Mysterious disappearances in Boston MA.

So a number of the cases show no signs of foul play and the following posts suggest a serial killer?

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Who is John Galt?

We are.

a reply to: caf1550

The cases can be interesting, and I have read the Missing 411 book that discusses this sort of disappearance. That said, I didn't find it nearly as compelling as his earlier books. For many of the cases - not all - it's likely that the person did, in fact, drown. Most were drinking (not all), and drunk young men will do some pretty crazy things. I know, when we were in Germany, guys would exit one popular club, drunk, and actually jump into the river on purpose. Literally, it was a game to many of them! Stupid, and very risky, but they'd do it, brag about it, share stories of hen this or that person did it, and what happened. I can easily imagine someone trying it alone, and drowning. Also, easy to imagine someone drunk, wandering lost, falling in by accident.

A few of the cases were, in fact, very odd, but most were not. The ones you list of of the odd sort! Foul play likely in many, of course, and just an unsolved crime. A few, no evidence of any crime, either, and no explanation. Those are the odd cases! I wish the author would spend more time on the details, and less collecting cases, honestly. In the "devil in the details" book, for example, we have no explanation at all for the history behind the place names!! I'd hoped for that, when buying the book.

There was one story, no link, sorry, but he disappeared *inside* a bar. CCTV shows him entering but never exiting.

Another story, a guy is seen on CCTV outside a store, and I believe he later broke into the store via a window, and then left a short while later.

They are almost all found in the water about a month later, in places that had been searched, with no clear cause of death. Their bodies aren't consistent with being underwater for the whole duration, but maybe a couple of days.

I haven't read Paulides's books but I've heard and read enough of his talks.

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Most of these cases fit the Missing 411 commonalities.

The cinderblock case could have been gang related.

I wonder if there was GHB detected during autopsy. Probably wasn't even screened for it.

The smashed phones, the internal injuries that cannot be explained, the seemingly sleep like trance walking into water point to something non-human imo.

originally posted by: brutus61
a reply to: caf1550

So what if anything do these guys have in common?

Most likely they are highly intelligent, may have a German heritage; I wonder if there is a commonality with their blood types myself?

a reply to: DaCook

A gay man from my town outside of Boston, who moved to Boston for school, died a few years ago, no explanation what so ever. But there was a rumor he was found in the Charles and it was being kept quiet. He was around 24-25.

Smiley Face Killings. en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: caf1550
Interesting how many have ties to the Navy, or contractors like Raytheon, or ended up in a Navy yard like #5. They'd surely be excellent swimmers and able to hold their breath for minutes, even if drunk. Being chained down, that's certainly not extraterrestrial protocol, right?

originally posted by: caf1550
Well you have to take into account they are all around the same age early to mid 20's minus one who is 49 and one who is 18.

18-49 just so happens to be standard military service age, mmk? Ultra serious here.

originally posted by: Ridhya
Interesting how many have ties to the Navy, or contractors like Raytheon, or ended up in a Navy yard like #5. They'd surely be excellent swimmers and able to hold their breath for minutes, even if drunk.

I don't know if you ever did but jumping into a river, drunk and with clothes on can be a hard thing to deal with. I did it once and although I was in no immediate danger (daylight, clear water and surrounded by people) I still kinda panicked because of the cold water and having problems with holding my breath.

Of course I wasn't in the Navy and I am by far not an excellent swimmer but still, I could see those men getting in trouble under these circumstances, especially when getting pushed or falling unexpectedly into the water.

originally posted by: Novaroc
Smiley Face Killings. en.wikipedia.org...

Huh, so this is where the TV show 'Mentalist' got its idea from. Interesting to know, thx



@OP: Thanks for bringing this to our attention, S + F.

Obviously this is a siren or mermaid luring young men to their death.

Strange indeed.

There's a similar story of young men drowning in Manchester in England. 61 deaths in the span of 9 years.

They think there may be a serial killer but there is no physical evidence of struggling with any of the victims so it's a bit strange.

M.E.N

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: caf1550


Most of these cases fit the Missing 411 commonalities.

The cinderblock case could have been gang related.

I wonder if there was GHB detected during autopsy. Probably wasn't even screened for it.

The smashed phones, the internal injuries that cannot be explained, the seemingly sleep like trance walking into water point to something non-human imo.

What internal injuries? They all found no injuries to suggest struggle or foul play. The deaths are random intervals, skipping lots of years bewteeen 03 and 16. It's probably drug related, or since they were all young men, hidden homosexual related. That's even being too skeptic, and you want to say aliens lol.

I love Paulides stuff too - very chilling. However in these instances in Boston, versus the other cases in the woods, I see more of a pattern of injections or something fairly untraceable being given before or during these young guys are in the bars or with friends drinking.

Could be paranormal or just some whack job that preys on young guys after he/she/it administers some sort of drug that they cannot identify in the autopsies. Maybe a pharmacist?

Thanks for the thread OP.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: caf1550


Most of these cases fit the Missing 411 commonalities.

The cinderblock case could have been gang related.

I wonder if there was GHB detected during autopsy. Probably wasn't even screened for it.

The smashed phones, the internal injuries that cannot be explained, the seemingly sleep like trance walking into water point to something non-human imo.

What internal injuries? They all found no injuries to suggest struggle or foul play. The deaths are random intervals, skipping lots of years bewteeen 03 and 16. It's probably drug related, or since they were all young men, hidden homosexual related. That's even being too skeptic, and you want to say aliens lol.

I was referring more to other cases that are in the Missing 411 books that show bruises on legs, inner thighs, head injuries with no bruising or cuts. In many of the cases the forensics don't match up with time in the water after death. Many still have hair, when after a time submerged in water normally drowning victims don't. The cellphones, the wallets- no robbery there.

I'm curious have you read any of the books?

Have you ever gone missing and cannot explain where you went, to return hours later missing your shoes? I have, and I was 12-13, didn't drink or use drugs. It also happened in the afternoon, and I was with a friend, and she went missing too.

The Hurley case is beyond strange and I don't believe he was drunk.

There is a case where a victim made a call to his wife, and you can hear him screaming, and something inaudible in the background before his phone goes dead and he goes missing. The Henry McCabe case.

Just saying not everything is always as it seems.

The first thing that came to mind was that we are talking about the ones reported and found.

How many may have gone missing that were never reported and never found?

The fact that so many of the bodies were found near or in water, is surely an important factor.

All reported were male. The age range is small. The area range is small, yet the areas were not really isolated areas.

I think it is time to put Nick Burkhardt and Hank Griffin on the case.

originally posted by: KTemplar

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: caf1550


Most of these cases fit the Missing 411 commonalities.

The cinderblock case could have been gang related.

I wonder if there was GHB detected during autopsy. Probably wasn't even screened for it.

The smashed phones, the internal injuries that cannot be explained, the seemingly sleep like trance walking into water point to something non-human imo.

What internal injuries? They all found no injuries to suggest struggle or foul play. The deaths are random intervals, skipping lots of years bewteeen 03 and 16. It's probably drug related, or since they were all young men, hidden homosexual related. That's even being too skeptic, and you want to say aliens lol.

I was referring more to other cases that are in the Missing 411 books that show bruises on legs, inner thighs, head injuries with no bruising or cuts. In many of the cases the forensics don't match up with time in the water after death. Many still have hair, when after a time submerged in water normally drowning victims don't. The cellphones, the wallets- no robbery there.

I'm curious have you read any of the books?

Have you ever gone missing and cannot explain where you went, to return hours later missing your shoes? I have, and I was 12-13, didn't drink or use drugs. It also happened in the afternoon, and I was with a friend, and she went missing too.

The Hurley case is beyond strange and I don't believe he was drunk.

There is a case where a victim made a call to his wife, and you can hear him screaming, and something inaudible in the background before his phone goes dead and he goes missing. The Henry McCabe case.

Just saying not everything is always as it seems.

That Henry case you can clearly hear him being tasered. Those sounds are exactly what a person sounds like being tasered. The imagination can run wild with monsters or aliens but it was the sounds of a guy being tasered. He was dropped off at a gas station alone.

Other vitcims were found with high levels of date rape drug in their bodies.

If they are related it is more logical to go with a murder ritual or initiation from some club because these happen across the nation to random people who are always alone.

Its the ghouls, duh. Ask Richard Pickman.

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a reply to: TinfoilTP


I've never heard anyone being tazed. Interesting possibilities and savagely sad if that were the case.

My situation was entirely different, and by water, in the woods.

I've never been to Boston, growing up in the Midwest my whole life. But I thought I'd briefly share a story of myself that is not hugely different from some of these cases. It may shed some light on some cases presented here, as to what happened, what the person was thinking, and why. Granted, some of the cases seemed weird or inexplicable - and definitely won't match up with my experience. This is mostly to say that some of the cases may match up to some degree.

The week after New Year's, roughly a decade ago, I went out with a bunch of friends for drinks during the university's winter vacation. I got pretty drunk and so did one of my buddies. So, rather than going home when most of the friends did, we decided to head to another popular bar at the far end of the street (roughly 8 long blocks?). Well, I was young enough then that I got ID'd pretty regularly at bars. And I realized that my wallet was missing. Figuring I left it at the last bar, I told my friend I'd be back in a bit.

Things start to get hazy at this point, because the alcohol was kicking in more and more. I vaguely remember reaching the bar and the people there said they hadn't seen it (I also checked with them the next day, no luck). Then I get a brown out in my memory...

Next thing I remember, I was in a wooded area in the opposite direction of my apartment. I was not too far from the lake (there are two in the area, but this one was the closest to the main bars in the area and university). It was like I snapped back into consciousness. I remember feeling scared s$%^less because I had the feeling I was about to die. I was probably 15 feet from the lake on a reasonably steep hill that made it easy to roll down into the lake if you tripped. What I was doing in the woods, I'll never know. What I do remember, however, is that my leg strength was completely gone. I "climbed" back up the hill by using my upper body strength and grabbed trees. For whatever reason, I had no leg strength for awhile and only upper body strength. After probably 20-30 minutes, I was near the top of the hill and the edge of the woods and seemed to recovery enough strength to get up and slowly hobble along. I remember all this the best because I just had the feeling the entire time that I was about to die and I think it helped imprint the memories better that the rest of the night.

I started heading back in the direction of my apartment (I thought). All the while, I was browning out. Random memories come and go during the next 20ish minutes. I ran into a group of people who obviously saw that I was not in good shape. I remember them helping me into a house and sitting me down in a chair and then leaving.

Well, I woke up in the morning to a woman at the door talking to some police. Turns out, I was trespassing. I had no wallet, so the police didn't trust that I was who I said or that I lived where I said. Strangely enough, the door wasn't broken. It wasn't breaking and entering, just trespassing (lucky for me, otherwise I would have needed to pay damages). It was all a bit surreal probably for everyone in that house. But because they could see I was still pretty hung over, they just gave me a trespassing ticket and drove me home. Before leaving, the officer asked me which direction I lived. I pointed in the completely wrong direction (and really thought so), and she corrected me. The officer didn't really trust that I was telling the truth, however, and wanted to see me enter the house. Luckily, I had my keys still, despite my wallet disappearing.

The point about all this is that you can get pretty drunk, leave things at who knows where, get confused, think you're traveling in the right direction, and end up in completely unexpected situations. This situation, hopefully, can shed some light on some of the cases presented in this thread where the individual was drinking. (It may not apply to those cases...but it just may also).