Tunisia shuts nightclub over call to prayer remix

a reply to: TarzanBeta

Can you imagine a Christian getting angry over a hymnal remix?

Of course some Christians and even non-Christians are incensed by such irreverent actions. But in America the artist gets awards.

The Holy Virgin Mary (1996), Chris Ofili – The Holy Virgin Mary (1996), Chris Ofili Chris Ofili's

"The Holy Virgin Mary," a Black Madonna surrounded by cut-outs from pornographic magazines and elephant dung, was met with similar outrage, including the public scorn of former mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani and former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, when it won the 1998 Turner Prize

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The Piss Christ

Piss Christ is a photograph of a plastic crucifix submerged in urine. (The crucifix was not “in a jar of urine,” as it has often been described, but in a large Plexiglas tank.) The photograph was part of a selection of works I submitted for a competition called Awards in the Visual Arts, organized by the Southeastern Center for Contemporary Art, based in Winston-Salem, NC. Ten artists from ten different parts of the country were selected for the award.

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originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

I have a fence or nothing goes on in my backyard.

Anti Muslim???
I perish the thought of mocking the prophet and his beloved Aisha, mother of all believers...
Ok, sure Aisha was 6 when mohamed(53) married her but [insert moral relativist liberal argument here]...

-Chris

Ah, a hypocrite. That's fine, as long as you acknowledge it.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Christosterone

Progress is apt to happen through and its not like morality and religion go hand in hand however much it may claim to profess so. And that any religion not just the Muslim faith.

I am a moralist.
Not because some magic being in the sky ordains it but because morality is inherent to the homo sapien sapien genome.
Morality is timeless...

Religion is an extension of morality...not the other way around...
Your conclusion improperly juxtaposes the cause-effect...

-Chris

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

Talking is one thing. Executing someone for deciding that they would rather be in another religion is something else. The 7th century attitudes need to change; a reformation is needed. The world's Mullahs have to get together [fat chance] and come up with non-fatal tenets of the religion. "Insulting the Prophet/Islam" is hardly a crime that deserves the death penalty. I don't know if it is insecurity or inbred fanaticism. Death for an image of Mohammed? Why must the world bend to this demand?
As we look at other religions, none have these rules but Islam.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

I have a fence or nothing goes on in my backyard.

Anti Muslim???
I perish the thought of mocking the prophet and his beloved Aisha, mother of all believers...
Ok, sure Aisha was 6 when mohamed(53) married her but [insert moral relativist liberal argument here]...

-Chris

Ah, a hypocrite. That's fine, as long as you acknowledge it.

As I said, I am a moralist and it is, therefore, impossible for me to be a hypocrite...
My ethos forbids its as it is anathema to my being...

As an aside, let's do some vocabulary, shall we?

cult
kəlt/
noun
1) a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2) a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.

-Chris

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

Talking is one thing. Executing someone for deciding that they would rather be in another religion is something else. The 7th century attitudes need to change; a reformation is needed. The world's Mullahs have to get together [fat chance] and come up with non-fatal tenets of the religion. "Insulting the Prophet/Islam" is hardly a crime that deserves the death penalty. I don't know if it is insecurity or inbred fanaticism. Death for an image of Mohammed? Why must the world bend to this demand?
As we look at other religions, none have these rules but Islam.

Who's suggested executing the DJ's who did the dance mix? Anyone? That's the purpose of this thread. Plenty on here were talking about causing serious harm to someone they saw burning the American flag - if they seriously would have? I doubt it, they are keyboard warriors on ATS, but that's not the point. The were EXTREMELY upset at something that would attack their culture, but seem to mock those who are upset when something is perceived - rightly or wrongly - to attack theirs.

a reply to: Christosterone

Religion is an extension of control and runs counter productive to freedom of speech and expression.

Essentially do i say/command or some anthropomorphised deity with spank you for all eternity in the next life just does not cut the mustard any longer.

Point of fact belief in any such deity considering what he has in store for his apparently beloved creations is sheer stupidity, ether that or God/Allah/Yewah is a not the person he claims to be.

My conclusions are based on facts where as religion is based in man made bull crap, the cause and effect are rather apparent, self evident really.

a reply to: Christosterone

Buddy everyone of us is hypocritical at one time or another, its kind of hard to avoid in the world today.

Tell you whats really hypocritical and laced with inaccuracy, organised religious practice.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

Talking is one thing. Executing someone for deciding that they would rather be in another religion is something else. The 7th century attitudes need to change; a reformation is needed. The world's Mullahs have to get together [fat chance] and come up with non-fatal tenets of the religion. "Insulting the Prophet/Islam" is hardly a crime that deserves the death penalty. I don't know if it is insecurity or inbred fanaticism. Death for an image of Mohammed? Why must the world bend to this demand?
As we look at other religions, none have these rules but Islam.

Who's suggested executing the DJ's who did the dance mix? Anyone? That's the purpose of this thread. Plenty on here were talking about causing serious harm to someone they saw burning the American flag - if they seriously would have? I doubt it, they are keyboard warriors on ATS, but that's not the point. The were EXTREMELY upset at something that would attack their culture, but seem to mock those who are upset when something is perceived - rightly or wrongly - to attack theirs.

I am exposing Islam for the barbaric religion it is. The fact that the club was shut down for a remix is a symptom of what is wrong with Islam. Leaving Islam is cause for a death sentence. Homosexuality is cause for a death sentence. Drawing a picture of Mohammed is cause for a death sentence. Islam is the most intolerant religion on earth and needs to change.

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

Talking is one thing. Executing someone for deciding that they would rather be in another religion is something else. The 7th century attitudes need to change; a reformation is needed. The world's Mullahs have to get together [fat chance] and come up with non-fatal tenets of the religion. "Insulting the Prophet/Islam" is hardly a crime that deserves the death penalty. I don't know if it is insecurity or inbred fanaticism. Death for an image of Mohammed? Why must the world bend to this demand?
As we look at other religions, none have these rules but Islam.

Who's suggested executing the DJ's who did the dance mix? Anyone? That's the purpose of this thread. Plenty on here were talking about causing serious harm to someone they saw burning the American flag - if they seriously would have? I doubt it, they are keyboard warriors on ATS, but that's not the point. The were EXTREMELY upset at something that would attack their culture, but seem to mock those who are upset when something is perceived - rightly or wrongly - to attack theirs.

I am exposing Islam for the barbaric religion it is. The fact that the club was shut down for a remix is a symptom of what is wrong with Islam. Leaving Islam is cause for a death sentence. Homosexuality is cause for a death sentence. Drawing a picture of Mohammed is cause for a death sentence. Islam is the most intolerant religion on earth and needs to change.

Unfortunately being gay in Christian Africa is really not much better, and if you jump off that high horse it was only 4 or 5 decades ago when your life would have been ruined by you coming out in most of the western world. For Christian Africa...........

fpif.org...

I'm not here to defend one thing or another, it's the hypocrisy that I am against.

originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

I have a fence or nothing goes on in my backyard.

Anti Muslim???
I perish the thought of mocking the prophet and his beloved Aisha, mother of all believers...
Ok, sure Aisha was 6 when mohamed(53) married her but [insert moral relativist liberal argument here]...

-Chris

Ah, a hypocrite. That's fine, as long as you acknowledge it.

As I said, I am a moralist and it is, therefore, impossible for me to be a hypocrite...
My ethos forbids its as it is anathema to my being...

As an aside, let's do some vocabulary, shall we?

cult
kəlt/
noun
1) a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2) a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.

-Chris

What a pathetic statement. Your morals are based on what you think is right in your situation and judge others based on those morals in other situations that have absolutely zero in common with your own. That kind of makes you the biggest hypocrite of all.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Christosterone

And yet when someone on ATS said that on 'Vietnam veterans day' thousands would burn the American flag, many on ATS talked very candidly about what they would do to someone burning the flag in their presence, why do you judge one group of people for doing something socially unacceptable to Americans against someone doing something equally socially unacceptable in their country?

Or or you just being anti Muslim because you want to be and ignoring what happens in your own backyard?

Talking is one thing. Executing someone for deciding that they would rather be in another religion is something else. The 7th century attitudes need to change; a reformation is needed. The world's Mullahs have to get together [fat chance] and come up with non-fatal tenets of the religion. "Insulting the Prophet/Islam" is hardly a crime that deserves the death penalty. I don't know if it is insecurity or inbred fanaticism. Death for an image of Mohammed? Why must the world bend to this demand?
As we look at other religions, none have these rules but Islam.

Who's suggested executing the DJ's who did the dance mix? Anyone? That's the purpose of this thread. Plenty on here were talking about causing serious harm to someone they saw burning the American flag - if they seriously would have? I doubt it, they are keyboard warriors on ATS, but that's not the point. The were EXTREMELY upset at something that would attack their culture, but seem to mock those who are upset when something is perceived - rightly or wrongly - to attack theirs.

I am exposing Islam for the barbaric religion it is. The fact that the club was shut down for a remix is a symptom of what is wrong with Islam. Leaving Islam is cause for a death sentence. Homosexuality is cause for a death sentence. Drawing a picture of Mohammed is cause for a death sentence. Islam is the most intolerant religion on earth and needs to change.

Unfortunately being gay in Christian Africa is really not much better, and if you jump off that high horse it was only 4 or 5 decades ago when your life would have been ruined by you coming out in most of the western world. For Christian Africa...........

fpif.org...

I'm not here to defend one thing or another, it's the hypocrisy that I am against.

Times have changed in the world but Islam is still trapped in the 7th century where it was death for innocuous actions. Yes, 6 or 7 decades ago homosexuals were punished in the Western world but they were not publically executed. We can argue about how Christian Africa really is. We can discuss albinos running for their lives and the duality of religions mixed with witch doctors. Boko Haram and "the religion of peace" probably does not reflect Islam, either.
Let us discuss the present. I understand that Islam takes exception to many activities but the harsh punishments handed down are inhuman. A woman raped is punished for being a victim and women are considered property. They must dress to hide themselves because the men cannot be expected to control themselves. Are the men helpless, mindless animals?
If I draw the prophet, regardless of my intent, I can be killed. Does this deserve the death penalty? If you are against hypocrisy, are you against the dual standards based on gender or social status?

Islam needs to come into the modern world.

Religions get serious about their make believe. Don't believe? Then... comes the "make" part, meaning force, and all sorts of brutality.

Ignorance can never lead to bliss.

a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

And when you don't do as they say or question the belief system religious types are not generally a happy bunny rabbit.

That's when words like heretic and blasphemer start being chucked around which generally never ends well.

It's a shame that some people can be so closed minded so as to have to resort to violence and hyperbole but as history has clearly illustrated throughout the ages that's what happens when people challenge or question the supposed will of God.

a reply to: andy06shake

If people have to take it into their own hands to uphold such things... So much for faith. Best if they were just honest and said it is a system of control and be done with it.

A new bouazizi-like case in Tunisia is putting the country at the verge of a new color revolution attempt by the EU.
Careful Euro#ers ... This time, they'll get nukes! This is not 2001, neither 2011.