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North Carolina Republican lawmakers said late on Wednesday they had reached a deal to repeal the state's controversial law prohibiting transgender people from using restrooms in accordance with their gender identities. The compromise, reached with Democratic Governor Roy Cooper and set to go before the legislature for a vote Thursday morning, would still ban local municipalities, schools and others from regulating bathroom access. It would also effectively forbid cities from offering their own job and restroom protections to vulnerable groups for nearly four years. “Compromise requires give and take from all sides, and we are pleased this proposal fully protects bathroom safety and privacy,” the state's top Republican lawmakers, Senate leader Phil Berger and House of Representatives Speaker Tim Moore, said in a statement released late Wednesday.
all 3 of them)
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: network dude
Yeah this had nothing to do with LGBT and everything to do with a misguided law that nobody asked for, nobody needed and hurt the state.
And why was all this done? Because the conservatives in the state decided they knew what was best for people.
all 3 of them)
So you mean to tell me the State Gov went through all this because they were afraid of 3 people raping children and molesting women in bathrooms?
Lol.
You just showed how silly this whole thing was with that comment.
~Tenth
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: network dude
It was a no-win situation.
Too many on either side had a political agenda.
The smart move would have been to do nothing. Let people be people.
We're talking about a place to void ones bladder.
In the grand scheme of things, it shouldn't ever matter what bathroom you use.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: luthier
I think you 100% don't grasp what this was about or how it happened. Perhaps even more.
The leadership of NC reacted to the city of Charlotte ludicrous bathroom bill, which spawned HB2. Had Charlotte not tried to be the Transgender capitol of the world, none of this would have happened. There was no way the conservative leadership in a staunchly republican state in the center of the Bible belt could not react to this, which is exactly why it was enacted in the first place. It was a political ploy.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: network dude
No, that's not the reality here.
Conservatives freaked out over nothing, nothing at all. and created a whole problem for THEMSELVES.
The backlash only started once the Gov and the legislature went ape sh.t bananas and tried everything they could to fight an ordinance that did not affect them.
Not one bit. THEY were the ones that politicised it because of their religion, or morals or whatever else they wanna claim to be their high ground. If THEY had not done that, nothing would have come of it.
Now had it been the other way around, where the state started it and the LGBT community tried to intervene and then caused problems I would agree with you. But that's not what happened.
The state did this to themselves by trying to legislate something they had no business legislating in the first place.
~Tenth
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: luthier
I think you 100% don't grasp what this was about or how it happened. Perhaps even more.
The leadership of NC reacted to the city of Charlotte ludicrous bathroom bill, which spawned HB2. Had Charlotte not tried to be the Transgender capitol of the world, none of this would have happened. There was no way the conservative leadership in a staunchly republican state in the center of the Bible belt could not react to this, which is exactly why it was enacted in the first place. It was a political ploy.
Oh I do, I live an hour away. I am a libertarian conservative. The entire thing was a stunt and un called for. As was the Governors childish moves when he left office.
so Charlotte gets a free pass to enact whatever laws they want, and the state governement has no say in things?
Again, we agree, but somehow you seem to want to fight this.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: luthier
I think you 100% don't grasp what this was about or how it happened. Perhaps even more.
The leadership of NC reacted to the city of Charlotte ludicrous bathroom bill, which spawned HB2. Had Charlotte not tried to be the Transgender capitol of the world, none of this would have happened. There was no way the conservative leadership in a staunchly republican state in the center of the Bible belt could not react to this, which is exactly why it was enacted in the first place. It was a political ploy.
Oh I do, I live an hour away. I am a libertarian conservative. The entire thing was a stunt and un called for. As was the Governors childish moves when he left office.
In his defense, he was shafted, and since the worst that anyone could do it not re-elect him, he did throw a few greasy banana peels on the floor. I would have preferred he took the high road, but I also understand what he did.
He had this state on a path to amazing things, and Cooper is just an idiot. Anyone who watched the debates could tell that.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
It's not that I wanna fight, it's that you claim it was the LGBT community who created this whole mess and who made it out to be what it is, but it wasn't, it was the the decisions of the legislature and the Gov that created the issues that led to the state loosing so much.
Once city made a ruling - the state decided to get involved for no other reason than religious/political differences.
They were the catalyst for what we see as the end result, a state that's lost billions of dollars trying to save face.
~Tenth