PROPOSAL: Refugees can become paid volunteers in European Foreign Legion?

Just an idea from me, European Foreign Legion must have the French Foreign Legion as template:

-alliance only to the legion not to Europe
-for African climate (= wars) refugees, European migrants and Islamic refugees from war zones alike
-first inline for wars anywhere in the world, if there are European interests involved
-important is thats its voluntary and well paid (if you go up in the ranks)
-if lets say 20% of the refugees becomes legionair then this will stabilize the rest of the refugees community in Europe
-legionairs have a career a future, this gives also hope for the other refugees
-Severe selection and hazing, not everyone is European Foreign Legion material, it must be considered a macho honor
-must be tough MFs, mean lean fighting machines
-language English

You want to give them weapons?!

Nevermind about organizing them!

a reply to: galien8

So what purpose do they serve? As in who and for what purpose.

The French Legion were/are not a nice bunch, their ranks were filled with criminals and people who enjoyed killing.

Ya know, setting up a functional army that isn't filled with dysfunctionals isn't easy, it takes time and even then what amounts to brainwashing to create a good soldier can break down and they turn human again.

We've got plenty of names for that phenomena but I'll call it being human... Because we don't inheritably wish to kill. You can be as badass as you like, fact is it takes a certain calibre to switch off and even then it can come back to haunt you, the others are certified psychopaths and they make poor soldiers or the best depending on who you ask... Which comes back to my original query.

What does Europe need a foreign legion for?

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

You want to give them weapons?!

So!? The do that too in the French Legion seem to have it under control

a reply to: burgerbuddy

I'm sure the majority just want their livelihood back with an inch of relative safety.

But I already know your brainwashed opinion, they all want to chop my noggin off, shoot my dog and blow up my house.

And I'll answer with the same line... People don't naturally want to kill people. They want food, love and a livelihood. That's somewhat difficult with Russian tanks or Tomahawks raining down and some corporation wanting an oil pipe popping through your farm.

originally posted by: RAY1990

What does Europe need a foreign legion for?

to keep the refugees community busy and occupied, moreover maybe we get some good soldiers and a good army too, to control the fundamentalists in the Middle East, that will keep coming long time after ISIS is defeated, we will perhaps never defeat the mentality

originally posted by: galien8

originally posted by: RAY1990

What does Europe need a foreign legion for?

to keep the refugees community busy and occupied, moreover maybe we get some good soldiers and a good army too, to control the fundamentalists in the Middle East, that will keep coming long time after ISIS is defeated, we will perhaps never defeat the mentality

You will never defeat the mentality so long as you keep dropping bombs on people as your solution. You can kill terrorists with guns, but you need education to kill terrorism, period, to paraphrase a wise woman from said conflicted regions.

ISIS and terrorism will never be defeated if your only mentality as a military one of kill, bomb, destroy.

originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

ISIS and terrorism will never be defeated if your only mentality as a military one of kill, bomb, destroy.

we got to strike back as long as we have the muscle :-|

We already have such mercinaries its called green on blue

originally posted by: khnum

We already have such mercinaries its called green on blue

No kidding!? you mean UN blue?

a reply to: galien8

The ideology only ever gets supported due to our foreign policies and dictatorships. When you've lost everything ISIS begins to look appealing, we'll always have psychopaths and we'll fight those on every corner.

I'd much prefer to utilize them within the construction industry, give em a decent cut of the money allocated to nations in disrepair and they'll never seek fairer grasslands to graze upon.

We could take ISIS out tomorrow, or any atrocious organization. We don't. Chile in the 1970's Mexico 5 years ago, Serbia, Ireland, Malaysia... The list goes on, we don't solve those problems when we can get rich from them.

a reply to: galien8

No it means when someone we are training goes postal and kills his trainers.

originally posted by: galien8

originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

ISIS and terrorism will never be defeated if your only mentality as a military one of kill, bomb, destroy.

we got to strike back as long as we have the muscle :-|

An eye for an eye serves nobody but the macabre loving fetishists that seem to be our leaders.

a reply to: galien8

Why would Africans be loyal to europeans, seems illogical in every dimension of its being.
Even the european community is split amongst itself, why would Africans want to join a childrens circus

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: galien8

No it means when someone we are training goes postal and kills his trainers.

Yeah, we have a long list of our own soldiers doing that too.

a reply to: galien8

I appreciate anybody who thinks through this, and tries to find a solution. But a military response is not ever going to get rid of IS, and we need to face the facts that we need safe zones in Syria. We would have to have boots on the ground to guard the areas, and negotiate a no-fly zone.

The economic refugees should run along back where they came from (they might need some assistance in leaving, in case they've gotten a little bit too comfy.)

I also wish we would threaten S.A. with something or other or kick them out of UN, if they continue to disallow refugees asylum in their fancy tented city. It's monstrous they won't allow it.

a reply to: galien8

There are and have been foreign legions all over Europe.

They make terrible soldiers I hear.

Also, ME peoples need to learn new skill sets.

a reply to: galien8

Nah.

a reply to: galien8

They come to welfare states and you think they want to work or even sacrifice their lives?

a reply to: Raggedyman

Are you being serious? I'll just leave this to remind you that more than 1 million African troops fought for the European colonial powers during WW2.

The Africans who fought in WWII

In fact, this touches on one of the great criticisms of European anti-immigration policies towards Africans and Asians. In many instances, the literal grandchildren of the Nazis have an easier time being accepted into other European countries than the literal grandchildren of the Africans & Asians who helped fight the Nazis. And that doesn't include the modern alliances and organizations where Europeans and Africans work together, like the British Commonwealth of Nations (which includes something like 18 African nations).

The point I'm making is that their loyalty has been there in some form or another for many decades. The real question is why don't you see that or acknowledge it?