Trump Healthcare Vote Withdrawn

a reply to: olaru12

Now Trump is defiant and blaming it on the Dembs. and at the same time calling for bipartisanship.

Actually, he's pretty much saying that there was no need to "repeal and replace." That was, although nicely alliterative, just noise.

And he believes that Democrats will eventually want to work with him on some kind of legislative fix to Obamacare, although he did not say when that would be.

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originally posted by: olaru12
Now Trump is defiant and blaming it on the Dembs. and at the same time calling for bipartisanship.

How can he get anything done now? Talk about pissing in your oatmeal!!

I am not even sure why he is pointing fingers, he was told it was DOA in the Senate.

Anyone catch His Orangeness saying "We learned a lot about loyalty..."?

Dun, dun, dun...

a reply to: Kali74

Heh.

Has anyone told him that "You're Fired!" doesn't work for him with Congress?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Kali74

Heh.

Has anyone told him that "You're Fired!" doesn't work for him with Congress?

I don't think so, he is in a position where there are those stronger than he, I am sure this is an uncomfortable position for "The Donald" to be in.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

When they both try.... they both fail. Just as you did in trying to deflect blame from the orange douche bag.

a reply to: Phage

Probably not but when word gets out that he tried, Spicer will be there to fix it.

Sad day for America, we are stuck with Obamacare. Good day for America, we don't get GOP Establishment replacement plan. Hopefully once the system gets totally out of control, we'll be able to make some real health care reforms. If Trump wants to throw his hat in with the Establishment, he will suffer many more losses like this one.

a reply to: gortex

The only way to make meaningful improvement to the ACA is to begin morphing it into a not-for-profit "single-payer, universal healthcare system" similar to every other industrialized nation.

Problem is, when you say that phrase in the presence of republican legislators they start grasping for air like they've got a chicken bone stuck in their throats.

And they know full well that it's the most effective way for us to insure everyone while getting the biggest bang out of our healthcare bucks.

Problem is, it's not very popular amongst the private, for-profit healthcare insurance industry which represents a significant portion of their political donor base.

An industry who's very existence is dependent upon the profits generated by denying medical claims.

I hear republican leaders rant on and on about how bad it is to have the "govt." deciding what will or won't be a covered procedure with respect to my healthcare coverage.

But apparently it goes without saying that it's "A-OK" to have a private insurance company do that very same thing for a profit, because they never utter a word about that.

Personally, I think I'd rather have someone making that decision based on the merits of the procedure, instead of profits to be made or lost. But that's just me.

They would have been so much smarter to try for a clean repeal. Forgot the replace crap.

Yeah, there are some issues that would have to be worked out, but passing MORE laws is NOT a step in the right direction.

originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen
They would have been so much smarter to try for a clean repeal. Forgot the replace crap.

Yeah, there are some issues that would have to be worked out, but passing MORE laws is NOT a step in the right direction.

Absolutely!

I could not be happier with this outcome!

Now I hope they come to their senses and simply let Obamacare collapse and tag that massive failure to the vile leftists who foisted that scam on Americans in the first place.

a reply to: AnonymousCitizen

They would have been so much smarter to try for a clean repeal.

Smarter?
In any case, they would have been no more successful. While the Freedom Caucus would have been on board, they aren't that large a block.

originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen
They would have been so much smarter to try for a clean repeal. Forgot the replace crap.

Yeah, there are some issues that would have to be worked out, but passing MORE laws is NOT a step in the right direction.

Moderate Republicans wouldn't have gone along with that. And of course, no Democrats would. I wonder WHAT would please enough of Congress to get a majority vote and pass the House/Senate?

a reply to: gortex


Oh wow like these political transvestite republican really care outside of their own party and political skin.

Proud of the freedom caucus.
Nice to see Many republicans stand up to a bad bill.

Ryan put Trump in a pickle.

Trump had no choice.

Think about it, Let's say he comes out against Ryan's bill. Could you imagine the headlines?
WaPo: IMPLOSION: GOP in Civil War
NYT: Trump and Ryan at WAR!

Everyone should be happy this bill was killed.

originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen
They would have been so much smarter to try for a clean repeal. Forgot the replace crap.

Yeah, there are some issues that would have to be worked out, but passing MORE laws is NOT a step in the right direction.

Common Americans are very much aware of the issues in our medical care system, and that would have been a bigger disaster, there are some good parts of the ACA for many Americans.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen
They would have been so much smarter to try for a clean repeal. Forgot the replace crap.

Yeah, there are some issues that would have to be worked out, but passing MORE laws is NOT a step in the right direction.

Moderate Republicans wouldn't have gone along with that. And of course, no Democrats would. I wonder WHAT would please enough of Congress to get a majority vote and pass the House/Senate?

A well thought out plan that addresses the true issues within the for profit medical industry. That will never happen, big Pharma has too much money to lobby with.

The best alternative would be to repeal the whole damn thing and let the free market work.

But since we have spineless GOP legislators, all they wanted to do was slap a coat of paint on the ACA.

I support the Freedom Caucus standing firm. We need a better legislation. Replacing Ryan with an actual conservative would be good too.

This is a good thing. The government needs to be kept out of our healthcare. Americans didn't want the words "or replaced" anywhere in anything anyone had to say.

ObamaCare repealed ... or Trump painted with the same brush as Paul Ryan.

I hope Trump does the obvious. The Dems wanted to keep Obamacare and apparently others did also. So...let it fail. Let it crash burn and don't lift a finger. Then, when it is gone...or worse...sit back and laugh.