Has there ever been a real pedophile ring???

a reply to: MysterX
Thailand gets mentioned rather often as a place where pedos go to get underage hookers.

I've often wondered about the surprisingly large number of Europeans who were killed in the Boxing Day Tsunami in 2004. Particularly given the decidedly unsavory reputation those resorts have/had.

In the US, the cliche "massage parlor" brothel is stocked with suspiciously young girls from China or Southeast Asia. (And the girls don't speak English, and are never allowed outside.) There's no way this happens without the help of a human trafficking ring.

'Survivors have waited too long': 4000 institutions named in sex abuse royal commission
www.smh.com.au...

"Survivors have waited too long for an effective response to their suffering and the future protection of Australian children must be given the highest priority," he said. Justice McClellan and five commissioners have heard the testimony of more than 6500 child sexual abuse survivors in private sessions, with another 2000 people still awaiting a meeting. More than 1200 witnesses have appeared at the commission in 400 days of public hearings. Data gleaned largely from private sessions found there were more than 4000 institutions where alleged abuse of children occurred.

It is hard for me to believe that there are this many men out there that prey on children.

What is happening?

And yes I believe J.A. is involved and many people in high places, right here in the good ole U. S. of A.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

Don't think for a second only Men are Child sex abusers...there are plenty of Women involved with facilitating and actual abuse too.

It's not a gender thing.

Only a couple of months ago, at our local recreation park, there was a Man described to be in his thirties, of European origin (Accurate or not, Poland was the country named by witnesses) accompanied by a Woman of roughly similar age, who appeared to be his girlfriend...the Man, was naked from the waist down, his jogging pants around his ankles, his 'girlfriend' reportedly was masturbating him, while they both stared intently at the children playing on the swings etc...when challenged, they both ran off...were not caught either as far as i heard.

So, it's both sexes involved.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

And yes I believe J.A. is involved and many people in high places, right here in the good ole U. S. of A.

So do I!

Just how exactly did a restaurant owner get to be the 49th most 'powerful' person in Washington??

gawker.com...

Convicted Pedophile Priest Claims the Vatican Had a Rentboy Ring 116.94K Nitasha Tiku 06/28/13 12:39PM Filed to: Catholic Church Hold on to your rosaries, this is going to get ugly. Don Patrizio Poggi, a parish priest in Rome who served five years for sexually abusing teenage boys, has filed a complaint with Italian police alleging the existence of a Vatican "rent boy" ring. According to The Times of London, Poggi claims that a former officer of the Carabinieri, Italy's military police, served as the pimp: The former Carabinieri police officer pulled up outside a bar known as Twink — slang for a gay youth — next to Rome’s central station. He was driving a Fiat Panda marked “Emergency Blood” so he could easily park. There, he picked up Romanian immigrant “rent-boys”, some underage, for gay encounters with Catholic priests around Rome.

From what I have read, this trafficking is bigger than oil.

Bring in the immigrants.

Babylonian Luciferianism,

a reply to: MysterX

So, it's both sexes involved.

Yes, sadly, it is.

Listen to this girls testimony of the abuse she received with the help of her GRANDMOTHER.

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: Stormdancer777

And yes I believe J.A. is involved and many people in high places, right here in the good ole U. S. of A.

So do I!

Just how exactly did a restaurant owner get to be the 49th most 'powerful' person in Washington??

yup

a reply to: stosh64

Correctamundo Gentlemen.

It going to be a very interesting Spring and Summer.



Buck

a reply to: MysterX

Don't think for a second only Men are Child sex abusers...there are plenty of Women involved with facilitating and actual abuse too.

I am glad you brought that up, I never have seen so many female teachers involved with this.

a reply to: Stormdancer777

From what I have read, this trafficking is bigger than oil.

From my years of research I agree, it is the white elephant in the room of society that NO ONE will touch.

It is used to keep our leaders in control, blackmail.

Babylonian Luciferianism,

Without a doubt

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: MacK80
a reply to: JoshuaCox

No, I would say that's retarded, similar to thinking the CIA spies on you specifically through your TV.

It happens to a degree you can't say it doesn't, that's the upper limit.

I'm asking if there are any real life examples of a pizza gate or child version of a prostitution ring???

The answer is yes and no. There are many fraudulent claims, even not pizzagate related in this case so no.
But due to pure statistics of the world, the answer is yes, because there is simply so many people. Are they 'higher ups'? No, that's extremely unlikely, that only raises their odds of dodging conviction, so things like drug and prostitution trade would be the world leaders of child trafficking because it's relevant business.

For anyone already illegally owning women, owning children isn't a huge leap; these are the kind of people that hurt puppies, but there isn't a separating factor between these bad people that run these sex networks of children and nonchildren.

Being against trafficking in general would be more useful towards the cause of children, if only to separate itself from pizza gate, but then you get more accurate stats and figures and less fantasy about reptilian democrats.

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: JoshuaCox

There were so many examples of the media selling the bust of a child porn web site as "breaking up a pedophile ring" that I couldn't find any actual examples..

WT absolute F, where do you think 'kiddie' porn comes from?? Is it CGI?!?

The bust in the Netherlands, they found over 1TB of CHILD PORN images, do you have ANY idea how many pictures of children going through ACTUAL abuse that is? It would take MANY years, with a team, just to view all the pictures.

If you don't want to believe it exists, if it would 'upset' your little version of reality, then by all means pretend it doesn't exists.

If you really wanted to know the TRUTH, you would have done some research before starting this ignorant thread.

So was this thread due to ignorance, laziness or other reasons?

I don't really keep up with the kiddie porn scene lol, but I would guess it mainly comes from individual cases of child abuse..

Sickos take pictures of them molesting kids, and post it online..

They would not be proof of a pizza gate esc, pedophile ring..

If those types of pedophile rings are rampant, then were is a couple cases of them that got busted??

Your lumping anything involving child molestation under the umbrella of a pedo ring...

When to me a pedo ring, as I think most people would define it. Would resemble a prostitution ring, or a dog fighting ring...

Multiple offenders with multiple victims , most likely keeping the captive or in some form of harem only to be victimized repeatedly , most likely in some way for illegal profit.

Just like a car theft ring, prostitution ring, a gun smuggling ring.. a drug ring..

None of those cases are considered rings if it's one guy who keeps stealing the same car, or one pimp working one hooker..

Those are not rings..

originally posted by: MacK80

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: MacK80
a reply to: JoshuaCox

No, I would say that's retarded, similar to thinking the CIA spies on you specifically through your TV.

It happens to a degree you can't say it doesn't, that's the upper limit.

I'm asking if there are any real life examples of a pizza gate or child version of a prostitution ring???

The answer is yes and no. There are many fraudulent claims, even not pizzagate related in this case so no.
But due to pure statistics of the world, the answer is yes, because there is simply so many people. Are they 'higher ups'? No, that's extremely unlikely, that only raises their odds of dodging conviction, so things like drug and prostitution trade would be the world leaders of child trafficking because it's relevant business.

For anyone already illegally owning women, owning children isn't a huge leap; these are the kind of people that hurt puppies, but there isn't a separating factor between these bad people that run these sex networks of children and nonchildren.

Being against trafficking in general would be more useful towards the cause of children, if only to separate itself from pizza gate, but then you get more accurate stats and figures and less fantasy about reptilian democrats.

Don't doubt it at all, I ment to specify in the OP "in a modern country" as obviously in a war torn area or 3rd world country there is no telling what you find..

But people have been thinking that there are. Countless child harems and pizza gate type elite pedo rings in every large city..

When I think that seems like the kinda thing you don't share with other people if you are rich and famous...

That it would be worth the resources to go to BFE rather than risk doing ANYTHING like that stateside..

As of yet I havest seen even one example.. sire you have everything under the sun somewhere, but is it a trend or something that should be dominating the conversation??

I'm sure there are thousands of paedo rings worldwide sadly but the internet has to be included in definition as that is likely what a lot of them use - increases networking and profitability, more hidden etc. A lot of the paedo rings you describe sound like the types that existed prior to the 90s, when you had these secretive shady parties eg Elm Guest House, Warwick Spinks etc. If you go further back there were people in government who genuinely believed the age of consent should be lowered. The internet has just given these people a way to commit these crimes with more secrecy, they probably haven't met each other most of the time. It's still a ring though.

originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: Stormdancer777

From what I have read, this trafficking is bigger than oil.

From my years of research I agree, it is the white elephant in the room of society that NO ONE will touch.

It is used to keep our leaders in control, blackmail.

Babylonian Luciferianism,

Without a doubt

Then why has no one ever been caught??

Why hasn't this or that major leader gotten out of line and had them tell on him.???

Shouldn't there be at least a dozen of examples of where, it just all went wrong and word got out??

originally posted by: twfau
I'm sure there are thousands of paedo rings worldwide sadly but the internet has to be included in definition as that is likely what a lot of them use - increases networking and profitability, more hidden etc. A lot of the paedo rings you describe sound like the types that existed prior to the 90s, when you had these secretive shady parties eg Elm Guest House, Warwick Spinks etc. If you go further back there were people in government who genuinely believed the age of consent should be lowered. The internet has just given these people a way to commit these crimes with more secrecy, they probably haven't met each other most of the time. It's still a ring though.

As long as they were actually meeting up to trade victims or money for victims, and you had enough people involved to consider it a ring I agree..

But if the people never actually meet up, and it is solely picture swapping.. then I would call that a (rightfully evil) child pornography ring..

Barely better than a pedo ring if not even money evil for both, I think those are 2 different things.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
One is a group of guys passing around 1 girl they had access to.. aka not a ring..

I can't believe what I'm reading here, a pedophile ring is a pedophile ring, supposing the ring only get their hands on one victim, it's stil a pedophile ring and one victim too many...

A pedophile is a pedophile, a pedophile ring as I think most people think of every other ring, requires multiple people running multiple victims..

I never said if they were solo it was any better.. just that it wouldn't be a ring.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Somewhere in between that is people who meet up on the internet to trade the videos they have made themselves.

Massive Norway Ring

Unfortunately there are still rings of people who meet up. Perhaps not so common in UK but across the world certainly.

BBC article

You could find lots more I'm sure (some conspiracy, some real), but it's a little soul-destroying.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I was going to post this here, but I decided it was worth its own thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: JoshuaCox
Joshua, if you are really intereseted, take a look at the Homeland Security Website and/or check with the local SART group in your area. I don't suggest you go looking around the internet too deeply, especailly not looking into special travel packages.

I wish this was just fake news, a made up thing, but in this case, truth is much stranger than fiction.