College removes scales from gym after students complain it's 'triggering'

a reply to: Navieko

I already told you, i use a scale as well, there is just no need for it in a college.

They ARE useful but when you are trying to lose weight and you are lifting weights, then you will gain weight on the scale bc muscle weighs more than fat.

And of course i know of BMI, just not everyone has access to a machine. And even with that, you only do it at MOST ...once a week.

To think you know it all and any other good ideas are just sensitive and dumb really says alot more about you than myself.

a reply to: veracity

It's not simply about working out, training, or health.

In some sports there are actual weight limits on what things are allowed. Too much weight in a sport where the body mass is being physically thrown around is too much weight no matter how healthy it is. For this reason, the scales are not a tool so much for measuring overall health and fitness as they are a tool for keeping one's body within the acceptable parameters for being a physical mass that can be thrown by one's teammates.

a reply to: ketsuko

yes, such as wrestling, they are paired by weight. However, if you weight more or less, you are not kicked of the team so to say...you just wrestle in that weight category that day.


But that reason alone should not allow scales out front at colleges. perhaps at the wrestling meet, where you have to weight in to see who you wrestle.

And again, i use scales myself. I see the benefit in them. They are just sort of an out-dated way to gauge your weight these days.

a reply to: veracity

Yes, muscle does weigh more than fat, and when you are being thrown up in the air by your teammates, this is something that has to be taken into account. It is a balancing act between maintaining the strength you need to perform the acrobatics and doing it such a so as not to pack too much overt muscle mass. Training for cheerleading is therefore about keeping your muscle mass lean and finding ways to strengthen that lean muscle mass without bulking. A scale in that scenario is very useful and not at all demeaning.

a reply to: ketsuko

10-20 lbs may make a difference, but when you are thin and gaining weight bc you are making muscle, lol, no, that does not make a difference, lofl

if anything, it makes you more nimble to do the "flying" part of the routine.

originally posted by: veracity
And of course i know of BMI, just not everyone has access to a machine. And even with that, you only do it at MOST ...once a week.

Apparently not enough, because if you did you'd know that a "machine" is not needed to calculate your BMI. Just knowledge of the formula along with one simple tool that should be accessible in any gym... want to take a wild stab in the dark as to what that is?

To think you know it all and any other good ideas are just sensitive and dumb really says alot more about you than myself.

I'm not saying your ideas in some limited circumstances, for some people, are dumb. I'm saying that a scale will always be more accurate a tool for measuring weight, than your alternatives, and to say otherwise truly is dumb.

The question is how is that scale used and for what purpose. You're trying to say that there is no good way or purpose of using a scale within a college/gym - and you've yet to provide any remotely convincing argument to that affect - as your only experience in the matter seems to be drawn from the narrow-minded point of view that they are used to achieve a "good enough" healthy weight, and only having the "desirable dress" that you'd like to wear, is a "good enough" solution.

People - particularly students - should be encouraged to, and should have all the tools available to them that will help in striving for more than just your standard of "good enough" - if that's what they want. It's called being competitive. This World would be a very boring place if no one had it.

Maybe you should put more thought into this one.

My next bet would be somebody sues the college because of after a year of trying to lose weight they actually gained because there's no scales.


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a reply to: Navieko

I am talking about a BMI machine and NO most people do not have one. To say I dont know what I am talking about? lofl, you dont know what IM talking about. A machine is much easier than the calipers or sitting in a tub of water to get your Body Fat. Its not easy to measure Body Fat.

The Machine does it all for you, you just enter in your weight and height. You can even put in ANY weight...it still gauges how much body fat your are losing.

And just as a scale, it should not be used more than 2-4 times a month. I suggest once.

A scale has NO place in a college or school. The reasons?...they are out-dated and cause unneeded stress. Stress packs on the pounds. If you think this does not affect you, then good for you, however, that does not mean you push it on others who may be unknowingly stressed at the sight of them. I bet you are pro-life too? am i right?

Anyways, you can do what you want, i will do what i want. We probably even do the same things. But Gyms no longer use scales (i was hoping mine did actually bc thats the only time i used to weight myself) and colleges shouldnt either, its not butthurt or liberal agenda, its new technology and keeping with the times.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: ketsuko

10-20 lbs may make a difference, but when you are thin and gaining weight bc you are making muscle, lol, no, that does not make a difference, lofl

if anything, it makes you more nimble to do the "flying" part of the routine.

Look.

I was an athlete in college. We all had different diets, training regimens, etc., depending on what our jobs were. Unless we were obviously overweight, they didn't do much weight checking on any of us. But we were track and field. No one was tossing us through the air and we only had to worry about carrying our own body mass.

However, if you listen carefully to sports commentary for football most of the time, especially when talking about defense and linemen, you will hear about this or that player needing to gain weight or even lose it because they weren't fast enough. There are sports where one's physical body mass is an important factor and a scale is an important tool.

Football players who aren't heavy or light enough can be benched because they aren't effective. They lose their edge. You can hear the same about basketball players too.

We runners seldom has weight issues. I actually did my freshmen year, but mine was being underweight. They did weigh me and start taking regular BMI. My metabolism didn't adjust to the training regimen, and I couldn't keep weight on no matter how much I ate. So they were monitoring me for health reasons. I almost had to stop training before the season ended. I was nearly 115lbs and well under 10% body fat for a women which is very low.

a reply to: veracity
You keep repeating the same mantra's but your still not getting it.

First of all I think you're confusing Body Mass Index with Body Fat Percentage. Learn more here.

Your BMI can be measured by:

1. Multiply your weight in pounds by 703.
2. Divide that answer by your height in inches.
3. Divide that answer by your height in inches again.

The only tool needed, apart from a calculator app on your phone, is a scale.

You make out as if they're an old out-dated technology that no gym uses anymore. I think you're maybe jumping the gun there with that assumption, as I'm pretty sure most gyms do still in fact have scales - and if not, more likely because anyone that frequents a gym and who has a clue will obviously have one in their own home.

At the end of the day though and in regards to the OP - what you're suggesting is to treat the symptom instead of the cause - akin to shoving a mess under the bed instead of cleaning the room, or continually taking pain killers for headaches as opposed to finding out why you're getting them and then fixing the underlying cause.

If someone is stressed by the mere sight of a scale, maybe it's because they know they have a lot more work to do? Maybe rather than stress about it, they should take on the challenge and confront the issue head-on? Don't you think that'd be a much healthier way to go about it? You don't think that'd make them all the stronger for it, both physically and mentally, afterwards? Simply getting rid of the scale is not going to make the underlying problem go away.

This is just common sense - and I'm baffled that we're even having this discussion!

a reply to: Navieko

what im saying is with new technology, ie,cellphones - pedometers, sleep patterns, calorie intake...more


There is no reason to keep old ones...scales...around.

I grew up with them, im not saying they are obsolete, but I do know that stress adds weight and using a scale everyday is stressful.

They are stressful and out of date...take them out of colleges. They are already on their way out of today's gyms.

BMI alone is not a good way to gauge weight loss. Sorry, i didnt do 45 mins of google searching before I posted, i never claimed to be perfect. Quit being triggered and nit-picky.

a reply to: ketsuko

please see my comment to Nav above.

I dont doubt scales are neccessary for some sports, just they are becoming out dated.

they should not be out in the open like when i was in college over 10 yrs ago.

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Navieko


They ARE useful but when you are trying to lose weight and you are lifting weights, then you will gain weight on the scale bc muscle weighs more than fat.

For real? lol It's calories in, calories out.

originally posted by: veracity
what im saying is with new technology, ie,cellphones - pedometers, sleep patterns, calorie intake...more


There is no reason to keep old ones...scales...around.

They said the exact same thing about screw drivers, when electric drills became common place.

Screw drivers are still found in every decent tradesman's kit.

Scales will always be present in athletics because it is simple and functional, just like screw drivers in trades.

originally posted by: RedDragon

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Navieko


They ARE useful but when you are trying to lose weight and you are lifting weights, then you will gain weight on the scale bc muscle weighs more than fat.

For real? lol It's calories in, calories out.

ummm...are we talking about the same thing here?

originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: veracity
what im saying is with new technology, ie,cellphones - pedometers, sleep patterns, calorie intake...more


There is no reason to keep old ones...scales...around.

They said the exact same thing about screw drivers, when electric drills became common place.

Screw drivers are still found in every decent tradesman's kit.

Scales will always be present in athletics because it is simple and functional, just like screw drivers in trades.

im not comparing apples to oranges or screws with scales. Im just saying that scales can be stressful, stress adds weight and that there are better ways to gauge weight these days.

They probably will never be obsolete, but not as necessary as they once were. This is NOT liberal agenda.

I hate the way us normal people have to have our lives made a little more rubbish in order to accommodate the psychologically unstable.

Some people want to weigh themselves at a gym, for instance when cutting weight, but oh no, some fatty who can't walk past a stack of donuts without eating twenty doesn't like to see scales in a gym so now they must be banned.

Its about time that society stopped making life worse for the majority to pander to a defective minority in such a way.

originally posted by: veracity
im not comparing apples to oranges or screws with scales. Im just saying that scales can be stressful, stress adds weight and that there are better ways to gauge weight these days.

It is apples to apples. New technology vs old technology.

They probably will never be obsolete, but not as necessary as they once were. This is NOT liberal agenda.

Actually, it is indeed a liberal agenda. Maybe you should read up on the story. An progressive "mind" in the athletics department had them removed, to push their prescribed agenda. They are currently debating whether to put them back, due to student backlash over said agenda.

CBC did a fairly decent piece on it.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
I hate the way us normal people have to have our lives made a little more rubbish in order to accommodate the psychologically unstable.

Some people want to weigh themselves at a gym, for instance when cutting weight, but oh no, some fatty who can't walk past a stack of donuts without eating twenty doesn't like to see scales in a gym so now they must be banned.

Its about time that society stopped making life worse for the majority to pander to a defective minority in such a way.

you are looking at it all wrong, and quite frankly, im not surprised.

Its not just "fat people", its very fit people as well.

So sorry you are so miserable to feel that way. Hey, if you are so miserable, why dont you just stay at home and get fat and dumb? No one can trigger you at home and you can be as hateful as you want.

originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: veracity
im not comparing apples to oranges or screws with scales. Im just saying that scales can be stressful, stress adds weight and that there are better ways to gauge weight these days.

It is apples to apples. New technology vs old technology.

They probably will never be obsolete, but not as necessary as they once were. This is NOT liberal agenda.

Actually, it is indeed a liberal agenda. Maybe you should read up on the story. An progressive "mind" in the athletics department had them removed, to push their prescribed agenda. They are currently debating whether to put them back, due to student backlash over said agenda.

CBC did a fairly decent piece on it.

progressive is not liberal, although, it is mainly liberals that want to progress and alt-right that wants to remain stagnant.

Also, just bc a "progressive mind" had the idea and implemented it, does not make it liberal agenda.

It just means that he was smart enough to progress. I guess all colleges and gyms are liberal agenda. Dont go to school or try to be fit bc...then you become a liberal.