United States-Russia-Syria

a reply to: JinMI

That's the thing.

We can't form an opinion because we don't have the facts.

There's plenty of conjecture. But facts are as scarce as a virgin in Vegas.

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: TarzanBeta

Yeah, no. It's not brilliant, especially when accusing Russia of being complicit alongside Assad's government. Why in sam hell would another country risk EVERYTHING to help "fool" people into doubting the accusations? Ain't enough money and goods on the planet to make risking permanently ruining your country to help a buddy worthwhile.

Friend. You're not seeing it.

Nothing of what you say is happening, neither will it happen.

You're deciding, like everyone else, upon a hypothetical.

Look at the majority view. Now consider that through the lens that Assad is responsible.

Do you see it yet?

There is something else to consider, yes 59 tomahawk missiles, yet the base has been used today by Assad's forces.
This obviously means it was quite intact, moreover, any real blow would have really been in favor of ISIS, so is ISIS considered less bad then Assad? even after the list of terror attacks in Northern Europe?

Lets wait what the response of Russia will be, they have been hit hard and blamed by the US, first with this strike, second in the UN today where Nikki Haley laid bare the failure on the Russian side to make sure Assad has no chemical weapons anymore.
Also it was quite clear that this indeed has been a gas attack, simply because there was no gastank to be hit in the area and the projectile left a hole in the road where it hit the ground.

a reply to: JinMI

There is another narrative emerging that puts a win win win US/Russia/Syria in this missile launch . Russia ends up with a closed sky to other jets (Israel) included .I don't think there were chemical weapons at the air base because people were walking around without protective gear on after the bombing . Russia got prior notice and pulled men and machines out . I seen one report that said the few planes that were destroyed were under repair . The runways are fine .Some of the bunkers got damaged and some of the barracks . I am also thinking that no one got killed .

So the left can drop the Trump/Putin love affair meme . The war hawks cant say Trump is as big a wimp as Obama . There will be the cold shoulder in play wink wink . Every one can concentrate on getting rid of ISIS and alciada . Turkey is going to be kept on the side lines ....

a reply to: TarzanBeta

I think the opinion was based on what was going(should) to happen until this event happened.

Are you saying Assads move (given that is the actuality of what happened) was the right tactic?

Now that Trump is on the Team, THE CIA DEEP STATE TEAM, CNN won’t say a bad word about him.

They lie that the first gas attack was Syria even though ALL the proof is that it wasn’t Syria.


We are in the dark ages

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
Do you see it yet?

No. Care to be a little more forthcoming with a theory and a lot less cryptic?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JinMI

That's the thing.

We can't form an opinion because we don't have the facts.

There's plenty of conjecture. But facts are as scares as a virgin in Vegas.

Your opinion has been formed already, they've bombed them without an investigation. Were suppose to believe these NAZIS on faith even though they've lied to us thousands of times.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Jonjonj

The truth on their side? Sure just like they had the truth on their side in the Iraq war.

The only thing they have on their side is might...


So did Hitler for a while!

Chemical attack on civilians...response?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JinMI

That's the thing.

We can't form an opinion because we don't have the facts.

There's plenty of conjecture. But facts are as scares as a virgin in Vegas.

That's a fact!

Such strange times.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: TarzanBeta

I think the opinion was based on what was going(should) to happen until this event happened.

Are you saying Assads move (given that is the actuality of what happened) was the right tactic?

From his point of view, being objective instead of being a heartful human being, absolutely.

a reply to: JinMI

I think it's still too early to come to any conclusion, given all the conflicting information, but honestly it looks like a false flag done by Trump himself. I guess we can only hope that he knows a lot more than he's telling us and this is a calculated chess move. Either that or the alternative is, we are all ##.

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JinMI

That's the thing.

We can't form an opinion because we don't have the facts.

There's plenty of conjecture. But facts are as scares as a virgin in Vegas.

Your opinion has been formed already, they've bombed them without an investigation. Were suppose to believe these NAZIS on faith even though they've lied to us thousands of times.

Really.

What's my opinion?

Keep in mind I have been consistent, and that I voted for Trump.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
Do you see it yet?

No. Care to be a little more forthcoming with a theory and a lot less cryptic?

I'm not being cryptic really.

But behold how so few are willing to entertain that Assad is responsible. If Assad is responsible, then that means he is getting away with murder - literally. The results? Pitting former Trump supporters against Trump and pitting Putin against Trump, therefore improving his power through initiative.

Very easy to see the value of such a tactic.

a reply to: earthling42

Great addition!!

I could almost swear that the narrative would have you believe that Assad IS ISIS!

a reply to: Jonjonj

The first one WAS NOT SYRIA.

That's why Obama didn't want to bomb.

This one doesn't make sense that Russia and Syria would use chemical weapons; their winning the war.

Anyway, they should have a UN investigation and be sure that this wasn't one of those EVIL wicked Al Qaeda groups WHO DO HAVE Chemical weapons...

Also the US is going on the old 911 law to bomb Syria. Doubtfully that is lawful.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
Do you see it yet?

No. Care to be a little more forthcoming with a theory and a lot less cryptic?

I'm not being cryptic really.

But behold how so few are willing to entertain that Assad is responsible. If Assad is responsible, then that means he is getting away with murder - literally. The results? Pitting former Trump supporters against Trump and pitting Putin against Trump, therefore improving his power through initiative.

Very easy to see the value of such a tactic.

I would be willing to entertain that theory if there was a shred of hard & verifiable evidence. Thus far, there's more hard evidence to show ISIS has CWs than Assad. That is not hyperbole, either.

a reply to: TarzanBeta

OK, I'll follow you down that rabbit hole for a few.

What would Assad and in effect Russia gain by using CM against those people. Let's even go further and assume they were not the intended target but perhaps Al-qaida assailants.

Do think he could have kept it a secret from the international community?
Is there any instance were he and in effect Russia can get away with those types of war crimes?

I see what your saying, it's just not adding up to me.

a reply to: Nyiah

I don't have hard evidence.

But I do have my experience, intuition, and strategic mindset on my side to make me stay the judgement so many are quick to deal.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: TarzanBeta

OK, I'll follow you down that rabbit hole for a few.

What would Assad and in effect Russia gain by using CM against those people. Let's even go further and assume they were not the intended target but perhaps Al-qaida assailants.

Do think he could have kept it a secret from the international community?
Is there any instance were he and in effect Russia can get away with those types of war crimes?

I see what your saying, it's just not adding up to me.

Exactly what the majority narrative is right now is exactly what he would have in mind.

This could be used as a victim card during the talks tomorrow.