Why isn't anyone on ATS following the money re: last 4 presidents

a reply to: Wookiep

No we're not screwed! X means Christ and Ten Binary. Oh here's a cool scenario... we were planted here by aliens right? And.. We're about to unlock the secrets of the Matrix (the actual version) and discover a rip in the fabric of time, thus escaping our otherwise very wrong demise. Which won't happen! because, I just know, and it's classified. haha.

a reply to: LuXTeN

LOL! Maybe!

Maybe Kid Rock is the answer though! He's a Gen Xer!

a reply to: Wookiep

OH HELL the crazy part is i could almost imagine him as President in 2024 lol! ACK! my brain just melted haha.

btw Kid Rock is ok with me!

a reply to: LuXTeN

Hahaha Good times.

a reply to: Wookiep

lol damn good times, especially that halloween party from 1987 ish haha oh boy

originally posted by: chaeone86
What is most frightening about where we are: if two seemingly intelligent people cannot agree on facts first, how will they ever build consensus in the face of subjective disagreement? This is intellectually impossible. This is what scares me so fully recently.

Hopefully getting back on topic here, this is something you wrote to another poster.

I think the whole issue is that we're in a post fact world. This isn't something exclusive to Trump, though it's gotten worse since he entered the narrative. People aren't turning to the media for the truth anymore, or to their FB friends, or to forums, or to whereever they get information. People are turning to these outlets for confirmation. Confirmation doesn't challenge you, instead it's positive reinforcement that your own world view is correct, regardless of the reality of the matter.

People no longer care about facts. They care about being told they're right, because being right confirms an innate grasp of the issues at hand. There's very few these days who are willing to challenge their own preconceptions and accept that they might be wrong.

For decades now we've distilled facts into spin, and to use more recent terms, spin into alternative facts. Not just on one side, but on all sides. Then, to make the process even worse, we present these alternative facts in an entertaining medium where people are more receptive to them. As if that weren't enough, we then take these lies (err sorry... alternative facts) and distill rooting for them into a team sport, and with the way things are going a blood sport before much longer.

If you apply the idea of following the money to this, and given the amount of money that flows into obfusicating things, I have to assume it's the elite families who run the banks among other institutions that are behind it. They've successfully moved politics, finance, and practically every other aspect of how the world actually functions, behind an iron curtain where the public has no input, and cannot comprehend how things work.

originally posted by: whismermill
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I'm wondering how manufactured the bipartisanship really is. Divide a country and it can easier be manipulated

Which is happening before our very eyes.

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: BlackboxInquiry

Did you hear about the 5 year ban on lobbyism in Washington and the lifetime ban on international lobbyism at the pres conference today? I think that is GREAT news! Although you may have not have heard about it because the media is too busy trying to start a civil war.

AWESOME!!!!!

This is an excellent OP. Thanks.

I have some serious points to make with regards to moving forward:

To the OP - how about you use your knowledge of the financial industry to post regular bulletins on developments in that area? It would be far easier for you to inform interested parties on ongoing evidence of the workings of big finance than it is for people like me to wade through the hundreds of different websites and online publications that host articles on the topic AND UNDERSTAND THE RELEVANT INFORMATION WHILST ALSO ADDING THIS TO THE BIGGER PICTURE. If that makes sense?

Why was this thread derailed by off-topic nonsense by two posters in particular?

Regarding ATS, I joined a few months ago. There is an unfortunate number of idiotic posts, many of which relate to Trump/Clinton and the irrelevant distinctions between them. However, posts like this and some others do show that there are plenty of people there who have the ability to put forward important information and ideas based on particular areas of knowledge and expertise. With this in mind, anybody else who has read this post and recognised its utility and who has something to add in other specialist areas (from military to geopolitics to media control to so on etc) please get posting.

I might even make a post myself. Have been finding an awful lot of info on parts of the middle east recently, which of course is inextricably linked to the control centres of the West.