White Nationalist Sues Trump for Inciting Him To Beat Up Protesters.

Heimbach has been trying to set up racist hate groups ever since and back in March of last year he took credit for helping shove a black protester at a Trump rally in Kentucky. Then this month three of the protestors, high school student Henry Brousseau, 17, activist Molly Shah, 36, and college student Kashiya Nwanguma, 21 sued Trump for inciting supporters to attack them at the event. Federal Judge David J. Hale thought the plaintiffs had a plausible argument that Trump had done just that. And that all leads us to yesterday’s glorious moment when attacker Heimbach turned around and countersued Trump (!!!), claiming that the now-President had incited him to violence against the protestors. Now, to be clear, Heimbach still says the attack was awesome and that Trump is awesome too. Actually, technically, in a narrow legal sense, he denies “physically assaulting” them. But in general giving the protestors the boot was awesome. He just thinks that since Trump told him to do it that he should assume financial responsibility for any judgment against Heimbach, either Trump should or the the protesters themselves would.
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kilk here don't why I am having problems posting this vid.

Tried to find a vid clip with as little commentary as possible this was the best I could do.
Ok so here we have this guy, that's the dude in the red Trump hat, saying he acted in accordance with Trump's orders, clearly Trump is telling the crowd to get her outta there, but is he actually responsible for their actions?? remember this is candidate Trump not president Trump, and I am not certain out side of being in the military a president can make you do anything, so good folks at ATS do Mr scumbag supremacist have a case against Trump the president..pls put on your lawyers cap.

a reply to: Spider879

In your opinion; do you think he was telling the crowd or his staff to remove her?

Whomever put their hands on another (can't see vid, it's broken atm) did so out of their own volition and should face the consequences themselves, if any.

a reply to: Spider879

Sounds like a poorly coordinated publicity stunt.

All he did was say ''get out''. He was instructing her if anything.

Guy is representing himself. Lol

a reply to: Spider879

ooooohhh. you just gave me an idea.

idreamofme vs Donald trump

sueing for false advertisement.

I can at least get a settlement hopefully

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Spider879

In your opinion; do you think he was telling the crowd or his staff to remove her?

Whomever put their hands on another (can't see vid, it's broken atm) did so out of their own volition and should face the consequences themselves, if any.

That could go either way, it seemed to be very generalized, he did not say security get her out!

a reply to: Spider879

Ah, you fixed the vid.

I've seen a few where he has said things to the effect of "get out" or "get them out of here" as it pertains to people disrupting the event or looking for some sort of publicity or anti-message of sorts. Common sense would tell me that he was speaking to his security staff even though, no, he didn't call on them specifically. If I were to attend such an event, it would not be my responsibility nor will to take it upon myself to do so. As a member of the general public (civilian) I would also be subject to any laws I break as would the person there in your video.

As an aside, I've had much worse in a mosh-pit!

a reply to: JinMI

As a member of the general public (civilian) I would also be subject to any laws I break as would the person there in your video.

You'd be ok. It's basically a citizen's arrest for disturbing the peace. Perfectly legal.

a reply to: JinMI

I agree.It makes me sick how people are always looking for a cop-out or scapegoat.Always wanting excuses for their own actions.Pathetic.

id have to see what specific charge he is hit with.

In a court of law, he has to prove intent. If he proves Trump wanted to have those protestors removed with violence, he might have a case.

On the flip side, Trump has to say "I didnt know they would get violent, I just wanted them out because they disrupted the rally."

Watchin this case, thanks for the update bruh.

a reply to: Spider879

It's like bringing a lawsuit against McDonalds for being fat. He's looking for an excuse.

An honest and matter of fact judge might just say to him "If I tell you to jump off a pier at the beach into cold water would you do it"? So he could just make a fool out of himself even more trying to sue Trump.. I can't see anyone winning a case like this.. It's frivolous and semi stupid.

such a messed up world we live in where nobody wants to take responsibility for their own decisions and their own actions.

Have any of you read the filing ?

Well, I have. And in one way its pure BS, in another it is a brilliant move by his defense attorney.

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Buck

There's a old saying that goes back to the days of Daniel Webster " What ever the judge will allow ".

a reply to: Spider879
The headline of the article (and, by extension, the thread) should actually read: "Nationalist Snowflake Sues Trump for Own Choice of Action"

Snowflakes who are allergic to personal responsibility are on all sides of the political spectrum, unfortunately.

Now, there are such things in the legal world as inciting violence or the like, but without knowing the exact words that were spoken by Trump, it's impossible to say if he was inciting/advocating violence, talking to the crowd, or talking to security who existed in such a rally for the specific reason of things like escorting unruly people out of the area.

There is not enough to go on in your OP to have an intelligent legal discussion, but from what you've posted--and only from the information that you posted--I think that the guy suing Trump because of his choice to assault someone at a Trump rally is about as frivolous as it gets.

originally posted by: Tardacus
such a messed up world we live in where nobody wants to take responsibility for their own decisions and their own actions.

Sadly, that seems to be by design. It's as if society is maturing in reverse these days--kids getting suspended/expelled from school for standing up for themselves against bullies, being taught to not think for themselves, losing the ability to use critical thinking, etc. Then, by the time that they are in college, their being allowed safe spaces and being told that they're victims of everything under the sun.

Victimhood is a poison to the human mind, but that's what most of our contemporary youth are being spoon fed by many facets of society.

strange how everyone, in the name of trump, was praising the mentalist when he struck the protester who was simply standing/walking ....

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Ok understood, but could the spirit of what Trump the candidate said vs the action taken by Mr snow flake supremacist make any legal argument. after all I have often heard of something called the spirit of the law or something like that.

Couldn't Trump just declare white nationalist a protected group? Why is he allowing the evil liberuls and immigrants and brown peoples and non-christians to bully these fine folk?

Well Trump did say during the campaign he'd pay for the lawsuits.


Looks like one POS was actually listening to him.