Senator TED CRUZ says that DEMOCRATS are the party of the KKK - Ku Klux Klan.

originally posted by: butcherguy
If a Republican said something like that, he would be a racist.

I thought the thread was about the KKK. Or do you mean the KKK isn't racist? Lol

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: carewemust

Didn't democrats once upon a time hold conservative beliefs and Republicans visa versa?

Yes, but Ted Cruz is way to stupid to realize that little fact.

The reversal came when LBJ, (a democrat) signed the Civil Rights Act into law. Giving blacks equal rights was the straw that broke the camels' back and it was the impetus that triggered the reversal of political party platforms.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Maverick1

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Chadwickus

They sure did, around the time Lincoln was President.

Yep. It all revolved around the southern USA. Lincoln left a bad taste in the mouths of the southern states, and drove them to the democrats.

Lyndon B Johnson, 100 years later, is the one who drove southern democrats gradually to the once hated republican party.

After their departure, along with the assassination attempt on Wallace and then the watergate fiasco, both parties were in sort of a flux until Reagan really set the ideological standards that we see today.

It's a lot more recent than most people think. It's not been that long ago you could find democrat conservatives and liberal republicans.

Umm, that is all wrong. Maybe you were in a parallel universe.

I was stoned a lot back then, granted.


But Lyndon Johnson is the one who prompted the ideological switch back in my universe( for the reason Flatfish mentioned above), that much is pretty non-arguable. And Reagan cemented the party lines 20 years later.....also pretty solid fact.

You tell me how it went in this universe?

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: butcherguy
If a Republican said something like that, he would be a racist.

I thought the thread was about the KKK. Or do you mean the KKK isn't racist? Lol

If a Republican stated that minorities are incapable of obtaining a government issued identification card, that Republican would be viewed as being a racist..... because it IS racist to think that.
Democrats use it as the reason that voter ID laws are discriminatory.... but they aren't viewed as racists.

I hope that helped you follow along.

The KKK is a racist organization. I am not sure where you would get the idea that they are not.

Anyway, regardless of when the switch in party ideologies occurred, Cruz was an idiot to make the statement, and as a conservative, it irritates the hell out of me when Repubs make these kind of statements, because it's a semantics game: Cruz knows full well the Klan was a right wing movement. Why confuse the issue by using semantics? It's counter productive.

Besides, God knows, the left has allied itself with a certain horrible far right movement itself these days...

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: butcherguy
If a Republican said something like that, he would be a racist.

I thought the thread was about the KKK. Or do you mean the KKK isn't racist? Lol

If a Republican stated that minorities are incapable of obtaining a government issued identification card, that Republican would be viewed as being a racist..... because it IS racist to think that.
Democrats use it as the reason that voter ID laws are discriminatory.... but they aren't viewed as racists.

I hope that helped you follow along.

The KKK is a racist organization. I am not sure where you would get the idea that they are not.

A OK so basically you just wanted to rant about Democrats instead of discussing the facts raised in the OP which is : Who were/are the KKK and what party did/do they belong to.

thanks for the attempted derail though.

originally posted by: Maverick1
Why confuse the issue by using semantics? It's counter productive.

Because Cruz and Trump are idiots and also think their voters are idiots too who never check anything they say and blindly gobble everything they are told as long as it means "we good, others bad".


They're not wrong on the latest point though. Their voters will blindly gobble anything coming from them.

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: butcherguy
If a Republican said something like that, he would be a racist.

I thought the thread was about the KKK. Or do you mean the KKK isn't racist? Lol

If a Republican stated that minorities are incapable of obtaining a government issued identification card, that Republican would be viewed as being a racist..... because it IS racist to think that.
Democrats use it as the reason that voter ID laws are discriminatory.... but they aren't viewed as racists.

I hope that helped you follow along.

The KKK is a racist organization. I am not sure where you would get the idea that they are not.

A OK so basically you just wanted to rant about Democrats instead of discussing the facts raised in the OP which is : Who were/are the KKK and what party did/do they belong to.

thanks for the attempted derail though.

Added to the facts already laid out that Democrats are racist.
If you need any more help following along, just let me know!

originally posted by: butcherguy
Added to the facts already laid out that Democrats are racist.
If you need any more help following along, just let me know!

It was actually Dixiecrats. Try to pay more attention to class next time. You and Cruz are making fools of yourself.

originally posted by: NotTooHappy
a reply to: Chadwickus

Yes.
In the 1960s, the Southern Democrats threw a fit over the rest of the Democrats backing Civil Rights. The racist Dixiecrats defected to the Republican party. That is why Strom Thurmond was a Republican when he died, why David Duke is a Republican today and why the KKK wholeheartedly endorsed Drumpf for president.
Ted is just using "Alternative Facts" to rile up his extremely gullible supporters.

Where have you been as far as the left's behaviors? Videos I see of the KKK show them marching in large groups, faces covered, and an element of fire. Watch any lefty protests lately? See the similarities?

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: butcherguy
Added to the facts already laid out that Democrats are racist.
If you need any more help following along, just let me know!

It was actually Dixiecrats. Try to pay more attention to class next time. You and Cruz are making fools of yourself.

At least I went to class, apparently.
read up:
Dixiecrat

The States' Rights Democratic Party (usually called the Dixiecrats) was a short-lived segregationist political party in the United States in 1948. It originated as a breakaway faction of the Democratic Party in 1948, determined to protect states' rights to legislate for racial segregation in the United States from what they regarded as an oppressive federal government,[1] and supporters assumed control of the state Democratic parties in part or in full in several Southern states. The States' Rights Democratic Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and white supremacy in the face of possible federal intervention. Members were called Dixiecrats. (The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat.) The party did not run local or state candidates, and after the 1948 election its leaders generally returned to the Democratic Party.

^^Read the red part.^^
Ku Klux Klan

The first Klan flourished in the Southern United States in the late 1860s, then died out by the early 1870s. It sought to overthrow the Republican state governments in the South during the Reconstruction Era, especially by using violence against African American leaders. With numerous chapters across the South, it was suppressed around 1871, through federal law enforcement. Members made their own, often colorful, costumes: robes, masks, and conical hats, designed to be terrifying, and to hide their identities.

then...

The second group was founded in 1915, and flourished nationwide in the early and mid-1920s, particularly in urban areas of the Midwest and West. It was rooted in local Protestant communities and opposed Catholics and Jews, and stressed its opposition to the Catholic Church at a time of high immigration from mostly Catholic nations of southern and eastern Europe.[6] This second organization adopted a standard white costume and used code words which were similar to those used by the first Klan, while adding cross burnings and mass parades to intimidate others.

Last incarnation...

The third and current manifestation of the KKK emerged after 1950, in the form of small, local, unconnected groups that use the KKK name. They have focused on opposition to the Civil Rights Movement, often using violence and murder to suppress activists. It is classified as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.[18] As of 2016, the Anti-Defamation League puts total Klan membership nationwide at around 3,000, while the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) puts it at 6,000 members total.

The KKK, if formed by Dixiecrats, as you have stated, consisted of Democrats, since the Dixiecrats went back to the Democratic Party.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: NotTooHappy
a reply to: Chadwickus

Yes.
In the 1960s, the Southern Democrats threw a fit over the rest of the Democrats backing Civil Rights. The racist Dixiecrats defected to the Republican party. That is why Strom Thurmond was a Republican when he died, why David Duke is a Republican today and why the KKK wholeheartedly endorsed Drumpf for president.
Ted is just using "Alternative Facts" to rile up his extremely gullible supporters.

Where have you been as far as the left's behaviors? Videos I see of the KKK show them marching in large groups, faces covered, and an element of fire. Watch any lefty protests lately? See the similarities?

So carnivals are actually racists displays too? Labor unions protests are racists? You guys really are reaching now. It's getting ridiculous. You are so obsessed with "leftists" that it make you defend the most absurd positions just to pretend the other side is worse than yours.

Sorry you can't accept the fact that KKK members are racist ass***es who happen to also vote for republicans, and Trump in particular.


It doesn't magically make the "lefties" the good guys by accepting that truth. Maybe you should have a good and honest look at yourself and priorities and realize that you would go as far as closing the eyes over the actions of some very bad people just because it hurts your own feelings. No one in this thread ever said anything about leftists but the butthurt conservatives can't even stay on topic which is the KKK. They HAVE to bring everything back to those they hate.

a reply to: NotTooHappy

You are calling him a liar....Yet what he is saying is fact....Which is typical of your "party"

Is this not true? Google might help you, ever heard of Robert KKK Byrd?!?a reply to: NotTooHappy

a reply to: SpaceGoatFart

Not sure where you get the carnival and union racism thing... Ill try to explain again. People in masks, burning things down, being racist. Who in the last 5-10 years has acted like that? Certainly not the KKK. And yes I agree, the kkk are racist.. Why would I not accept that fact?

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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
Not sure where you get the carnival and union racism thing... Ill try to explain again. People in masks, burning things down, being racist. Who in the last 5-10 years has acted like that?

That's not even remotely related to the thread topic.

The topic is about KKK, not people burning things and wearing masks. Learn to stick to the topic instead of derailing just so you can rant about the "leftists".

Let's take the two most racially motivated forces in America and find the common denominator.

originally posted by: Konduit
Let's take the two most racially motivated forces in America and find the common denominator.

Too bad some republicans had to keep the second one alive until now. Otherwise we would have only one left today.

a reply to: Konduit

One of those KKK guys in the photo is Black. A traitor? Must work for CNN.

a reply to: SpaceGoatFart

I guess you've never heard of Senator Robert Byrd, a top Democrat, Hillary Clinton's mentor and KKK Grand Kleagle.