'd notice both sides aren't really different. The same things happen, the same direction is taken, and while the campaign donors cash in from their investment, we are footed the bill for all the bloated spending.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

We should let progressives do what they want so they destroy themselves with their insane policies.

a reply to: ksiezyc

Or they could slip it through with the current puppet? You know, the one who's wedding the Clinton's attended.

I love how Trump supporters are incapable of believing and actor may not be telling the truth all the time.

If 100 days didn't prove it, than surely the remainder of his presidency won't convince them.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I disagree with letting them have their agenda unopposed because too many Americans will be hurt by them. But I'm all for their voters opting into GOP programs or opting out of the programs they claim to hate. If their voters don't want to use govt programs, then they shouldn't use them. If their voters want all markets deregulated and want unregulated products, then they should be free to buy unregulated stuff.

But don't think for a second that voters will hold them accountable for their screwups. As I've mentioned in other threads, the GOP controls most State governorships and State legislatures. And now, they control both chambers of Congress, the Presidency, and have the majority on the Supreme Court. But that still doesn't stop the GOP from deflecting responsibility for their own inability to "fix" the problems in their jurisdictions. They'll continue to scapegoat every other segment of America, even when those segments literally hold no power. And that scapegoating will continue to work because their voters don't really care about "fixing" that stuff; they just want to remain in power.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

There is no singular GOP anymore. Just a bunch of factions that fight each other and accomplish zero.

The door is wide open for Democrats in 2018, and Republicans are rolling out the red carpet for them as we speak.

The dems are going to have to repair the ACA and the Republicans know it; they've always known it. I just hope they won't let their (false) pride, and knowing they must ask for help interfere with doing what's right/best for the country.

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Quit watching CNN.

You lost, time to be quiet.

There's the fascist attitude of the average Trump supporter. They constantly whine about how the left wants to stop their Free Speech while they deny others their rights.

a reply to: angeldoll

How are Democrats going to fix it when Republicans control both chambers of Congress and the Presidency? Republicans won all of those elections precisely because they said they'd repeal the ACA & fix the healthcare situation. And now, they can pass any legislation they want assuming they really want to pass it.

Besides, if people think the ACA is so bad, why would they want the Democrats to have a hand in fixing it in the first place? If you were my doctor and you botched a surgery on me, I'm not going back to you lol. I'm seeing if I have a legal led to stand on for malpractice while searching for a competent doctor to fix it.

ETA: You're basically saying that even when the GOP has power, they're too incompetent to do any good with it.

a reply to: carewemust

First the GOP will increase the deficit when they pass the tax cuts, cough, I mean reform. Rolling out the carpet for democrats so the republicans can cry but the deficit is too high.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: angeldoll

How are Democrats going to fix it when Republicans control both chambers of Congress and the Presidency? Republicans won all of those elections precisely because they said they'd repeal the ACA & fix the healthcare situation. And now, they can pass any legislation they want assuming they really want to pass it.

Besides, if people think the ACA is so bad, why would they want the Democrats to have a hand in fixing it in the first place? If you were my doctor and you botched a surgery on me, I'm not going back to you lol. I'm seeing if I have a legal led to stand on for malpractice while searching for a competent doctor to fix it.

ETA: You're basically saying that even when the GOP has power, they're too incompetent to do any good with it.

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. Have a nice day.

a reply to: angeldoll

Tone doesn't convey well in text. It looks/looked like you were trying to shift responsibility to the Dems even though the Repubs control everything. Hence my response. (I'm actually having an amazing day, too. So thanks for the suggestion.)

Trump has actually had a much more productive and successful "First 100 Days" than failed dimwit Obama.

Apart from keeping the truly vile life-long defender and enabler of a proven serial sexual predator who's always one step ahead of being indicted for something or other out of the White House, Trump has done quite a bit in the last 3 months.

Rolling back as much of the truly awful Obama regulatory structure relating to energy production and climate change for starters.

Gorsuch, of course.

Trump signed twice as much legislation and twice as many EO's as Obama did in his first 100.

As of this moment a repeal of the jobs-killing leftist boondoggle "Obamacare" is in the pipeline, as is massive tax reform.

I would like to see some more movement on The Wall, but all in due time.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Quit watching CNN.

You lost, time to be quiet.

There's the fascist attitude of the average Trump supporter. They constantly whine about how the left wants to stop their Free Speech while they deny others their rights.

We whine but at least were not out Rioting destroying property and burning the Flag while waving the Mexican Flag.