Do residents of major cities need to accept terrorism as part of life?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: markosity1973

The answer is no, you as a citizen of your country have the right to have your security protected by your elected officials and if they are not doing their job you have to voice your concerns.

Do no become part of the silent majority.

So...


Are you saying it is better to give up freedom for security ?

You actually want to give authority more power to keep you safe ?

So.... passing laws that are targeted specifically at the Islamic community and eradicating radicalism within it would affect the rest of the populations freedom how exactly?

The problem is idiocracy. We know what the problem is, so we only need to specifically target that, no?

a reply to: markosity1973

I just attended my local gay pride festival this weekend (it sucked, as do most contrived acceptance parades) where my favorite question was:

Do you know any gay Muslims?

Anybody want to guess what the answer was?

a reply to: markosity1973

If the Muslim community were doing something to rat out the radicals among them, we would have no problems.

Yep same reality with christian pedophile priests, if the moderate priests would only rat out out the kiddy fondling priests all kids would be safe.

If the law abiding police would weed out the criminal police we could end police corruption.

If the non violent blacks in the black community would only stand together against violence.

Do you really have any concept how utterly ridiculous your stance is ?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: markosity1973

I just attended my local gay pride festival this weekend (it sucked, as do most contrived acceptance parades) where my favorite question was:

Do you know any gay Muslims?

Anybody want to guess what the answer was?

Actually, being of that community I do.

This guy came out to his family. They all took turns at beating the crap out of him then they threw him out on the street and told him if they ever saw his face again that they would kill him in the name of Allah and the prophet.

Kinda made me glad that I grew up in a Christian family - they just got really upset, said it was the Devil and feuded with me for several years by comparison lol.

a reply to: markosity1973

Correction, you knew a gay Muslim.

Some would say his family beat 'the gay' out of him. Others would say they beat 'the Islam' out of him, either way I promise you he is Muslim no more.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: markosity1973

If the Muslim community were doing something to rat out the radicals among them, we would have no problems.

Yep same reality with christian pedophile priests, if the moderate priests would only rat out out the kiddy fondling priests all kids would be safe.

If the law abiding police would weed out the criminal police we could end police corruption.

If the non violent blacks in the black community would only stand together against violence.

Do you really have any concept how utterly ridiculous your stance is ?

Do you have any idea how your ridiculous liberalist stance is WHY we have a problem? Do you not have any ability to separate one issue from another?

Do you not understand that each of those things are standalone problems that are not interconnected as you would like me to believe?

originally posted by: markosity1973
So.... passing laws that are targeted specifically at the Islamic community and eradicating radicalism within it would affect the rest of the populations freedom how exactly?

The "Patriot" Act isn't targeted specifically at the Islamic community, and affects the rest of the population.

The National Defense Authorization Act isn't targeted specifically at the Islamic community, and affects the rest of the population.

"Terrorism" (even actual terrorism) is not limited to the Islamic community, nor are the freedom-restricting laws enacted to fight against it.

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: Raxoxane
In my personal opinion,yes. So if you possibly can,avoid living in a major city. It's just gonna get worse.

My question to you is this;

Where is break point? How far does it need to go before we all wake up and say ENOUGH?

A wise man once said

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

How much longer will the good people of this world sit in silence?

So do you think when the Republic of Ireland, and England, suffered repeated bomb attacks by (mainly) the IRA, all Christians or at least Catholics should have been attacked? Obviously of course by your reckoning certainly all Irish people would be classed as bad people wouldn't they?

But of course you will say that's different, no?

No it was not different.

The IRA was a terrorist organisation and committed some terrible acts of terror. The difference is that they have laid down their arms now so are no longer a real problem.

Islam has not so they are still a problem that is getting worse. Also the IRA has a single target - the UK. ISLAM commits acts of terror across the globe. Some of the worst being in supposedly Islamic nations themselves

Did you not understand my post at all? Islam is not the problem - people committing terrorist acts under the flag of that religion are, in the same way that the IRA associating itself with the Catholic Church didn't make all Catholics terrorists - do you comprehend?

originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: markosity1973
So.... passing laws that are targeted specifically at the Islamic community and eradicating radicalism within it would affect the rest of the populations freedom how exactly?

The "Patriot" Act isn't targeted specifically at the Islamic community, and affects the rest of the population.

The National Defense Authorization Act isn't targeted specifically at the Islamic community, and affects the rest of the population.

"Terrorism" (even actual terrorism) is not limited to the Islamic community, nor are the freedom-restricting laws enacted to fight against it.

You're American I presume and well, yeah you guys are on a whole new level of crazy.

That Trump guy y'all voted in seemed promising at first, but it now seems he is just making things worse. A lot worse.

My sympathies to the lot of you.......

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: markosity1973

If the Muslim community were doing something to rat out the radicals among them, we would have no problems.

Yep same reality with christian pedophile priests, if the moderate priests would only rat out out the kiddy fondling priests all kids would be safe.

If the law abiding police would weed out the criminal police we could end police corruption.

If the non violent blacks in the black community would only stand together against violence.

Do you really have any concept how utterly ridiculous your stance is ?

Do you have any idea how your ridiculous liberalist stance is WHY we have a problem? Do you not have any ability to separate one issue from another?

Do you not understand that each of those things are standalone problems that are not interconnected as you would like me to believe?

How then are they different ?

a reply to: uncommitted

The problem with your Catholic/IRA dichotomy is that it isn't inherent to the Catholic doctrine to go around blowing people up to advance the church. Just like it isn't written anywhere in the bible that it's ok to lie in the name of God in order to advance the agenda of the church.

But in the flipside of that, in every version of Islam there is taquiya and martyrdom.

Until Islam has a reformation, it will have no place in the civilized world.

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: markosity1973
So.... passing laws that are targeted specifically at the Islamic community and eradicating radicalism within it would affect the rest of the populations freedom how exactly?

The "Patriot" Act isn't targeted specifically at the Islamic community, and affects the rest of the population.

The National Defense Authorization Act isn't targeted specifically at the Islamic community, and affects the rest of the population.

"Terrorism" (even actual terrorism) is not limited to the Islamic community, nor are the freedom-restricting laws enacted to fight against it.

You're American I presume and well, yeah you guys are on a whole new level of crazy.

That Trump guy y'all voted in seemed promising at first, but it now seems he is just making things worse. A lot worse.

My sympathies to the lot of you.......

I live in OZ and i remember you from your story a while back about you and your girlfriend in Parramatta, you claimed you walked into a scary area where you didn't feel safe and you implied it was because of Muslims. I called you out on it and you could not tell me any more than there were lots of cars yards. To which i replied its called "auto alley" and asked you to be more specific as to where, as i know there well from living there for years. That's where the conversation ended.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: Raxoxane
In my personal opinion,yes. So if you possibly can,avoid living in a major city. It's just gonna get worse.

My question to you is this;

Where is break point? How far does it need to go before we all wake up and say ENOUGH?

A wise man once said

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

How much longer will the good people of this world sit in silence?

So do you think when the Republic of Ireland, and England, suffered repeated bomb attacks by (mainly) the IRA, all Christians or at least Catholics should have been attacked? Obviously of course by your reckoning certainly all Irish people would be classed as bad people wouldn't they?

But of course you will say that's different, no?

No it was not different.

The IRA was a terrorist organisation and committed some terrible acts of terror. The difference is that they have laid down their arms now so are no longer a real problem.

Islam has not so they are still a problem that is getting worse. Also the IRA has a single target - the UK. ISLAM commits acts of terror across the globe. Some of the worst being in supposedly Islamic nations themselves

Did you not understand my post at all? Islam is not the problem - people committing terrorist acts under the flag of that religion are, in the same way that the IRA associating itself with the Catholic Church didn't make all Catholics terrorists - do you comprehend?

Islam IS the problem. It is YOU that needs to wake up.

You do not have Christians making the statements in the videos below

"Killing homosexuals is compassionate"



Muslims enjoy killing Christians



The IRA is just a political group that takes issue with British rule in Northern Ireland.

a reply to: redmage

"Terrorism" (even actual terrorism) is not limited to the Islamic community, nor are the freedom-restricting laws enacted to fight against it.

This is a really important detail that some people seem to miss.

The real issue is whether or not they miss it intentionally.

originally posted by: markosity1973
You're American I presume and well, yeah you guys are on a whole new level of crazy.

That Trump guy y'all voted in seemed promising at first, but it now seems he is just making things worse. A lot worse.

My sympathies to the lot of you.......

Meh, the Trump thing here isn't much different than the Pauline Hanson thing over there. Crazy exists everywhere.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yes that is true and it was me and my BOYFRIEND.

One Muslim actually held back another from attacking my partner who is way more obviously gay than I am. We were also spat at.

It was Punchbowl in Sydney.

edit on 28-3-2017 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: uncommitted

The problem with your Catholic/IRA dichotomy is that it isn't inherent to the Catholic doctrine to go around blowing people up to advance the church. Just like it isn't written anywhere in the bible that it's ok to lie in the name of God in order to advance the agenda of the church.

But in the flipside of that, in every version of Islam there is taquiya and martyrdom.

Until Islam has a reformation, it will have no place in the civilized world.

You haven't read the Old Testament at any point I take it?

People cherry pick the Quran to try and insist it not only justifies but celebrates murder in the same way they will cherry pick Leveticus to insist that God doesn't like gay people.

a reply to: markosity1973

Stop being such a drama queen, they are individuals, they are terrorists, they hide behind the religion.

To call the IRA 'just a political group' (it not by the way, that would be Sinn Fein) just shows your lack of knowledge. I'm waiting for your next post to start with "I've got friends who are Muslim but..."

a reply to: uncommitted

You haven't read the Old Testament at any point I take it?

Show me in the old testament where it says it's ok to murder gay people in the name of god.

And then after that, show me where it says it's ok to lie, under any circumstance.