Liberals Want You to Die if You Disagree with Them

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: jellyrev

It's not the fault of the OP to use the term people call themselves. It's the fault of progressives to think they are liberals.

But do they "really" think they are liberal?

If so, I don't think they know what the word means.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope


I will not do what you tell me to do.

Yes that's right. Continue the hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance. That's much better.

I just doubt your "group" is liberal in any way shape or form. You're liberal in name only, and are angry with the use of the term.

Let's switch to progressive then. I'm a progressive, yet I have never punched anyone, burned anything or wished death on anyone. Maybe the OP should have said there's a basket of progressives who do that, but the rest are peaceful and passionate about equal and fair treatment. I can pretty much guarantee progressives wouldn't have a problem with that statement. It's basically what Hillary said about Trump supporters with her basket comment that triggered them so completely.

a reply to: DBCowboy

They are leftists who want to destroy the US. They want open borders, a socialist/communist government, they want anything that offends them banned, including speech.

You're just as wrong as the OP and you refuse to discuss this when confronted. Really, at some point you ought to put up proof that all Leftists hate America and want to destroy the Constitution or you should stop making the claim. Where's your integrity?

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I agree that the leftist are a huge problem and they are a better fit for the title of the story. That being said, the left has perverted the liberal ideology.

If you think that there are not leftist (wrongly ID'ed in the story as some liberals) that want to do you harm, go to a demonstration (riot) for immigrant (illegal aliens) rights with a Trump shirt on.
You will reach your medical deductible in 3, 2, 1...

And even as that may be, what about being a liberal here, at ATS. Watch the way those who say they are conservative bash any one who disagrees with them. Those people revel in making up new vitriolic things to call those they disagree with. You know the list. And for those who do not have enough creativity in themselves to make up new names to call, so many of them are content to just pick up some that they have heard and chant them over and over through out the threads.

And sure, it is a far cry from calling names and pronouncing worst wishes for those they despise on the internet and those who would attack someone for wearing a trump shirt, but even that is not as universal an action as 'absolutist conservatives make it out to be.

Just because some conservatives denounce anyone who they think as being to the left of them as terrible liberals and at the same time some liberals call anyone who they think as being to the right of them as terrible conservatives, does not give us cause to denounce ALL people on either side.

Our true struggle seasonal, is not with the other ideology. It is with absolutism, which when coupled with power leads to authoritarianism which in the hands of any governing body leads to totalitarianism. That is our struggle, left AND right.

a reply to: kaylaluv

No one said all liberals nor all progressives. I'm not sure why the general outrage in this thread is so concerned with how the OP decided to use the term, but I imagine progressive ideals has a lot to do with it. Certainly you don't want him to die because you disagree, but the anger is nonetheless palpable.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: amazing

Yet you respond......

And your thread IS the problem with America. Stereotyping and Division. Just like all Conservatives are rednecks with pick up trucks. We know this is not the case.

Um of course I respond? To point out how we need to come together and stop stereotyping each other? Yes?

a reply to: Kali74

I've given repeated examples.

Those that wish to ban speech they deem offensive
Those that wish to simply ignore or eliminate the Electoral College
Those that want the 2nd Amendment gone
Those that want to eliminate the Constitution in favor of another type of government

These are people that want to get rid of the Constitution.

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: DBCowboy

Me too. And I'm not even American. So much division. A group of people (extremists) stole the liberal moniker.

Lol, you'd make a good Canadian liberal.

* The ones that are still normal - you seem relatively normal

Actually, no. Starting back in the McCarthy era, the right wing insisted on the label encompassing everything left of center so that people like you would be lumped in with people like the Weathermen (a far Left terrorist group). It continues today.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Holy circular logic, Batman.

Did you miss that comment (that you replied to) about how it's not only entirely possible but highly likely that the OP thinks all liberals are bad, based off OP's own comments?

No, you didn't miss it you're just ignoring it because it's inconvenient to your "argument." Acting as if you've never seen the "liberalism is a mental disease" type comments on here is infantile.

You're better than that dude. Or used to be, anyway.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: jellyrev

It's not the fault of the OP to use the term people call themselves. It's the fault of progressives to think they are liberals.

But do they "really" think they are liberal?

If so, I don't think they know what the word means.

I think they think they are liberals by name and tribe only.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: jellyrev

It's not the fault of the OP to use the term people call themselves. It's the fault of progressives to think they are liberals.

But do they "really" think they are liberal?

If so, I don't think they know what the word means.

I think they think they are liberals by name and tribe only.

All I know is....Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Liberal?

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you're upset at the words used it is because you reacted to them. Liberalism champions the right to free expression. I don't see that in your comment.

Oh dear. What a bunch of nonsense weasel words. A reaction is neutral... it can be good, bad or indifferent. As in being "upset." I wasn't upset because I reacted... Being upset is my reaction.

And as far as that right to free expression, what you "don't see" in my comment is any effort to silence the OP, or in any way, shape or form deny the OP the right to free expression. Which, of course, goes both ways, as I exercised my right to free expression in response. That's how it works.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Those are not examples, they are categories, you have yet to find or post a large sampling of people to fill those categories.

originally posted by: RainbowPhoenix
Conservatives know they would at least smirk if Diane Feinstein spontaneously combust and liberals would cheer out loud if Mitch Mcconnell got hit by a bus.

See what you did there?

Now I can't figure out which side of the aisle I belong to.

It's a good light sabers don't require an edge, but can still cut in every direction.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Holy circular logic, Batman.

Did you miss that comment (that you replied to) about how it's not only entirely possible but highly likely that the OP thinks all liberals are bad, based off OP's own comments?

No, you didn't miss it you're just ignoring it because it's inconvenient to your "argument." Acting as if you've never seen the "liberalism is a mental disease" type comments on here is infantile.

You're better than that dude. Or used to be, anyway.

You stated it isn't always expediency, but refused to say what it was because it was inconvenient to your argument. Then went on a tangent about people saying all when clearly no one was. I avoided nothing.

What bothers me the most in all of this, is the level of divisiveness we've managed to achieve. I've never witnessed such polarization in all my years on this rock.

Maybe if the right would stop with the butthurt snowflake remarks, and the left would stop wearing vagina hats and calling the right bigots, both sides would be more open to hearing what the other side is saying.

At this point, when either side opens their mouths, the other side seems to instantly glaze over, and immediately launch right into whichever script applies.

The right could say the sky is blue, and the left would spaz out, saying its a lie.

The left could say we all need oxygen to live, and the right would cry foul, saying the butthurt is strong.

It's a no win at this point, and it will stay that way, until both sides grow the hell up.

A house divided cannot stand.

Side note: I have to wonder what sorts of things are being signed off on by the adults, while the children are busy bickering...

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you're upset at the words used it is because you reacted to them. Liberalism champions the right to free expression. I don't see that in your comment.

Oh dear. What a bunch of nonsense weasel words. A reaction is neutral... it can be good, bad or indifferent. As in being "upset." I wasn't upset because I reacted... Being upset is my reaction.

And as far as that right to free expression, what you "don't see" in my comment is any effort to silence the OP, or in any way, shape or form deny the OP the right to free expression. Which, of course, goes both ways, as I exercised my right to free expression in response. That's how it works.

That's what I'm saying was the problem, your emotional reaction to the words, not him writing the words.

a reply to: daryllyn

Agreed. Name calling is the basest form of propaganda. Let's not fall for it.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you're upset at the words used it is because you reacted to them. Liberalism champions the right to free expression. I don't see that in your comment.

Oh dear. What a bunch of nonsense weasel words. A reaction is neutral... it can be good, bad or indifferent. As in being "upset." I wasn't upset because I reacted... Being upset is my reaction.

And as far as that right to free expression, what you "don't see" in my comment is any effort to silence the OP, or in any way, shape or form deny the OP the right to free expression. Which, of course, goes both ways, as I exercised my right to free expression in response. That's how it works.

Anyone who has responded to the thread is replying with emotional responses except for Les.

Les doesn't have emotions. He's pure logic, and never wrong.

We're just helpless peons who can't think for ourselves and resort to emotion based comments.

But when other posters reply to the thread, the same principle doesn't apply.

Holy circular logic, Batman is correct.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: kaylaluv

No one said all liberals nor all progressives. I'm not sure why the general outrage in this thread is so concerned with how the OP decided to use the term, but I imagine progressive ideals has a lot to do with it. Certainly you don't want him to die because you disagree, but the anger is nonetheless palpable.

Yes, the anger is palpable - the OP seems pretty angry. Me? I'm just frustrated with the threads that are clearly meant to divide us.

By the way, did you catch that the OP fell for my non-generalization use of the word conservatives in my statement of racists, bigots, etc., and he had the audacity to recommend I put "some" in front of it? Unbelievable.