Canada Passes 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam

originally posted by: Milehigh
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Is this hate speech?

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51% of British Muslims believe a woman cannot marry a non-Muslim

61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished

62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;

58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution

Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say 'Muslim' rather than 'Briton')

31% Muslims in Britain identify more with Muslims in other countries than with non-Muslim Brits.

42% of Canadian Muslims agree that Islam is "irreconcilable" with the West.

Muslims in France comprise 10% of the population, but 70% of prisoners.

Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states that: "Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, OPINION AND EXPRESSION, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.

How do you relate this with the limitations on speech that M-103 will impose?

This bill specifically separates Islam from all other religions in regards to discrimination. It's on par with what the Catholic Inquisition did in Medieval Europe. Just wait until the witch hunts begin.

originally posted by: Konduit
Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states that: "Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, OPINION AND EXPRESSION, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.

How do you relate this with the limitations on speech that M-103 will impose?

This bill specifically separates Islam from all other religions in regards to discrimination. It's on par with what the Catholic Inquisition did in Medieval Europe. Just wait until the witch hunts begin.

That would be "blasphemer hunts".

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Milehigh

Sharia Law isn't a religion, it's a rabidly oppressive brutally hegemonic Hyper-Tribalist theocratic political doctrine, where by your own logic to espouse it is tantamount to being a jail-able offense.

no you are right sharia law is not a religion. Whats your point? Islam is a religion and is protected by your Constitution , if you dont like it you can go live elsewhere.

To pass said law do they have firm proof that Islam is actually not just correct but factually sound, otherwise would it not just stop people talking about a fairy story in a book who's main lead is a aggressive, war mongering, pedo????...




Stupid f#cking bastards, more PC BS to shut you up...



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originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Milehigh
a reply to: infolurker

Great thimg for Canada. Protecting the marginalized is what a society should do.

Hopefully the dems can pass something similar in 2020

Free speech should be limited when people promote any sort of hate or violence against anyone, may it be against muslims or any other religion.

Free speech police should be formed to monitor all the people promoting fear and violence and be sent to jail to replace the ones that are there for non violent crimes.

Alright. I need to understand your logic.

You want it to be illegal to draw a cartoon of the prophet Mohammad but I bet you have no problem with the "art" of pissing on a crucifix?

How about this, should it be a crime to burn a Koran? If so, how about a Bible? Can we make fun of Scientology or Jehovah's witnesses anymore or are they not "special enough"?

How about statistics? Can we talk about those or are we forbidden?

So, it should be illegal to you to speak about things you don't like?

What I cannot stand about Progressives is this obsession with shutting down opposing views and speech. Why debate if you can just make it illegal with the threat of force if you disagree with it or just don't want to hear it.

you can debate all you want, but if you promote violence and hate while doing so it is no longer a debate amd should be done with yourself where no one can hear you.

a reply to: Milehigh

Again, what is considered "hate"?

Can Atheist mock Islam as they do Christianity? Can we make comedy out of the Prophet? Or is that illegal... just for Islam?

a reply to: infolurker

Hmm...

Which would you prefer. Laws protecting people from undue harassment, not criticism, not fun poking, but harassment and discrimination, OR would you simply rather that all the fascists were rounded up and shot, so that the problem ceases to exist, cheaply, efficiently and quickly?

Which do you have the greater problem with?

a reply to: TrueBrit

Depends on what model the UK is using for this issue and then we might see what we can use, fair enough

The title is completely misleading.

It is not a bill and has no affect on free speech. It is a motion condemning islamophobia and religious discrimination.

It adds no new laws.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: infolurker

Hmm...

Which would you prefer. Laws protecting people from undue harassment, not criticism, not fun poking, but harassment and discrimination, OR would you simply rather that all the fascists were rounded up and shot, so that the problem ceases to exist, cheaply, efficiently and quickly?

Which do you have the greater problem with?

I do not believe in censoring speech because what you have is "blasphemy laws" created by a political group to shut down opposing viewpoints. Once that happens, there is no end. Then everyone has to shut up, not have an opposing opinion or face the wrath of the PC Priests.

We have laws that apply to "everyone" or we do not. Equal protection under the law, not special ones for special groups. Assault is assault, murder is murder, opinion is opinion. Everyone is equal or they are not.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: infolurker

Hmm...

Which would you prefer. Laws protecting people from undue harassment, not criticism, not fun poking, but harassment and discrimination, OR would you simply rather that all the fascists were rounded up and shot, so that the problem ceases to exist, cheaply, efficiently and quickly?

Which do you have the greater problem with?

I do not believe in censoring speech because what you have is "blasphemy laws" created by a political group to shut down opposing viewpoints. Once that happens, there is no end. Then everyone has to shut up, not have an opposing opinion or face the wrath of the PC Priests.

you can have an opinion and debate without resulting in hate speech. If you cant,then you have no space in the public sphere.

The motion is symbolic, but is the beginning of a downward spiral to European levels of censorship, especially regarding Islam.

originally posted by: Milehigh
no you are right sharia law is not a religion. Whats your point? Islam is a religion and is protected by your Constitution , if you dont like it you can go live elsewhere.

Judging by the typical words of Obama loving PC liberal types, Sharia Law is to be protected and nurtured as if it were god itself.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Milehigh
no you are right sharia law is not a religion. Whats your point? Islam is a religion and is protected by your Constitution , if you dont like it you can go live elsewhere.

Judging by the typical words of Obama loving PC liberal types, Sharia Law is to be protected and nurtured as if it were god itself.

no you are just making stuff up. Generalization and amalgams seems to be your only way of argumemtation.

a reply to: infolurker

There is nothing wrong with holding an opinion.

But discrimination against and harassment of people, targeting them for abuse based on their race, colour, or religion, their sexual persuasions... these things are the habits of fascists, and must be counteracted somehow, so I ask you again, would you rather a law was passed to make harassment and discrimination on that basis illegal, or would you rather that all the fascists were rounded up and shot, thereby ending the problem entirely?

Its a relatively simple question.