Trump reverses course in 24 hours from Nato to China to Fed

a reply to: gortex

In one sense the Tweet you shared is ridiculous, in another sense it is brilliant. I think his tactics are extremely unusual and lead a lot of detractors to assume they are therefore ineffectual. I'm not certain that is the case. History will tell. It is certainly too early to for me to judge whether he is or isn't in over his head. For those around him, for the most part, they a part of the elite establishment and I don't think they are out of their depth. They know exactly what they are doing. I'm really not certain it is what is best for we citizens however.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You're definitely right on that.

What's happening now is no different than the last sixteen years.

But I was kinda hoping things wouldn't stay the same.

While I won't feed the doom porn party, I'm a little ticked. But I'm used to this so I'll get over it.

a reply to: Words

AKA Bovine excrement or manure.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Any one could say that about any president before hand and be right.

Remember Obama?

I do. Obama was FAR more honest than Trump ever was. This despite "You can keep your insurance" and other notable gems.

Obama said he'd decrease our military projection.

He accomplished that by increasing defense spending to the highest levels since WWII, bombed seven countries, five of which we weren't at war with.

Unprecedented drone strikes.

He said he'd reform the patriot act, he did so by increasing surveillance to levels that made Germany look like a privacy friendly state (WWII).

In the interest of time I'll stop there.

Obama wasn't more honest, he was better at lying because people liked him (for God knows why, oh wait he was pleasant, great.)

Sorry, I'm not partisan so forgive me for not being nestaglic of puppets.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: DBCowboy

You should ask the hundreds of people killed in drone strikes how "appeased" they were.

Where was your outrage over the innocent people killed by drone strikes under Obama?

I refer to your previous post to this one I am replying to!

Fake outrage?

My outrage? I'm not sure I experienced outrage over the drone strikes they've been going on so long. Sadness over innocent people who died, yes, quite often. A strident belief that we should keep our nose out of matters that don't concern us, yes.

However, arguably, many of these strikes were "legal" as the governments of the countries had either requested or permitted our actions or under the Authorization for the use of Military Force Against Terrorists or "AUMF" which was made law on 14 September 2001, to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against responsible for the 9/11 attacks or other organizations planning terrorist attacks on the US or our interests.

I.e. Approved by Congress.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Virtually EVERYTHING his Adminsitration has done, to date, is either right-wing extremism, a total 180 from previous positions and/or promises or has been a blatant bumbling failure.

If what he has done is considered right-wing extremism, I would hate to see what it was like before.

originally posted by: Words
a reply to: Gryphon66

Virtually EVERYTHING his Adminsitration has done, to date, is either right-wing extremism, a total 180 from previous positions and/or promises or has been a blatant bumbling failure.

If what he has done is considered right-wing extremism, I would hate to see what it was like before.

That's one of three options I tossed out, but yes, most of the semi-effective EOs he's made are nothing more than kowtowing to the most extreme elements of the American right-wing ... EOs taking away Trans* kids bathroom rights, trying to defund Plannted Parenthood, the stupid cut two regulations for any one put in place, gutting the EPA, passively destroying the Departments of Energy and Education with the INCOMPETENT fools he appointed as Secretaries, etc. etc.

Here's a list of his EOs, if you'd like to review them: Trump Executive Orders

a reply to: Gryphon66

I think it's a good idea, personally. All that stuff is left-wing extremism.

I am tired of all this winning.

I'm not sure how much Trump is at the helm of the ship anymore. Jared and Ivanka now have sway over the old man.



Ivanka seems to have been behind the "beautiful babys" fiascio.


www.bbc.com...

Alex Jones has been having a really hard time justifying his almost blind support and hero worship of Trump especially since the Syrian bombing.

I have been tweet storming AJ MERCILESSLY about his unwillingness to speak the truth about the troubling things Trump is doing. He keeps coming back with the refrain "but hes overdelivering domestically" perhaps not realizing that the NWO, Globalists, the "elite" and what not, can MORE THAN AFFORD to give American ALL the most important things Trump promised his supporters while on the campaign trail

I kid you not...here is a short list of things Trump promised that wouldnt hurt the global elite in the SLIGHTEST if Trump gets them done.

-border wall
-immigration control
-coal
-jobs
-tax reform
-healthcare reform


what did i miss? werent those the most important DOMESTIC policy issues that most his supporters voted on? Does anyone really think most of Trumps supporters spent any time in their normal day sweating over international relations, foreign trade deals, or NATO? cuz i personally dont think so.

I think most Trump supporters have a top 3 or top 5 core issues they voted for Trump on and of those core issues contained in the list above so far Trump hasnt reversed course on any of them (that i have seen)

so, the issues that Trump HAS changed course on all seem to be those issues that are not the bread and butter issues most of his supporters voted on.

what do you all think?

a reply to: TobyFlenderson

LOOK AWAY...

PRETEND IT IS NOT HAPPENING...

PROTECT YOUR WORLDVIEW AT ALL COSTS...

a reply to: Indigo5

Or we could pretend like this is the first time someone lied about their platform to pander votes.

originally posted by: Words
a reply to: Gryphon66

I think it's a good idea, personally. All that stuff is left-wing extremism.

Define "stuff" ...

Define "left-wing extremism."

a reply to: tribal

I don't know why most people voted for Trump. For me, one of the biggest points was getting us out of these globalist trade deals. He did get us out of the Asian deal, sort of. Of the list you put I think several of those items go against the globalist agenda, but any change in those positions could be easily turned around in the future. Other than the jobs issue, I don't see how Trump has delivered on the other issues you listed. It's still early, but I have to say I don't agree with AJ that he's delivered domestically at all.

May 25, 2017

While at the NATO meeting in Brussels today, Trump verbally "spanked" the leaders of the nations who are paying their fair share for their country's defense.

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