Full Earth view from ISS Cupola Impossible 100 percent Fake

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons
a reply to: mikell

The fact that it is a dome does not change the fact that from a camera distance of 2 m from it, your view is still restricted by the 2m diameter......regardless of your lense.

And again, there simply is no line of sight to get the entire Earth from that altitude.

And again, according to NASA themselves it is impossible to get the entire Earth from lower Earth orbit. Did you read my OP?


And I think we have established that thee pics only show a portion of Earth, the question is now why is it rounded off looking like a sphere with space around it.

Fake.

Question... Do you know anything about optics? Lenses? Have you ever worn glasses? Because you seem to think that if it's clear and you can see through it, it's automatically like looking through a perfectly flat sheet of glass. You are avoiding evidence renders your argument invalid... When you take some empirical evidence and dismiss others to try and prove a point, that's straight up pseudoscience my friend.

originally posted by: chrismir

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons
a reply to: chrismir

I pointed this out myself. So why does it look like a sphere with space around it?

As mentioned several times now. Go google fisheye lens pictures.

BS, if it is not the entire Earth, then why do we see the edges and space around it? What does a fish eye lens have to do with this?

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons
So on this site you can see a pic from the cupola that shows lake Malawi. The lake is 580 km long. It is about one third of the shot. This means we are looking at 1700/1800 kms.

We should be seeing like I calculated earlier about 4700 km of the surface. The pic is obviously not zoomed in either.

www.issphotolibrary.com...


No matter how you look at these pics, they are fake, fake, fake.......

Just reposting this......

originally posted by: Zaphod58
Never mind.

Yes, you have gone awfully quiet. You are intelligent enough to realize I am right about these pics being fake.

So where is Phage? Phage where art thou with thy debunk?

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons

originally posted by: mikell

Your diagram is incorrect. The red lines in this case should be vertical because of the side windows in the cupola. Just because the glass it tilted, does not mean you can not see out at a line that is straight. Any window pane would give a 180 degree view.

a reply to: WaxingGibbons

How about answering my post?

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons

originally posted by: chrismir

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons
a reply to: chrismir

I pointed this out myself. So why does it look like a sphere with space around it?

As mentioned several times now. Go google fisheye lens pictures.

BS, if it is not the entire Earth, then why do we see the edges and space around it? What does a fish eye lens have to do with this?

sigh... I can't help it if you don't understand how fisheye lenses work, or at least cannot relate it to that picture, but that doesn't make it fake. At most it is a distorted image of reality, but not fake. lol

originally posted by: eriktheawful

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons

originally posted by: mikell

Your diagram is incorrect. The red lines in this case should be vertical because of the side windows in the cupola. Just because the glass it tilted, does not mean you can not see out at a line that is straight. Any window pane would give a 180 degree view.

Sigh, this drawing does not even represent the view from the cupola, it represents how much of the Earth you can see from a 450 km altitude.

With the view from inside the cupola as in the pics, with a camera being about 2m back from the windows, you would even see less.

You really don't get this?

a reply to: WaxingGibbons

With a wide angle lens and the cupola, you can, and your line should be 180 degrees.

I suggest you learn a bit more about wide angle lens and what they are capable of. I'd also recommend learning a bit more about geometry and line of sight.

It's been explained to you several times in this thread, but you seem to be ignoring those facts.

a reply to: Chadwickus

I already discussed that. I agree, it does not show the entire Earth. So why does it show this part of the Earth as a sphere with space around it if it is not faked?

And like I pointed out twice, using the length of lake Malawi, why does it show about 1700 km of the Earth when it should show 4700 km?

The pic is not zoomed in.

a reply to: eriktheawful

It has nothing to do with a lens, the drawing shows that you simply don't have a line of sight to see the whole Earth, you can't look through the horizon can you.

This is simple stuff, how can you not be getting this?

LOL I give up. It's pretty obvious what's going on here if you do a little homework... It's not fake, it's a distorted image. Like someone said earlier, no one is claiming that this is a perfect 1 to 1 representation of Earth. Though you might not believe this... Lenses have the ability to bend light and make objects appear differently than they would normally. That is a fact. If you apply that knowledge to the shape of the Capola and take a picture from inside it using a fish eye lens... It's easy to see that this is 100% possible. You could probably recreate it with materials from Home Depot and a GoPro.

a reply to: WaxingGibbons

fisheye lens

a reply to: DrWily

The thread has devolved into op attempting to goad and provoke others into engaging with him or her, heavily dosed with attempted condescension.

Methinks it's probably a previously banned member come back to haunt the board yet again.

a reply to: WaxingGibbons


No it's not 2 meters and you don't really get it!


You've went from sorrowful to humorous to a waste of time.

a reply to: DrWily

It either shows the whole Earth, which is impossible, and I agree it doesn't, or it shows only a portion of the Earth which means it is impossible that we see a sphere with space around it.

Simple as that. Take your pick, it can only be a fake in both cases.

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons

originally posted by: eriktheawful

originally posted by: WaxingGibbons

originally posted by: mikell

Your diagram is incorrect. The red lines in this case should be vertical because of the side windows in the cupola. Just because the glass it tilted, does not mean you can not see out at a line that is straight. Any window pane would give a 180 degree view.

Sigh, this drawing does not even represent the view from the cupola, it represents how much of the Earth you can see from a 450 km altitude.

With the view from inside the cupola as in the pics, with a camera being about 2m back from the windows, you would even see less.

You really don't get this?

No, you are the only one who doesn't get it.

Your 2m claim is total nonsense as you are ignoring fisheye distortion.

a reply to: WaxingGibbons

With the height of the ISS, the the direction of the cuplola, and the way it is designed with it's windows (all clearly shown in this thread), it affords a 180 view, and yes, you can see past the Earth at that height.

I'm afraid it is you that is lacking in understanding.

a reply to: moebius

What fish eye lense? What distortion? It's not even relevant at this point. This is all you need to know,

It either shows the whole Earth, which is impossible, and I agree it doesn't, or it shows only a portion of the Earth which means it is impossible that we see a sphere with space around it. Simple as that. Take your pick, it can only be a fake in both cases.

I am not a flat earther or saying anyone is
But this is a great thread, what I come to ats for
Thanks for bringing it to our attention

I cant see the fish eye thing being relevant how do you do that through a lens and not see more of the cockpit
And if it's just the fish eye window, why are they all in sync, they should all be different, showing different views?
Each window has to be an individual lens, they can't all be the same lens
There should be 7 different fish eye vies from each window, just can't get 1 image from 7 lenses
What am I missing