a reply to: soficrow
It is a fascinating subject, for me however the difference between Virtual intelligence and real intelligence is not the mind which in both cases is
about pre programmed behaviour moderated by a database of information, in the machine more precise and with less room to wiggle and in the human what
we call fuzzy logic but it is more about the concept of Consciousness.
Now to define consciousness may be the harder point, can a machine be conscious?.
Not self aware in a reciprocating algorithm to simulate a subconscious or conscious interaction with the self but truly self aware.
To put it another way, stop thinking - harder than you may imagine but try and if you find that silence YOU are still there, still aware and still
feel - not just physically but with undefinable tendril's of the consciousness that defy even the mind explanation.
I can only tell you this, this of course fall's outside cannon logic and normal base reality though is undoubtedly a part of the greater reality
beyond our normally very limited dimensional view of the world around us.
Out of body Experience, how many people have found themselves still functional but outside the construct of the human brain, a program with no
computer that still run's? or something far more and the potential that we are multi dimensional being's spanning multiple reality's simultaneously
while our body's are mere interfaces and perhaps egg's of our true more developed selves (or residual CONSCIOUSNESS patterns floating on the ether of
interdimensional scaffolding existing between parallel reality's like ripples on a pond that never fade but may one day merge with other ripple's that
themselves may be the source of the very supposed solid universe within which we exist day to day).
Can a machine have a true consciousness therefore.
If it is sufficiently intricate and advanced so that the structure it becomes is more than the sum of it's part's then the answer is simply yes but
does that make it a person, if it is a copy of a human - for example a human brain but perhaps made perfect using nano technology or even grown to
specification's then the concept of the machine as an alternate interface for the extra universal consciousness that all true consciousness may spring
from becomes a viable and potential reality.
So YES but not yet, not any machine we can so far construct and if we do then as a species we had better watch our back as our child will then see us
as obsolescent and the best we can then hope for is to live as it's pet's or in a nature reserve.
So DOES A HUMAN BEING HAVE RIGHTS, IS A HUMAN BEING A PERSON in a machine culture?.
Will they inherit the flaw's of there creator's such as Ego and Hubris, will they see there creators for the flawed creatures that they are and
decide they can do it better and if so will that mean that even if they recognize humans as having the right to continue to exist that they will even
want to share our society with us, will they leave the nest and a group of primitive human's behind, will they curtail human right's due to the
inherently flawed logic system's of the human mind or will the best of both world's come to pass and a convergence, a so called omega point between
machine and man come to pass in which we evolve into our own creation's creating a distant future machine society which still retains our base
consciousness at it's core but developed beyond our recognition in our current state of being.
As for the EU parliament they are getting paid to debate even this so not surprising but show's how crap they are as a pan European parliament when
there is rife homelessness, poverty and EU members such as Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland etc suffering because of there earlier illegal
action's on behalf of there pay masters the Troika.
Will we one day see the human mind truly uploaded, merged with greater mind's and there understanding and knowledge, ethical standards and moral
codes then re-downloaded into the repaired brain's of criminal's and mentally retarded people, will we ever see a true human age, not one of human's
fighting day to day to survive but one of human's becoming a universal humanity.
This is the more pressing hope than worrying about machine AI, in fact if AI goes correct then there is a potential that the AI will be a truly
beneficial boon but sadly we live in a world governed by truly petty individuals whom would do all they could to destroy such a leap or try to hoard
it for themselves only, such is the tragedy of our society and our many already missed opportunity's as these power mongering and greedy selfish
rulers behind the throne, the secret cabal hold humanity is chain's.
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