the " alien selfie " debarcle - the implications of its veracity

ok - this thread is not aimed tio address anything about the alledge pic or the farce [ my opinion ] surround it

but rather - IF this tail is true - then what are the implications ?

this is an exercise in mental mastrubation really - but no one has [ to my knowledge ] actually thought through the notion of what it really means if this tail is not a hoax [ and i am not taking - revalation of extra terrestrial life ]

rather churlishly i am not going re-hash and list the claims made - that span ATS reddit and the chans

but go straight to the apex with [ to paraphrase ]

" saved downloads and screen caps [ of the alledged pic ] have been remotely deleted from computers world wide by " them ""

has that sunk in yet ????????????????

a reply to: ignorant_ape

" saved downloads and screen caps [ of the alledged pic ] have been remotely deleted from computers world wide by " them "" has that sunk in yet ????????????????

So why should I believe that ? Just 4chan nothing mooo.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

I think the notion that aliens exist is probably widely agreed on by now, but everyone just needs some vaidation. If its true that the pics are being deleted and this is not a hoax, that should be all the vindication we need imo.

a reply to: frenchfries

no where do i advise anyone to believe it - and further it should be bloody obviouis that i do not

but - please re - read what i wrote - it seems that you have failed to understand the premise of this thread - and who it is aimed at

It is easy enough to take a pic of the pic while onscreen that will kill the meta data trail and then upload it as something generic.

So I call BS because that is not a far stretch.

I call BS because people reported the picture file getting removed automatically. We all know that's not how a computer works. Only if it was hosted somewhere online and you didn't save it to your computer.

If this was true, the implications would be a true image that has been made public because of the nature of our modern digital living. There would be no way to stop spreading it. Simple.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

If you're online, the AI's have access to your computer.

As to the fore mentioned AI's, I greet you and mean you no harm.

Love,

DBC

This whole thing sounds like the Intelligence Community counter-pranking the 4chan'ers.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape

" saved downloads and screen caps [ of the alledged pic ] have been remotely deleted from computers world wide by " them "" has that sunk in yet ????????????????

Sure has. The idea is completely absurd.

People are acting as if this pic is something so very special that it had to be suppressed--this in the Age of Photoshop when literally ANYTHING can be rendered to "look real." It's like people seeing a light in the night sky, then go running around claiming "Aliens from space!" The reaction here is not justified from the source. It's just a picture. Everybody take a deep breath and relax. But, nooooo. NOW we are led to believe that the secret government is capable of deleting pictures from remote computers sight unseen. That's beyond absurd to the point of being laughable.

originally posted by: Jeronimo
I call BS because people reported the picture file getting removed automatically. We all know that's not how a computer works. Only if it was hosted somewhere online and you didn't save it to your computer.

If this was true, the implications would be a true image that has been made public because of the nature of our modern digital living. There would be no way to stop spreading it. Simple.

And the fact that code can be introduced into the "noise" of a gif or jpg, internally, means nothing to you?

I'm thinking an FTP session could be instigated with less than 25 words.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ignorant_ape

If you're online, the AI's have access to your computer.

As to the fore mentioned AI's, I greet you and mean you no harm.

Love,

DBC

You rock, bro!

originally posted by: ignorant_ape

" saved downloads and screen caps [ of the alledged pic ] have been remotely deleted from computers world wide by " them ""

I totally get your question... To paraphrase -- IF the 4chan report is true, and an authentic photo of an alien is being deleted by "THEM", how do we feel about that?

My answer?

Not good. if something like that were going on I think the implications are rather ominous for the Human Race.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The cencorship is real though, and from what I can gather, the instant removal of the allegded picture is too. Similarly to how big the thread on ATS has grown in a matter of hours, there's littereally thousands (if not thens of thousands) of comments of 4chan threads to browse through, in a matter of hours...

So either the CIA Psyop is real (there undeniable something going on), or an alium really posted a selfie on the interwebz for the lulz, with TPTB (likely CIA) covering it up.

Regardless, golden days for conspiracy theorists. When pretty much every conclusion u could draw over an issue involves a conspiracy in one way or another... Golden days!

I can agree that Echelon is watching us, but in no way can it interact with what I have stored. Specially if stored offline.

If something like this was possible we would already have ended child pornography.

If an alien picture gets digitized and spread among the Internet, it follows the exact same rules as any other picture digitally spread, once it's there you can't take it away, people have already saved it, take a screenshot and change the data as the poster above said.

a reply to: Vechthaan

Maybe the mods decided to finally prank the users.

It could always be a simple as that.

Free publicity!

So what happens if I took a picture of my screen with my mobil phone thats not connected to the internet
.. Would "they" come and take my old phone away ?

I think this is it.



I don't know what to make of it. But even now, new discussions about it on 4 chan get taken down one by one.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Oh right thy are.. misread by me , but stated as the obvious.

Poeh.... Soooo much fuss about nothing.

For as we all know aliens don't exist on ATS nor 4chan.

a reply to: schuyler

I'm pretty sure that the non-secret government can do whatever they want to the data on any of your devices, the secret government may have capabilities we can't even fathom. Here is a snippet from one reporter's (alleged) experience with this remote deletion of "data".

By September the book was going well – 30,000 words done. A Christmas deadline loomed. I was writing a chapter on the NSA's close, and largely hidden, relationship with Silicon Valley. I wrote that Snowden's revelations had damaged US tech companies and their bottom line. Something odd happened. The paragraph I had just written began to self-delete. The cursor moved rapidly from the left, gobbling text. I watched my words vanish. When I tried to close my OpenOffice file the keyboard began flashing and bleeping. Over the next few weeks these incidents of remote deletion happened several times. There was no fixed pattern but it tended to occur when I wrote disparagingly of the NSA. All authors expect criticism. But criticism before publication by an anonymous, divine third party is something novel. I began to leave notes for my secret reader. I tried to be polite, but irritation crept in. Once I wrote: "Good morning. I don't mind you reading my manuscript – you're doing so already – but I'd be grateful if you don't delete it. Thank you." There was no reply.

SOURCE - Writing the Snowden Files

originally posted by: reldra
I think this is it.

I don't know what to make of it. But even now, new discussions about it on 4 chan get taken down one by one.

First thing that popped in my head. The head supsiciously resembles an ape from our planet. Hmm.