What is the "strangest" idea or concept you have that most people have never even considered?

a reply to: MacK80

The reference was to John Lennon claiming to be bigger than Jesus. It's been an on going joke for like 50 years now..

originally posted by: MacK80
a reply to: djz3ro

My bad, incredibly world famous person.

When's the last time you've even had to add "Christ"

Jesus? Jesus who? Oh Christ, right. Ya, I know him.

Jesus

originally posted by: eisegesis
The concept that most of the media is owned by the CIA and that what people subject themselves to could be manufactured with intent. That people come to a conspiracy website and discuss politics, citing information that is fed to them in a controlled manner, thus controlling them. Knowing that the "philosopher's stone/elixir of life" is real and almost every human in existence will never know of it.

This one.

a reply to: MacK80

These are all just paradigms or worldviews to try on. If it doesn't work for you or doesn't fit you don't have to wear it or own it, or even read it, there's no need to get upset or try to muzzle if there's any Godtalk. Some ideas are intended for some people to "grok" but not for others. It obviously wasn't for you if it's not your cup of tea or if you don't wish to steep in it.

Don't take this quote the wrong way either, but it may be worth considering.

"There is a principal which serves as a bar against all information and proof against all arguments and that cannot fail to keep a person in everlasting ignorance. That principal is called contempt, prior to investigation."
~ Herbert Spencer, Scientist

as the great vallee once said i am a heretic among heretics
i believe on "them" but they arent extraterrestrial

a reply to: Denoli

wat????????

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

My strange idea. That your present thoughts can effect your past self..

When I was in middle school, we were in science class talking about the Sun, everything about it. Our teacher posed a question, "What will we do if our sun dies one day?"

I looked around and innocently said, "can we refuel it? by shooting a bunch of nukes into?"

Learning something new, like the sun and inner workings, I was simply connecting dots and such as "nuclear". Some jock kid looked at me and was like, "you can refuel the sun stupid! that's impossible!".

My strange concept? People should be migratory. We build these really cool motor homes, with the best technology and live like the herds. Our home would always be on the move.

I think that when Birds are twittering together that they're talking with each other and urgently sharing all the latest "news", even about what we're up to, and laughing about it. It's not just all for mating. They are expressing a certain joy, communicating.

We know so little, and they probably know so much (in their own way).

They experience the reality. We don't, by trying to cut it up or put it in some sort of box that we think we can live with, and it drains the life experience right out of us, all those judgements and distinctions and presumptions about "the way things are".

We're ridiculous. Big brained oafs, where bird brains know more about the true nature of the world than we do.

Are these birds sharing.. taking turns..?

Notice how that vid was titled "movie for cats".

In a non-local, holographic universe - local matters.


say this to someone if they ever ask you why you're paying such attention to minor detail.

Well I think we have all heard or can semi understand the statement that "there is no past or future, there is only ever the present". I believe that is true on a fundamental level that we don't normally look at, and that essentially past, present, and future are all happening at the same time. I don't quite know how to vocalize or explain my understanding of it, but I think it offers a simple explanation for a lot of things we don't currently understand.

*edit* Purplemer I hope you see this comment, because I think you and I are essentially talking about the same thing.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
In a non-local, holographic universe - local matters.

say this to someone if they ever ask you why you're paying such attention to minor detail.

This idea brings to my mind the book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" by Robert Pirsig.

We become one with what we love, but true quality and craftsmanship has been lost or watered because we lost touch with quality or virtue as its own reward. It all happened after they made Socrates drink the Hemlock poison, and Aristotle decided to make quality and virtue the subject of a dialectic while enshrining materialism in the categorization and labelling for the purpose of institutionalizing Academia, instead of quality and virtue as something that's intrinsic to the heart of our connection with the world and with all creative action wherein the subject object duality falls away.

And in that moment, to this moment, we were thrown from the heart of the world, with such a worldview looked upon with distain as being too "solipsistic" and even egocentric, and an argument was made that the observer and the observed are two separate and distinct phenomenon within the context of traditional scientific inquiry, but which only raises more questions than it answers while always moving the bar.

We became lost. Lost from the being at the heart of it all. The ancients were not as primitive as we might presume, and they may have even been right but for all the wrong reasons, either way, when something is lost, it can be recovered, and although once dead, rendered alive again (not unlike the Prodigal Son).

We lost our place, but just maybe a table has already been set, also by anticipation from the origin of creation, and that's funny imho. Surprising. Superdeterministic. Always one step ahead while forever inviting us to catch up with it and with the utmost sense of urgency. True life. The happy life wherein Virtue is it's own reward and quality and craftsmanship a thing of great beauty and something more that transcends the duality of craftsman and object.

And it can take place, this.. koinonia, in the process of tuning a motorcycle, or in any endeavour, any activity, no matter how mundane where it may be said that the sacred lives in the mundane because - in a non-local, holographic universe, local matters. ha HA!

This is either liberating, or terrifying, or both, but who, when the self-imposed prison doors swing open, would rather relock it from the inside and cower in the far corner rather than to have the courage to be free and to come out to play?

We're a sad sad lot, most of us if not all of us, but even in the midst of the tears of regret in the face of the realization, is there not a loving smile that's capable of wiping away those tears, and even an outstretched hand of sorts, which to grasp, leads us straight into the resurrected life and thus into tears of hilarity and astonishment and immense gratitude and love where it's possible to be entirely consoled and comforted?

We have much to mourn over, including a world set apart from us for no reason, but it's also very funny from the new POV, and thus it can become the place where tears of regret can be become tears of hilarity at our own prior ignorance and absurdity.

I think this is a blessed realization because once the mind and heart changes shape, once the truth and the spirit is touched and a spark lit, then there's no stopping the light that shines for all in the house and that light is YOU.

That's the funny part of it too, that it's one person at a time starting with you, and me, for a party that cannot begin until we get there, but that once we arrive can be seen to have been the very thing that we were missing all along and that was available through a process of deductive and inductive reasoning which does not begin with the seperative, materialist monist, Newtonian/Cartesian POV, which is a faulty presupposition and worldview.

I would say that I've come to the conclusion that the world is seen how it is because of how you perceive it.

Change your perception and change the world.

I believe that feeling is a highly expedited form of thinking, but most people who say, "I feel..." aren't feeling, but are actually performing the slower and less precise thinking function. I believe people have these two concepts backwards - that or I'm an extremely fast thinker and a slow feeler; but I doubt that because my process becomes slow and inaccurate when I focus strictly on guiding myself through a process as opposed to being guided by something that can only be described as a set of internal emotional sensors. They see inside, hear inside, etc., the whole of a process or event with hardly any time at all. For example, everything that is said here, which is a fraction of a fraction of any description of the process, takes about 200 times longer to communicate, in these few words, than it does for the reality to be understood.

Therefore, I believe that many people are not as evil or stupid as they seem. Rather, some are poorly equipped to properly describe what occurs inside the virtual world inside of us that allows us to judge external reality.

a reply to: AnkhMorpork


Ok, this might be from watching too much ancient Aliens, but here it is. Maybe Earth is just a farm. A free range farm for US. The Annunaki put us here, made us just smart enough to become technological in a couple millennia to make our population eventually explode. At some point they will return, either to eat us or enslave us or maybe a combination of both. The Earth is the chicken farm of the Gods.

Life starts from a special condition resulting in a tiny spark of energy which finds temp shelter in single cell forms. As these cells develop the spark grows eventually requiring larger more complex "housing". Single cell to multi cell organisms to minute bugs then insects small animals and so forth.
Over the course of thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of years our energy is to massive for physical "housing" and we ascend to pure energy.
In this state we can wander about through space continuing to amass more and more energy through means not yet understandable until we collapse, explode and become what we all started from - a star.
The cycle starts again in a new star system.

I am grateful that everything that could have happened which would have precluded this particular occurrence from happening, didn't happen, because I wouldn't be typing this, nor you reading it, otherwise.

It's so very funny, for reasons that I can't quite explain.


What do we do now?

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: AnkhMorpork


Ok, this might be from watching too much ancient Aliens, but here it is. Maybe Earth is just a farm. A free range farm for US. The Annunaki put us here, made us just smart enough to become technological in a couple millennia to make our population eventually explode. At some point they will return, either to eat us or enslave us or maybe a combination of both. The Earth is the chicken farm of the Gods.

And their manual or manifesto for the Earth?

To serve man.

originally posted by: WhateverYouSay
I've spoken to spirits and they have confirmed to me that numerology is real, and that they will drop clues, often in 'innocuous' numbers relative to people so that their true nature can be revealed for all to see.

Welp I guess my joke was too subtle and no one picked up on it. That was my 666th post and I let it sit there for a while hoping someone would notice. C'est la vie

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

im stuck at the point where I know we are all one , but dont realise it , we know that consciousness manifests reality
and Ive seen what I think is the other side by shifting the baseline of my own consciousness
so with this knowledge how do I make the world a better place for all !

it's like knowing a cheat code exists but you just havent figured out how to use it yet !