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RT to Trump: The Honeymoon is over.

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posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 07:48 AM
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Whether you think that the Kremlin's state controlled media was influential in the 2016 election or not, there is no question that they made their views well known. Constant criticism of Hillary Clinton and the third party candidates, words of praise for Trump. Here is an RT article from December, 2015, wherein Putin praises the American candidate:




Putin says ‘talented’ Trump is ‘absolute front-runner,’ welcomes pledge to work with Russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin has praised Donald Trump for wanting deeper ties with Moscow and described him as the “absolute front-runner in the presidential race.” Putin, however, said he was ready to work with whoever becomes the next US president.
"He is a very flamboyant man, very talented, no doubt about that... He is the absolute leader of the presidential race, as we see it today. He says that he wants to move to another level of relations, to a deeper level of relations with Russia. How can we not welcome that? Of course we welcome it," Putin said during his traditional end-of-year Q&A session with journalists.


Remember those days?

Note the flattering photograph.

Unfortunately, reality (as opposed to the alt-reality RT was founded to create) has started to intrude, and we now find RT running stories like this:




Trump expects Russia to ‘return Crimea' – White House

US President Donald Trump has been tough on Russia and expects Moscow to “return” the Crimea peninsula to Ukraine, the White House spokesman told reporters.
Addressing the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn – hounded by the media over his contacts with Russian diplomats prior to Trump’s inauguration – Spicer pointed out that Russia “seized” Crimea under the Obama administration and that the Trump-appointed ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has “strongly denounced the Russian occupation.”

[Edit for brevity. --DJW001]

Russian envoy Vitaly Churkin responded by citing the US Constitution and pointing out that Crimeans overwhelmingly voted to join Russia, after the US-backed coup in February 2014 overthrew the elected government in Kiev.


The way it will be. [Emphasis mine.]

Note the unflattering photograph. The article spends as much space defending Michael Flynn as it does defending Russia's claim to Crimea. Note that Russian officials are chastising Trump with the United States Constitution! There has clearly been a change in the winds blowing from Moscow.

For all of those readers who thought RT was objective and unbiased because they cover the truth the American media does not, you were mistaken. RT is just as biased as American media, it is just that their bias is explicitly anti-American. You see, the way to make a nation great again is to make other nations weak.

Here is a delicately nuanced article with more spin than a 78 rpm record:




Oil, gas companies no longer required to disclose taxes & fees paid to foreign govt’s

President Donald Trump has repealed the mandate for US oil and gas companies to report taxes and fees paid to foreign governments. The administration and Republicans claim the move will create jobs, but Democrats criticize the lack of transparency.
The Dodd-Frank Act signed by President Barack Obama in 2010 required the US Securities and Exchange Commission to write a transparency rule for fossil fuel, mining, and other extraction companies. That rule has now been overturned after Trump signed House Joint Resolution 41, passed by Congress earlier this month.

Up until Tuesday, oil and gas companies had been forced to reveal any production-related fees such as taxes paid to foreign governments. That rule was ditched via party-line votes in both the House and Senate. Senator Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) had argued that the rule was “essential to combating waste, fraud, corruption, and mismanagement.”


The way it is going to be. [Emphasis in the original!]

Note the unflattering photograph. This is a delicate matter for RT, since the law was intended to prevent oil companies from bribing officials in corrupt governments. Notice the use of the words "taxes" and "fees." Our new Secretary of State would never have bribed Russian officials, would he? There would only be the usual "taxes" and "fees" for doing business in Russia.


edit on 15-2-2017 by DJW001 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:22 AM
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Putin is an anti-globalist.

Trump is an anti-globalist.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


Russian President Vladimir Putin has praised Donald Trump for wanting deeper ties with Moscow and described him as the “absolute front-runner in the presidential race.”


Funny thing how Putin called it right when all of the pretty people on TV were talking about how Trump did not have a chance.

Putin is no fool, and (love him or hate him) Trump is no fool either.


. “At the same time, he fully expects to – and wants to – get along with Russia. It is in the national and economic interest of the US to have a good relationship with Russia, Spicer explained, "


You seemed to conveniently leave that part off of your OP.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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Your premise is only true because the dossier is real. The squeeze has started for Trump. It's now play or pay. So ironic. I think one day historians will look back at this era in wonder at the epic failure of the U.S. media and at the absolute diabolical tactics of Russians. I hope at least because, of course, the victor gets to control the narrative.

I sincerely hope ATS members put their tin foil hats back on and stop being used to prop up what is clearly being revealed to be a "Manchurian Candidate"
edit on 2/15/2017 by kosmicjack because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:35 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

So what? Off course they are going to report news from their perspective.

Is this your moment of victory or something? Are you happy that the American/Russian relationship has worsened, in your eyes at least.

I thought you'd be happy that Trump actually said something about Crimea, since you guys were always on about that.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: kosmicjack

What are you talking about?



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Nice spin.

Putin just welcomed the chance to open dialogue with the west. Considering the torrent of rhetoric in the main stream media and the recent resignation of Flynn for "talking to Putin" ( oh, the horror), its only too obvious the bias against both men.

Talking is better than shooting, derp.

Cue the warmongers...



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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Trump got his 19.5% stake in Rosneft but didn't lift the sanctions because Flynn got caught and the press unraveled the whole scheme. Obviously Russia is pissed, that 19.5% stake is in the $20 Billion range.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: intrptr




Considering the torrent of rhetoric in the main stream media and the recent resignation of Flynn for "talking to Putin" ( oh, the horror), its only too obvious the bias against both men.


Flynn makes a phone call to Russia and is forced to resign.

Hillary misses a call from Libya and was up for a promotion just three months ago.

Oh the irony.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Trump supports Israel and Saudi Arabia and Iran just found 30 billion barrels of oil,can you guess what happens next.

Meet the new boss,same as the old boss.

The Neocon plan continues.

Yeah Trump the Exxon Mobil-Goldman Sachs anti globalist..pass the Kool Aid



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: Cancerwarrior

Putin is no fool, and (love him or hate him) Trump is no fool either.







I'll give you Putin - the guy's a lot of things, cold blooded killer among them, but a fool he is not. But if Trump isn't a fool, then he's been going out of his way for years to act like one.

I see him as a guy who through winning the genetic lottery lucked into a very privileged place in society and coasted from there. He's not particularly intelligent, just fortunate. He has a certain flair for manipulation and could maybe be described as clever in the same way a jackal is clever, but he's no great thinker. Just listen to him speak - there's no coherency, he's all over the place mentally.
edit on 2/15/2017 by Monger because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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What a FAKE title. President Trump never had a honeymoon. He never expected to have one.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: Monger
Trump got his 19.5% stake in Rosneft but didn't lift the sanctions because Flynn got caught and the press unraveled the whole scheme. Obviously Russia is pissed, that 19.5% stake is in the $20 Billion range.


Did you just make that up or is this based on something?



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DJW001


Cue the warmongers...


Yeah, here they are:

www.theguardian.com...
www.businessinsider.com...
www.thedailybeast.com...
www.counterpunch.org...



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: TheSpottedOwl

Smoke meet fire.

www.businessinsider.com...
www.businessinsider.com...
www.reuters.com...
www.dailykos.com...

Is it going to stand up to a Trump supporters rigorous Pizzagate level of proof? Probably not. But to me it's pretty clear.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: Monger




I'll give you Putin - the guy's a lot of things, cold blooded killer among them


I find it funny how people who bring this up totally ignore this little gem....

www.washingtontimes.com...



But if Trump isn't a fool, then he's been going out of his way for years to act like one.


Right.

Because only a fool can be as successful as he has been. Only a fool can raise his kids to be decent people. Only a fool can have a TV show, with consistently high ratings, running for 14 years. Only a fool can run a marathon of a Presidential campaign leaving everyone in the dust, and against all the naysayers pull off becoming President.

Yup, he must be a total fool alright.

"Watch, listen and learn. You can't know it all for yourself. Anyone who thinks they do is destined for mediocrity."

-DJT



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: khnum


Trump supports Israel and Saudi Arabia and Iran just found 30 billion barrels of oil,can you guess what happens next.

Whether he personally does or not, he better state he supports the status quo publicly or that would be it. He's not stupid. Neither is he going to actually do anything about the current direction this country is on, imo.

He can't, the pit of vipers up there on the hill is too entrenched. He is getting to know that. Prior, during his campaign he made sounds about changing things (hope and change) or making america great again. We both know ultimately one man can't hope to drain the swamp when he's up to his ass in Alligators.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

'Can't get fooled again'.

Thanks for the reminder.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
Talking is better than shooting, derp. Cue the warmongers...

Derp is forgetting who and what Putin is! You think you rise to the head of the KGB by being the most honest guy in the room? You looking for a guarantee of 'peace in our time'? That card was played a long time ago.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
a reply to: Monger




I'll give you Putin - the guy's a lot of things, cold blooded killer among them

Only a fool can run a marathon of a Presidential campaign leaving everyone in the dust, and against all the naysayers pull off becoming President.


Losing the popular vote by over 3 million is leaving everybody in the dust? The marathon campaign where he'd ramble at starstruck hicks as they chanted idiotic things at him? K.

Trump was born into his success. You can choose to see that as an admirable trait, I don't.
edit on 2/15/2017 by Monger because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: Cancerwarrior
a reply to: intrptr




Considering the torrent of rhetoric in the main stream media and the recent resignation of Flynn for "talking to Putin" ( oh, the horror), its only too obvious the bias against both men.


Flynn makes a phone call to Russia and is forced to resign.

Hillary misses a call from Libya and was up for a promotion just three months ago.

Oh the irony.

Washington district voted 94%(?) for Hillary.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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I thought Trump was a Russian puppet .. why would he say such things of his overlords?



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