Do Trump's words matter?

The following quotes are very serious statements about the potential consequences of Trump's misstatements. The quotes concern the view of the Swedish people about Trump's recent comments concerning immigration in Sweden.

“We are used to seeing the president of the U.S. as one of the most well-informed persons in the world, also well aware of the importance of what he says,” Carl Bildt, a former prime minister of Sweden, said by email on Monday. “And then, suddenly, we see him engaging in misinformation and slander against a truly friendly country, obviously relying on sources of a quality that at best could be described as dubious.”

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“It begs the question of where the president gets his information as he articulates his administration’s global approach,” said Mark Brzezinski, the ambassador to Sweden under President Barack Obama. “To do so in an improvisational way, based on snippets picked up from cable news, is a major mistake and jeopardizes an international partnership that advances the American interest in so many ways.”

Trump, Ever-Loyal TV Viewer, Leaves Swedish Allies Feeling Abandoned

Trump supporters are downplaying every "mistake" and lie of the Trump administration. Both the Trump administration and Trump supporters want everyone to just accept all the "mistakes" and lies as if they never happened. Is that reasonable?

Trump and his supporters won't be everywhere around the world to bully any opposition into submission. For that reason, I believe Trump's words matter, and they will continue to matter.

a reply to: Profusion

Sweden is downplaying their immigration problem. Not only is it causing problems within their community in terms of violence and crime, but it's also draining their socialist economy.

Sweden could be a third world country soon if they don't address the issue soon. It sounds like they would rather deny reality, however. Sad. It used to be in my bucket list of places to one day visit.

if I was Sweden I would worry less about what trump says and more about all those muslim terrorists they have let into their country.

How come no one mentions this???

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

www.foxnews.com...

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originally posted by: JinMI
How come no one mentions this???

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

www.foxnews.com...

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Because it is Fox News and has been reported as false (Fake News) information.

a reply to: JinMI

I saw an ABC news report tonight that stated that the show Trump was watching on Fox was a "false report". Lol, the media is such a mess.

Sounds like the politicians in Sweden are controlled by the NWO/EU complex.

They seem to be having a heart attack about every little nit-picky thing lately.

originally posted by: ugmold

originally posted by: JinMI
How come no one mentions this???

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

www.foxnews.com...

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To each their own, but did you seek out to confirm or....?

Because it is Fox News and has been reported as false (Fake News) information.

a reply to: Profusion

Words matter anytime the president speaks. He represents the free world and his example of leadership is on view. He is the most important figure when people look for guidance, with the exception of maybe the Pope or the Queen.

a reply to: Profusion

I am neutral... I don't support or denounce Trump. As a neutral input, all I witness in verbal exchange are the words of someone who is not attached to the legacies/traditions of politics. The entire globe is watching, and the U.S. sets the economic relations curriculum. Of course foreign politicians will offer input as to how it relates to their position in the world economy.

Seeing things that way bleeds into seeing the whole scene as wanting change and unity for the right reasons, but people are getting hung up on words and fear the changes that are possible from it.

Everything matters these days to people... words/opinions as well. Debates should refrain from the speculative areas, and instead focus on actions that come of people.

I much prefer to hear things from the mouth or tweet directly, then to have the pre scripted speeches that we know of past.

Oh No... it's a big scary world of opinion outside the confines of MSM... that's all I see this hoopla of speculations to be.


Red and blue can't fix a thing... they need to move aside for things to be healed. That means... what comes out of their mouths is not to be trusted... or even validated as meaningful.

a reply to: Profusion

Does this post matter? To you maybe as your ideologies keep you in check. However for the rest of of us supporters whom voted him in on his merits (Yes)

So far AKA a few weeks in; he has done more of what he promised than any of the last 5 President's combined. Kinda of silly don't you think from your thread title? And Please just google Bush, Obummer, or any of the last 5 presidents for mistake after mistake, etc,etc.

"He is the son of Polish-born former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski"

I would be very wary of anything this guy has to say. He is not our friend.

He has different standards when talking to different audiences. Obviously a public speech to his supporters hold to a lower standard than a State of the Union address. 1 misspeak in an hour of talking is not that bad for a 70 years old guy.

a reply to: TruMcCarthy

Edit; Yeah, Brzewzinski is full blown NWO. Well spotted, I missed that part.

a reply to: Profusion

I am going to actually answer the question, rather than deflecting away from it with some nonsense about Sweden that someone heard on Fox News, the original fake news outlet.

Yes, Profusion, the words of the President of the United States matter. What he says to the people matters a great deal, because as the leader of what is laughably referred to as the free world, he is allegedly supposed to be interested in the truth, accuracy. These are what marked out the leaders of the free world in times past, from the leaders of ridiculous dictatorships like North Korea, who have told their people that their bellies are full, even as the people starve, who have told them that their freedom relies on the power of the state, even as they are funneled into labour camps over trifling "crimes".

This is why it is absolutely imperative for a western leader to be factually correct, that they do NOT get their information from Fox News or Infowars, or for that matter any of the more liberal media outlets, but direct from source, or from government information gathering professionals, dedicated to getting accurate, up to the minute data for the President and the various departments of government, to act upon.

At the moment, that is not the case. Mr Trump relies almost exclusively on media sources which have no reliability for accuracy or honesty, in order to inform him of events, rather than sources which do not automatically apply a phobic, hateful, twisted bias to every single article.

a reply to: Profusion

Yes. as the man who controls the nuclear arsenal, his words should matter. Unfortunately, he has squandered his credibility and brought his sanity into question. His supporters are blind to the fact that the United States and the world are facing the gravest crisis since 1972.

originally posted by: ugmold
Because it is Fox News and has been reported as false (Fake News) information.

You understand that, in the very story linked to (and that you seemingly didn't look at), the source for the information is the Swedish Police Authority--what you are doing is killing the messenger, which is a tired logical fallacy.

From the linked story:

Last month, the police chief for the southern Swedish city of Malmo issued a desperate plea for help curtailing a plague of attempted murders, beatings and rapes. About 32 percent of Malmo’s occupants are migrants, although it is not clear what role migrants play in the crime wave.

“We cannot do it on our own,” Chief Stefan Sinteus wrote in an open letter about the “upward spiral of violence.”

And Sinteus is not merely dealing with typical crimes that any modern city would witness.

Malmo had 52 hand grenade attacks in 2016 alone, a jump from 48 attacks in 2015, according to figures provided by the Swedish Police Authority.

However, it does bother me (as it would with any news report) when they don't link to the source, and just want us to take their word for it.

a reply to: Profusion

Yeah... Stupid is as stupid does... He's gonna bring WWW 3 to our doorsteps. Just wait and watch....