Rumors Have It that Michael Flynn Was Flipped by FBI

a reply to: dawnstar

Their preferred guy is Pence, he was to implement their policy through Drumpf.
Too bad that they made a deal with the Russian Devil to grab power.
Now hopefully this will blow up in their face & shed some mainstream light on their dark religulous desires.

As I said earlier all this depends on having enough honest people of real integrity & true love of their nation in the IC to out these lying thieving scum that have wormed their way to power.

I'm not just referring to the civilian agencies, DIA where the hell are you!

K~

a reply to: aethertek

Love this country?

You mean like the left over crap Democrats in congress?

Yeah, that will do it alright.

a reply to: marg6043

well, something was picked up, by what I hear, legally, in some kind of investigation.... weather it be the russian interference with our elections, or something else. would you be so upset if it was found out that your name, your posts, your communications appeared in the intelligence files? because, I wouldn't be surprised at all if mine did and I pretty much am a loner and don't communicate much at all with anyone but my family.

a reply to: dawnstar

I think Wikileaks already has proven how we all are under the watchful eye of our spying agencies.

But dawnstar didn't we knew this already?

We have been talking about this subject for years, darn you know that, we are both some of the few that has been in ATS for years. specially for posting in boards like this one I bet we have a file and has been there for as long as we have been members here.



We are oldies.

a reply to: marg6043

but, suddenly, it's big news and such a crime that those intelligence agencies have picked up some in the trump circle??
come one!!! what's good for the goose is good for the gander! especially since today, tomorrow, next week, or next year, or sometime in the future someone is going to enter that white house probably and start going through that vast database of meaningly crap that they've been collecting when they decide, probably based on purely political agendas...
who are the true enemies of the states and commence to remove them from the public...
which considering what the true state of economy probably is, well, probably isn't that far off...

the scapegoats are in the process of being created now.
and obviously, some seem to think that use liberals should be among them.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SaturnFX

I wonder if this entire term of presidency will be clouded with speculations of russian infiltration overall.

You mean like location of birth?

heh, this could make one believe in karma

a reply to: dawnstar

Gotta love the Trumpinistas wailing about the IC monitoring Drumpf associates communications.

If Trump & his surrogates wouldn't have been calling & communicating with Russian operatives who were legally being monitored because,,, wait for it,,,, they're Russian operatives.

Damn not hard to comprehend, Trumps team got monitored because they're calling & talking to the Russian criminals who are under constant surveillance when in country.

The IC were doing their jobs, Trump & crew were just arrogant enough to believe they wouldn't get caught.

K~

a reply to: dawnstar

I know I choose a different candidate for the last elections as I could never have voter for Hillary, but that doesn't made me an enemy just s careful shopper.

I don't fall for political ideologies and neither trust political parties, but the Russia Trump link I don't see it.

Now, can we be friends again? I usually agree with you in most topics.

a reply to: aethertek

it's just stunning to me that the politicians seem to think it's okay to monitor us, who for many of us will never have an opportunity or reason to have conversations with the type of people that the intelligence community would be interesting in, but they seem so offended to find out that it extends to them when they are communicating to such people?? talk about feeling entitled!!!

a reply to: marg6043

I already think of you as a friend...
I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the clowns, so, just didn't bother this time around. my son told me there was a long line of voters at the school, and I just didn't feel like standing in line that long for nothing... probably would have written in mickey mouse anyways.
just keep in mind, if they can manage to take the rights away from one group, they can take away the rights of any group... sooner or later it could be a group that you belong to.

a reply to: marg6043

I don't fall for political ideologies and neither trust political parties, but the Russia Trump link I don't see it.

Eventually you will. This IC investigation is in it's infancy. Wait until they put Roger Stone in the hot seat. This is Treason pure and simple and he will sell out Trump to save his own greedy ass. "The swamp will be drained" just not the way Trump envisioned it.

www.rawstory.com...

a reply to: dawnstar

LOL
Of course they're upset, they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Are they really "monitoring" You?

Most collections =>90% go unheard.
The amount of data coming in is staggering.
Even with known Russian criminal elements in the mix they still have to trove through thousands of man hours to check the records.
Sure they could rely on algorithms for the task but considering the breadth & scope of possible treasonous activity I'm sure it's a fine comb at work.

K~

a reply to: aethertek

there's a possibility that their algorithms might pick up some of the posts I make on ATS, since I like...
"blowing up" things... metaphorically... I kind of went through a time when I liked to use that phrase, talking about the economy..."blowing up" and such... just to mess with them...
outside of that, I used to write letters to the gov't officials, non-threatening letters really... but after writing one, I kind of ended up with someone who was making visits to the pentagon on a regular basis in my life for a time.. he could have been playing on the up and up, or not, not really sure...
but, now, na, I think they are relatively sure that I am not a threat in any way..
I am just words on one little forum, presented to people to read and consider, accept or reject... most of the time giving the impression of being a little loony....

a reply to: dawnstar

Is not to many left from our group, dawnstar, we have lasted this long,

I think the investigation is focusing on how to avoid Russia interfering with the politics in other countries as well, if they can not find a link to Trump then they will go after the influencing part.

But what people doesn't understand is that US have a nice record of interfering on other countries politics also, including destabilization in order to create change that as we can see have not been successful at all.

I love politics will always be fascinating by what those in charge can do and not do and willing to do.

a reply to: dawnstar

They're not interested in you at all.

K~

a reply to: aethertek

lol... not if there's any intelligence whatsoever in their intelligence agency....

a reply to: marg6043

ya, that might be, but there's one big difference between russia manipulating our elections and the us manipulating others...
I happen to live in this country, and regardless of how much I think my gov't might be corrupt, or how wrong I think it is...
I just can't find myself supporting another country over the US... if Russia has plants or puppets in our gov't... I want them to fall...

a reply to: SeekingAlpha

I'm going to have to take this with a grain of salt until I hear something more credible.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: SaturnFX

CNN "contributor" opinion, actually.
www.rawstory.com...

I wonder if this entire term of presidency will be clouded with speculations of russian infiltration overall.

If the press has anything to say about it ... yes.

Remember when the '80s called and wanted its foreign policy back? Well apparently, the press agrees now and they're going to do their best to make sure we relive the Red Scare of the '50s.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: marg6043

ya, that might be, but there's one big difference between russia manipulating our elections and the us manipulating others...
I happen to live in this country, and regardless of how much I think my gov't might be corrupt, or how wrong I think it is...
I just can't find myself supporting another country over the US... if Russia has plants or puppets in our gov't... I want them to fall...

Just be careful the next time you go get your drivers' license renewed. You never know when that little old lady at the DMV might actually be a deep op Russian agent.

Isn't there a show about that? You know ... The Americans?

Oh dear, and isn't Trump always wanting to put Americans first? Russian angle confirmed.