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Internet Users To Buy Lawmakers Browsing History In Protest Of Bill

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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 09:42 AM
An internet campaign to purchase lawmakers browsing history has taken off to protest the passing of SJR34 which allows for internet providers to sell users browsing history.

Two fundraising campaigns have so far raised more than $215,000 to purchase and reveal lawmakers' browsing histories. Actor Misha Collins, the star of television show “Supernatural,” has raised more than $63,000 on his GoFundMe page. More than 3,000 people have donated to the page, which has a goal of $500 million.

Another activist from Tennessee has raised more than $152,000 from more than 9,800 people.

I hope this happens. I cant wait to see what some of these idiots have been searching.

Maxine Waters Googles: Did Putin invade Korea?

We should expand this to reporters as well. We can see if Don Lemon has been googling if a black hole can swallow an air plane.

Or how about Gary Johnson googling: What is Aleppo?

Though, some say this bill wouldnt necessaryily mean they will sell your data.

A bill on its way to President Trump’s desk would allow internet service providers (ISPs) to sell users’ data and Web browsing history. It has not taken effect, which means there is no growing history data yet to purchase.

A Washington Post reporter also wrote it would be possible to buy the data “in theory, but probably not in reality.”

A former enforcement bureau chief at the Federal Communications Commission told the newspaper that most internet service providers would cover up this information, under their privacy policies. If they did sell any individual's personal data in violation of those policies, a state attorney general could take the ISPs to court.

But I would assume after the law passes companies would amend their service agreements in order for them to be able to sell your data.


posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 09:45 AM
Now that's cool, I wonder if you can break it down as to Democrats or Republicans? I wonder if you can get it down to a certain person or does it just go down to a household network?

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 09:53 AM
a reply to: rickymouse

I don't know, I guess it would depend on how the ISP decides to sell the info. Maybe you have to buy it in bulk. Would they really allow you to buy specific peoples info?

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:02 AM
Brilliant idea, whats good for the goose is good for the gander as they say.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:27 AM
Unfortunately, you know that none of our politicians are googling terms like "ethics" or "honesty."

It would be nice to see what they ARE googling...but then again, when dealing with these disgusting people, do we really want to know? It might be worse than anyone could have fathomed...!

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 11:04 AM
a reply to: DustbowlDebutante

They probably are Googleizing it thinking "what is this thing ethics? (typing typing) what?! Screw that!"

Fricken dirtbags.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 12:01 PM
a reply to: FauxMulder

It's legislation like this that disgusts me. These representatives are sworn to uphold the constitution of the United States yet pass legislation that relinquishes privacy rights of it's citizens!

The Fifth Amendment protects against self-incrimination, which in turn protects the privacy of personal information. The Ninth Amendment says that the "enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage other rights retained by the people."

This is all directly influenced by corporate lobbying to help them target consumer's product preferences. Citizens are constantly losing their privacy rights in favor of self-serving corporate greed.

IMHO, these are some of the privacy rights that have been trampled upon by Corporate Marketers.

-It's legal for Telemarketers to bombard us with phone calls in the privacy of our homes. I'm on a no-call list and I still receive these calls! Consumers shouldn't have to register for this, it should be illegal to solicit on private phones, period!

-It's legal for satellite and cable companies to include disruptive commercials with their service. These satellite and cable companies receive advertising income for placing commercials for your paid service! Yet customers don't get a royalty for allowing these commercials to be broadcast into the privacy of their homes. Try placing a large private business ad for your private business in their retail space! You would be charged for the space or you would be denied!

-Tons of junk mail delivered to your private mail box. Try to solicit business in their private retail space. You either have to get the manager to approve it or they ask you to leave or be arrested for trespassing.

-Now we're bombarded with disruptive pop-up ads and automatic advertisement videos in the privacy of our homes and on our privately owned computers. Yet we pay for internet service, not for all the advertising that comes with it. Sure, it's probably written in the contracts for the service, but it should be illegal without consent of the consumer or the consumer getting some kind of royalty for allowing it to come into their homes.

Solicitation and advertisements should only be allowed in public spaces and in publically purchased magazines and newspapers.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 01:54 PM
Let me apologize in advance as I am still in shock, hence my thoughts may seem disjointed.

I pondered last night about how corporations are people.
Yet I wondered what would happen if I, a person, nabbed another person's browsing
history, or maybe everyone's browsing history.

Can a corporation go to jail?
Can a corporation be vulnerable as a person is vulnerable?

I read through the threads. I absorbed like poison how we do not expect privacy while staying
in a hotel room we pay for because we didn't supply the building and bed and so on ad nauseum.

Yes, I thought, these enablers need to be monitored around the clock.

Presently I am preparing my mind to learn, and never forget, every name which is
attached to this bill, starting with the authors and ending with the bastard hands that signed off on it. And I mean forever. Then the work begins, silently, in ways nothing mortal can
discern, but I have come to depend upon utterly.

This is representation?
I believe they have it all backwards, a real shame.

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edit on 30-3-2017 by TheWhiteKnight because: I had the part. The effing PART! Does my dick looks purple.

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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 01:56 PM
Might we see a law now that protects lawmakers history due to national security.

It would be fun to see one who voted yes explain why his privacy is more important then the average person.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 02:28 PM
I'd pay to see Hillary's browsing history but I'm not yet convinced she knows how to google.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 05:06 PM
Would be interesting to see how many politicians are browsing things they shouldn't, e.g. Child porn.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 06:31 PM
Good for this. Info should be leaked eventually too. Can't wait(not literally but they need to be exposed) to see the details of the congressman took the donations.
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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 08:18 PM
Wrong thread
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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 09:51 PM
There won't be any fingerprints. They will all have VPN firewalls in place.

I undersatnd the bloodsucking corporations are gathering data from all collar devices,
such as phones and mobile computers, but I imagine these hellbound slime politician traitors have kept their names off their mobile devices as well. I don't know anything about IT, so I would be guessing about having a proxy on anything mobile.

I cannot believe they are even allowed to collect data, let alone sell it.

There should be class action against internet service providers, with extreme prejudice.
That, and a nice riot.

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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:17 PM
It will be midget porn and offshore banking .

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:21 PM
It will fly, until the first high ranking politician gets snagged and embarassed by this and then they will cry foul and try to either get rid of said law or change it to protect themselves.

Personally I think all of such should be as a matter of public record anyways.

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:37 PM

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works

It's clear that no one actually seems to understand what is going on. You won't be able to call up an ISP and ask for a specific person's web browsing history. You won't be able to call or contact ANY company and do that either.

What the ISPs will be selling is aggregate data of users in specific areas. If you wanted to "buy congress's browsing history" all you'd get are "search trends for Washington DC" or something like that. Maybe a list of the top 10 websites or something. You wouldn't be able to find out who visits what sites.

The kind of data that ISPs want to sell is trends on specific geographical locations. What subscribers in certain neighborhoods are doing online. Are people in the rich neighborhood using more PS4's or Xbox Ones? It helps advertisers better target and know which places to target.

It was always this way until 2016. What just happened was merely a repeal of some new legislation. So, we're back to where we always were.

Good lord, use HTTPS Everywhere (browser plugin) that forces all your communication to/from websites to be encrypted at 128-bit. While not amazingly strong, it makes it time consuming to figure out what you're doing on various sites. Anyway, try sniffing packet data on a network sometime, HTTPS traffic is useless as it's all garbled.

It doesn't keep your ISP from knowing what websites you visited, but it does keep them from knowing what you were doing on those websites. I can tell if you go on Amazon by watching your packet data, but I won't be able to tell what you're looking at or buying on Amazon if you're using the HTTPS protocol. As I said, it's garbled packet data.

Also, using a different DNS server vs. the one your ISP wants to you use can help a little bit too. Not much, but its an easy change and can actually speed up your internet browsing. Use a PiHole (Raspberry Pi) as a DNS server with a blacklist for advertising domains. That'll also help things a bit.

Anyway, that's not my point -- my point is, this is nothing but a stupid publicity stunt by people who don't understand how this works.

Your actual day-to-day browsing information (what sites and what you did on those sites) IS NOT going to be sold by your ISP. Nothing tying your browsing history to you, personally, will be for sale.

That is why this is the dumbest thing ever. It's aggregate data, user statistic data. And while not awesome or ideal, it's not this doom-porn I seem to see everyone spouting. It was already this way until just recently anyway.

What IS actually concerning is that this another puzzle piece for advertisers. It will help build a profile on you. Even if the ISP can't give specific information about you, it can be added into the pot to help identify you.

Example time!

Facebook and other apps ask for your phone number, ever notice that? Grocery stores keep track of your shopping habbits with "club cards". Think about all the tiny bits of information you leave here and there at various businesses. All that information is sold/traded and compilled. It all gets added together along with your addresses, work address/phone ... your email, social media accounts ect.

When enough tiny bits of info that are meaningless on their own are combined, it creates a damn impressive profile on you.

There is a reason why Cambridge Analytica (who Trump's people hired and who were behind the pro-Brexit thing) can claim with confidence on their own website that they have "4,000 to 5,000 data points on 220 million Americans".

220 MILLION Americans? That's literally the entire adult population of the USA. And 4-5 THOUSAND data points? Those are the little tiny insignificant pieces I was talking about. They can use those to build a profile on you and what you will probably like and want to see/hear/buy. They can then customize the things you hear/see online. They can influence what the very fabric of reality you experience is like.

Let that sink in.

People now can know so much about you from tiny bits of information found here and there, collected and pasted together...enough information to influence how you shop and even view the world.

Anyway, as I said -- this isn't new, but people are now just finding out about it.

What out to worry the **** out of you more are the "audio beacons" hidden in TV/radio advertisements that apps on your smart phone can pick up on. Then, the app can report that you were near/heard certain TV/radio ads so many times per day. These audio beacons are in frequencies we can't hear but help advertisers know who is hearing their advertisements. Ever wonder why some Android apps ask for speaker permission? Speakers are microphones if inverted.

TLDR: Stupid publicity stunt, and apparently 99% of the population is running around without any idea of the real threats, thinking this is something that it isn't.
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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:40 PM
I agree. The only personal data that should be collected is that belonging to our representatives, any and all of 'em. They should immediately be removed from office if they try to hide it.

I knew we were doomed when I bought an ipod as a gift, and when it was opened there was the liver diseased face of paul hewson inside. Mister "We can do it! We can use the Chinese internet policing model to control the internet" This was his way of saying "I felt like I had some beanies, and I wanted some more". How can anyone stand the bastard.

He went into hiding for a couple years after that.

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posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:49 PM
These crowd funding things are nice thoughts, but they won't be able to buy any senator or congress people's browsing histories. People giving money to these things are getting scammed.
It won't work

posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 10:54 PM
As I said -- no data that personally identifies anyone will be sold by ISPs. It's aggregate data.

They didn't create new laws. They didn't change existing laws. They simply kept new laws that were going to take effect this year (passed in 2016) from taking effect.

It's status quo. They're just being allowed to do what they've always been allowed to do.

This is a very good article on what this actually means for us, regular folks.
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