911 Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Eddie Bravo

Peeple you may just not be used to this kind of a format. I started listening to Joe a long time ago and was turned off by him at first. He was a lot different then and (I think) more mature now but still, may just need some getting used to.

Not every topic covered in this is my cup of tea, but I think it's a great conversation with some great minds overall.

I do find Eddie's interruptions to be sometimes annoying but he just seems less informed on some of the conversation topics than Alex or Joe, understandably. I do like that they don't necessarily knock him for being sort of obsessed with asking about chemtrails lol, but rather they lead the conversation into wider territory instead.

a reply to: Reverbs

You might have noticed it took me a while to come up with an answer. But I do believe that a plan for after the revolution might be vital before you declare anyone or group of people the enemy. (That's clearly not talking about pedophiles. That's a zero tolerance thing in any healthy society.)

And what I found the most shocking and what repulsed me from the video has nothing to do with the 3 boys, or you, my little mind had issues contemplating the fact how many people believe him.
That's besides all true or not questioning a massive amount of people questions their state. Really massive and that's a very bad, dangerous thing.
Not because I think things should stay the way they are. (Anywhere, not just the US.) But this is a scenario where messed up politics made you global enemy number one. You will splinter inside into so many groups, it will be dust not shards.

Ironically without an ideal, a plan that unites under the promise of a better future, Alex Jones seduces his audience into meaningless suicide.
I don't like that.

a reply to: Peeple

originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat

Relax. Calm down. Someone had to point it out to me, so what's the harm in "paying it forward"? It was a piece of friendly advice.

Great, she's your friend. You can read her thoughts...there's a TnC about a post/reply offering no substance - she can send you a PM if it's paramount you know she saw the thread, or better comment on it as the TnC clearly articulates. Jump down off that high horse, again, it was a piece of friendly advice. (now, where's that histrionic 'eye roll' emoji you used....?)

you do realize at no point was I being mean. I was explaining the situation to you. You do need to calm down not me lol.
re read what I wrote it's facts. No emotion.

I even used a face to show I was being silly.

even starred your post...

don't project on me.

Irony
you cannot call another persons post off topic if you do not address the topic at hand can you?

you should check out the video if you like.

I took what you said as friendly and responded friendly. Everything's ok.

No projection, no irony. I should have left the reply at the first paragraph and acquiesced from the content of the second; however, it was nothing more than a piece of friendly advice concerning the "Subscribe" button, as the poster's remark was in totality about the thread showing up in their "myATS". You - the reply of your's was very transparent - made the mistake of assuming it was anything other than friendly advice and that doesn't (and shouldn't with anyone) sit well with me, when there was nothing to it more than a helpful hint.

You went there unnecessarily. Why? I don't know. Why did you suggest anyone was projecting on you, when in fact it was mostly tongue-in-cheek with the necessary equivocation of the TnC that speaks to minimal post content? Why do you think they made a "Subscribe" button (hint: for the EXACT reason the poster remarked and the reason I spoke to the TnC governing said circumstance)? Do you honestly mean that you were being silly? Is "being silly" not bourn of emotion? Why bother addressing me when I was simply offering a piece of advice that will be useful to the poster in the future? My original reply to the poster was a heads up. It read in full as: "That's what the "Subscribe" button is for at the top and bottom right of each page - thread will show up in your "myATS".

Explain to me what your purpose was in responding to a comment that was not addressed to you and in no way, shape, or form could be interpreted as anything but a piece of advice. Where in that comment is snark, baiting, disrespect, or in anything that could be portrayed as such outside of a piece of friendly advice? There isn't. And your reply wasn't needed or called for. Do you have a problem with giving out board/forum advice in a respectful manner (remember, I went so far as to point out where the poster could find the "Subscribe" button and that it would do exactly what they were looking to do: have the thread show up in their "myATS")?

Sure, it's all "ok", when the entirety of your response was to equivocate your response by suggesting someone was projecting on you (you, just like me, are simply an avatar and screen name on my computer screen and, by no means, commiserate with the effort it would take to 'project', so scrub that nonsensical notion from your grey matter) and completely missing the mark with your assertion of irony -- what I said would have to be ironic and the ensuing comment was an abridged version of the TnC governing post content, which was the subject of the discussion. That irony is obviously lost on you, but I am not here to point out irony or make unfounded assumption, I was here to read the thread and offered pertinent advice, which you made an issue because...well, I have no idea, but it apparently triggered you and gave you an opportunity to chime in unnecessarily.

And the "re read what I wrote it's facts. No emotion." part, immediately followed by "I even used a face to show I was being silly." part, is ironic. There's your irony. Unless you can't answer the question in the top part of this post asking about being silly being bourn of emotion. Don't be silly, in this very instance it was bourn emotion -- I would wager a good amount the root of emoji (that little thing that was a face showing you were being silly is an emoji) is emotion.

Now, that is out of the way, lets get back to why you even responded to my comment in the first place. Why? As pointed out numerous times - demonstrated quite clearly in the response/reply itself - I was passing along a piece of advice that I received in very like-minded manner; no one in the thread that I was given this piece of advice jumped in to say a word and I thanked the individual for pointing out the "Subscribe" button. Something doesn't add up if you were being 'friendly'. Friendly would have been something along the lines of, "hey man, thanks for pointing that out to her, she digs my threads/comments and I appreciate you not being condescending or off-putting because that can happen around here when others believe they're 'X, Y, and/or Z' in relation to other posters...". That's not what happened and you used an emoji to convey part of your point, when, in fact, your claim is you weren't interjecting any emotion in responding.

I'm not an agitator or trouble-maker, as I enjoy ATS and naively assume that others will see that and respond in-kind. That's not what you did. I responded to an unnecessary reply of your's (I own it -- should have let you get off in responding to me for whatever unnecessary reason and kept my fingers off the keyboard) and was quite clear in my intentions of the advice proffered, but own the fact that the second part of the reply was unnecessary in the sense of avoiding undue conflict. I own it. It was unnecessary. The fact still remains, I offered a piece of advice that had no ill will and you jumped in to say what you said for reason(s) that remain unclear. It included emotion. It had no rhyme or reason (unless you accept that it was to antagonize, which seems to be the likeliest of scenarios). And then, when I responded to your unnecessary reply (again, I own it that I should have acquiesced from the second paragraph and in a perfect world, simply let you get off for whatever reason(s) you were compelled to respond to a comment that wasn't addressed to you) you started in with the assertion of pop-psychology-101-projection onto you and missed the mark with an attempt to point out irony where there was none (follow the bread crumbs of the replies and it quickly becomes obvious that there is no irony in pointing out the TnC governing minimal post content -- heck, I'll spell it out for you: the original reply was advice that would help in the future [e.g. marking a thread so that it shows up in one's myATS] and would eliminate the possibility that in the future a moderator removes a post for saying, "just replying with no substance so thread shows up in myATS").

Get back to me about why it is you responded in the 1st place if there was no emotion involved, you were being friendly, and last, but not least, the reason you felt it necessary to tell me what you believed the poster's intentions were and how it furthers the discussion, when it was clear it was friendly advice.

Cheers.

originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat

Relax. Calm down. Someone had to point it out to me, so what's the harm in "paying it forward"? It was a piece of friendly advice.

Great, she's your friend. You can read her thoughts...there's a TnC about a post/reply offering no substance - she can send you a PM if it's paramount you know she saw the thread, or better comment on it as the TnC clearly articulates. Jump down off that high horse, again, it was a piece of friendly advice. (now, where's that histrionic 'eye roll' emoji you used....?)

you do realize at no point was I being mean. I was explaining the situation to you. You do need to calm down not me lol.
re read what I wrote it's facts. No emotion.

I even used a face to show I was being silly.

even starred your post...

don't project on me.

Irony
you cannot call another persons post off topic if you do not address the topic at hand can you?

you should check out the video if you like.

I took what you said as friendly and responded friendly. Everything's ok.

I am subscribed (there's that word) to JRE's youtube channel. Didn't watch the entirety of AJ and Joe, but I have watched a many of JRE's webcast and liked most of them. Glad Redban is gone. Always love it when Joe has Graham Hancock or Sam Harris on. Big UFC fan, so I hear a good bit of Rogan commentating and doing his podcast/webcast...I find Joe to be really interesting and see the world much like he does. Hopefully, he doesn't throw in the towel on his UFC gig (he said he would be around for another year, but the 3-man team they had at UFC 208 gives me the impression he is on his way out...sooner rather than later). At any rate, Alex and Joe are prone to hyperbole and so this webcast, in particular, was too long and I can only take so much hyperbolic rhetoric before I tap out -- I tapped out after about the hour and 15 min mark on this JRE.

I will say this regarding Alex Jones: he's no snowflake and his influence in the Trump administration is more than just the tangential 'alt-right' news angle. The Washington Post has went so far as to name him and Infowars as being an impetus to the voter fraud issue the Trump administration was/is pushing and that has to be a real feather in his cap. I, honestly, am happy for Alex (whether I agree with him or not about some of the claims on Infowars) finally getting the cache he has long deserved, IMO, for exposing legit conspiracies. The #pizzagate scandal not being a scandal, but rather a slight of hand to throw the dogs off the trail was interesting - and plausible - as I viewed the Ben Swann piece on the local ATL CBS News outlet that attempted to give legs to an investigation that, at this point, seems to be just as Alex suggested: a smokescreen for the real pedophile ring pervasive in the beltway. I don't know what to make of #pizzagate, but it had some real legs and if it is truly a smokescreen to throw off the dogs in discovering the truth as Alex asserted, well that is some real-deal, true McCoy conspiracy theory #.

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat


No projection, no irony. I should have left the reply at the first paragraph and acquiesced from the content of the second; however, it was nothing more than a piece of friendly advice concerning the "Subscribe" button, as the poster's remark was in totality about the thread showing up in their "myATS". You - the reply of your's was very transparent - made the mistake of assuming it was anything other than friendly advice and that doesn't (and shouldn't with anyone) sit well with me, when there was nothing to it more than a helpful hint.

You went there unnecessarily. Why? I don't know. Why did you suggest anyone was projecting on you
Cheers.

you still don't get it. I was not being mean. I can't be any more clear. You said something I explained it. That was all, and you got angry thinking I got angry that's the projection.. I was only being friendly. And in the future before you go roid rage again.. This is my friendly face..

Did I come after you like NO this person did this because RAR!

no.. I didn't mistake what you said.. You read my response and thought I thought something I did not..

I was being friendly you read anger, that's YOUR psychology not mine. That's what projection means. Your subjective reading of my words is flavored with what you want to see. EVEN after I told you read it again it's friendly. As if I would make that up somehow?

chill

get out of your own way.

And definitely don't make any more off topic posts in my thread.

your last post was fine, and yes he will be out of UFC commentating shortly it seems by just getting a feel on him.

a reply to: Reverbs

Why do you keep bringingthat up? What is it? Why should I watch?

Also I'm extreme couching laughing my backside off while watching the German bachelor... so is your thing funny?

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Reverbs

Why do you keep bringingthat up? What is it? Why should I watch?

Also I'm extreme couching laughing my backside off while watching the German bachelor... so is your thing funny?

what did I bring up?

the video? I forget why I posted it? LOL. I'm sure it has nothing to do with this thread.

Let me see come on memory.. It was an interesting history lesson in the first hour.. Mixed with yoga stories..

It was pretty hilarious at some points.


shh I think I was drinking last night and I probably heard like one sentence that I thought related to this thread. Hehe.. Oops..

don't mind me..


Joe gave some advice on mutant wolves.. "Don't ever play rock paper scissors with em, they know what's coming."


at 55:00 funny yoga part..

yea anyway..

lmao

a reply to: Reverbs

That's how we decided our minor stuff back when I was married. "Who has to drive?" I always lost. Do you think he was a mutant?

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Reverbs

That's how we decided our minor stuff back when I was married. "Who has to drive?" I always lost. Do you think he was a mutant?

was he a WOLF!!

hahaha

Joe was talking about hunting Chernobyl wolves and of course one of the goofy people on his podcast said "are they mutant woofs" And he's like yea and they're mind readers.. " hahaha I love how people believe him at first and he's just making fun of them a second later.

originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
I like Eddie Bravo as a human being, he's done a massive amount to modernise Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and innovate it, I even spent a couple years learning the 10th planet system but he was just annoying as f**k in this episode and made it damn near unlistenable. None of it changed my feelings towards Jones being an opportunistic conman and snake oil salesman though.

I'd recommend the Rollins one over this, now that was an incredibly interesting podcast!

the point of this thread is not "enjoyable podcasts" I posted this for very specific reasons. I have watched all of Joe's podcasts. There are hundreds of amazing guests. Henry Rollins had some personal stories ok..
I'm looking at sneaky ways of saying other more important things.
my second post is a teaser.

I disagree. One guy is a doom porn peddler and conman that makes a living telling everyone the sky is imminently falling and the world is a horrific place while selling overpriced $130 a bottle snake oil and apocalypse survival meals. The other says go out into the world and see it, take every opportunity it offers you, embrace risk, meet everybody you can and learn about this amazing planet we live on firsthand.

Its not hard to see which one has more profound substance there.

Infowarriors may be the single most annoying subgroup that exists online. They are not the gatekeepers of the secret information awakening humanity, just mindless parroters of somebody else's opinion. It's pretentious and annoying more than anything.

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015


I disagree. One guy is a doom porn peddler and conman that makes a living telling everyone the sky is imminently falling and the world is a horrific place while selling overpriced $130 a bottle snake oil and apocalypse survival meals. The other says go out into the world and see it, take every opportunity it offers you, embrace risk, meet everybody you can and learn about this amazing planet we live on firsthand.

Its not hard to see which one has more profound substance there.

Infowarriors may be the single most annoying subgroup that exists online. They are not the gatekeepers of the secret information awakening humanity, just mindless parroters of somebody else's opinion. It's pretentious and annoying more than anything.

You can disagree that's fine except know what it is you are disagreeing to.

I despise alex jones for all the same reasons I've maybe seen his show like 1 time. Saw some 9/11 videos in 2005..

I've been in the game a VERY long time. Lately what I see is different.

What you don't get about what is special about having alex on Joe. You described why it's perfect, but you didn't seem to get it? Alex jones was verified on 95% of what he said in real time.. Joe kept pulling him back from the edge.
OF course if only they hadn't have gotten alex stoned. Man, that was a bit of a mistake.

Your tolerance.. what you can stand will limit your information you can gather. I have a lot of patience.. I also have a lot more information.

I've never seen so many pedophiles arrested in my entire life put together than just in the last couple months.
Are we all watching?

FBI is going hard.. which is an odd coincidence with Trump saying he was going to do this.

Alex on this show is a messenger.. Why the hell would you just listen to him? Don't do that. Are you naive? you must think I am? I am using this video as a file system or like a reference. You can pick anything he says and GO DO YOUR research. It's coming back true in every case I've looked into except the super woo he said about satan, and the breakaway civilization.

So understand the point. it's a jump off point to get informed on a LOT of goings on lately. It's a first briefing.. The more detailed information is out there. Have you checked the new threads list today?

Ben Swann - google drive video dump / re-upload request

Strongsville International Adoption Agency raided by FBI

Agents execute warrants at Alderman’s home, and pizza businesses

Mass Pedophilia Arrests 470+ California 12+ Haiti and 40+ in Tenessee


or did you hear about the pedophiles being busted in Haiti and the 500 in california? And that sandusky guys adopted son?
OR the website with 1500 suspects out of the 200,000 members, the last major child porn site?
Are we seeing all of this?

originally posted by: Reverbs
a reply to: Reverbs

Clicky Clicky..







Breitbart from 2011.... You know before he had his "heart attack"

he was on to this at least 6 years ago.

Trump signed executive orders that go after human trafficking and criminal gangs all of it..
the language sounds like it's about drugs and cartels but it's about any money laundering and human trafficking and anything related to it.

What alex is saying appears to actually be happening..

again I'm no fan of alex or Trump.. Please don't get confused in personalities.. This thread is about DATA.

This is my "soft opening"

I have better more in depth threads but I have to figure out how to make them so I don't get censored.

You've done a great job on the thread...........

originally posted by: Mousygretchen
You've done a great job on the thread...........

thank you.

and how are you mousy?

a reply to: Reverbs


YW!! :3


I'm good.. A bit confused but good nonetheless!!

Luke Kuhn, Who Met At Comet Pizza Arrested

Is my thread making a little more sense to anybody yet?

42 arrested in Polk County after undercover child porn, sex offender investigation

a reply to: Reverbs


I see what's going on....

a reply to: Mousygretchen

You started my woo waves this last time, but I sort of stopped talking about it..

Kept leading back here so I've been feeding other's information on ATS.. So this thread is partially your fault.

I wanted to make a better thread but This is sort of the best I can do for now.

Just watching at the moment.

a reply to: Reverbs

I'm watching. It's all just low level arrests so far, if it escalates into some kind of global investigation where prominent politicians and power brokers begin getting hauled off in bracelets I'll be impressed.

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
a reply to: Reverbs

I'm watching. It's all just low level arrests so far, if it escalates into some kind of global investigation where prominent politicians and power brokers begin getting hauled off in bracelets I'll be impressed.

agreed.