Bannon's Apocalypse - Dangerous Ideology in the Whitehouse

Yeah, you are making it up as well as the fake news media. I like Bannon, and I also like Breitbart. As one comment put it, we understand why the leftists regressives fear this man. You can just watch the first 3 mins of the video and find out who are the "apocalyptic" ones. But it would probably be better to watch the whole thing. Instead of getting your info from false corrupted sources, how about taking it from the horse's mouth.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
Dear ATS,

This is a discussion of the particular ideology of Steve Bannon

Are you intentionally being obtuse or did you just wake up today? None of what the Huff Po spliced together concerns me in the least and Bannon is 100% correct. Hey man...if you love radical belief systems and ideologies then by all means pack your # up and move to the Middle East or China.

originally posted by: EyeKyu
Yeah, you are making it up as well as the fake news media. I like Bannon, and I also like Breitbart. As one comment put it, we understand why the leftists regressives fear this man. You can just watch the first 3 mins of the video and find out who are the "apocalyptic" ones. But it would probably be better to watch the whole thing. Instead of getting your info from false corrupted sources, how about taking it from the horse's mouth.

Exactly. The left once again outing themselves as the true anarchists. Good god I am so glad Trump won otherwise I may have never known the true depths of the left's sickness that continues to unfold on a daily basis.

originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AboveBoard

Ha ha!! Honestly, I was just telling my husband that I would happily take McCain, Romney, Papa Bush (whom I voted for) or even Reagan. Not so much Bush Jr. because of the whole near-Depression and bungled war thing. But a solid moderate Republican? Sure. I'd take them over Trump & co any day.

I hear you. I would have been peachy fine with Marco Rubio.

a reply to: AboveBoard

Is this what you want?

I hear you. I do not want this, but in the end does it matter what you want? I believe it does, but that doesn't mean that you will get it. This nation, as it has been building toward, is on the edge of a sword.

How or what you choose to believe is what is being attacked. Ideas and ways of thinking are drowning in the midst of human discourse. No matter how :powerful, rich, popular, decadent, civil, trust worthy, scrupulous; a govenment is, it has always fallen. You cannot name a Government, with the same system and rules as the original that has not fallen.

Even the original United States has failed. It not there would be no other new laws added. Every time a law is added, the Nation changes. Sure, people can make an argument that some laws need to be added to make good changes and they wouldn't be wrong about it being a good thing, but nonetheless a change has occurred.

Your first video's dramatically themed with enhanced conspiratorial music, which is a sign that you will be conditioned, was nothing new.
If you want me to believe that he is this evil guy, so to speak, I need you to tell me what you disagreed with him about on that video and offer your declared evidence that he is wrong. I know that may sound a little silly, but to make an extra ordinary claim, you must have extra ordinary evidence.

Now your second video was very relaxing, yet informative. There is something about reggae that makes me think of sand, beautiful moonlit night staring at the water.



As far as your second video, Neil Howe is a bestselling author.

The phrase ""kids these days"" is infused with new meaning in this look at the generation born between 1982 and 2000. Arguing against the conventional wisdom that junior high and high school kids are disrespectful, violent and alienated, Howe and Strauss (Generations; 13th Gen) demonstrate that the children of boomers and of older members of Generation X are actually harder workers and better community builders than any generation since the G.I.s'.

He wrote the book, Millennials Rising, in 2000. I don't know about you, but It would seem like he was very, very wrong. Now why should I listen to him?
And there is this.

He attended high school in Palo Alto, California, and earned a BA in English Literature at U.C. Berkeley in 1972.

en.wikipedia.org...

You wrote,

So in terms of ideology, as Bannon gains power, his personal beliefs become extremely important to understand...what I am learning chills me to the bone.

Everyone has their personal beliefs, this is Neil's. I am not sure if it is right, but hey, to each their own.

William Strauss (1947-2007) and Neil Howe (1951-) think society turns on a repeating set of four circa 20-year stages in an approximately 80-year cycle and they try to predict the future based on this.

rationalwiki.org...


For your last video I find that Sam Seder is well,
let us take a look at Sam, shall we?

Samuel Lincoln "Sam" Seder is an American comedian, writer, actor, film director, television producer-director, and progressive talk radio host

A little biased for evidence. We have all heard how comedian shows try to do their take on the news and when questioned about it they will always retort to being a comedian and how no one should get their news from them, so technically they say out right that they are fake news.

I hope I have put your fears to rest and have given your worries to more pressing matters.

a reply to: AboveBoard


Lord Banon...Has a nice ring to it.

Bannon's Apocalypse uh ?

Much of the political decision making is done on a level that has nothing to do with politics.
It's the media spinning down on Bannon. Still searching for the weak link in Trumps administration. Their current strategy is it to not directly attack Trump anymore. Even ignore him in the news but attack his staff and family. Bannon is not an angel but he really knows his stuff. He would have been (maybe is) a very good ATS'er.

You want to fight fear with fear? because your thread is fearmongering at best.

a reply to: whyamIhere

Until Trump is told war can be profitable and that causing another great depression will make the rich much richer.

originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: whyamIhere

Until Trump is told war can be profitable and that causing another great depression will make the rich much richer.

Bingo! How to get rich and hold
Power 101 is to start a war.

The depression thing only works if it happens at the beginning and he can't create it totally on his own. I think for Trump, it's less about the economy as he wins either way.

If he does have control he will need to be able to blame it on Obama, and that is tough because it is a fairly stable, if still recovering economy right now, from what I can gather.

(ETA: see Krazy's post below. Dang. You might be on to something with the recession/depression thing)

a reply to: AboveBoard

I've read various economists predicting that the next recession should happen in about 2 years from now just going by past economic cycles. Though Trump's policies COULD move that timetable up.

These came out before the election:
Economists Believe a Recession Is Likely Within Next Four Years

JP Morgan says there's a 92% chance of recession within 3 years

Post eleciton:
Trump Economic Plan Would Send U.S. Economy To Most Severe Recession Since Early 1980s
Is The Trump Administration Doomed To A Recession? History Says Yes

So Trump will be owning a recession and he can only make it worse or happen sooner.

originally posted by: Substracto
You want to fight fear with fear? because your thread is fearmongering at best.

I want to illuminate what I consider a rather dangerous ideological wild card that now sits next to the President.

Bannon has taken a fairly benign idea regarding cycles in American history (an idea with big holes in it, like WWI for example) and has, according to the founder of this idea, extrapolated it into a prediction of:

1) a near-future war is inevitable (China and Middle East) and we are actually at physical war and in an ideological war for the far right and Judeo Christian beliefs,

2) the coming physical/ideological war will be bigger than WWII and therefore the most destructive and painful of all time.

He is now in a powerful position where that worldview is helping make decisions in real time with top National Security clearance and direct access to the President.

If he was just the CEO of Breitbart saying these things I could roll my eyes and not worry about it too much.

But since he has ascended to a position of such power and influence, where his philosophy and personal values can be directly and possibly militarily acted on, I wouldn't call this simple fear mongering, but a rational look at who is leading our country at the highest levels.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Interesting. Thank you for providing those links.

So early recession would be his pick so he can blame it on Obama with a potential war started just in time to make sure we "need consistency" and thus a reelection.

Yikes.

a reply to: AboveBoard

That's probably his best shot (call it the Bush jr. strategy), short of a false flag (and strangely I actually could see him doing something like that if his ratings fall too low). He doesn't exactly have the same political buffer that Obama did in 09.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It would fulfill Bannon's desire to purge and purify America through the crucible of war, to burn it down so the 1950's can happen again. That's my impression of what he wants anyway, the post-war patriotism and grand American re-building. Damn the torpedos and the millions if not billions dead! Something like that anyway.

a reply to: AboveBoard

Which makes me think it is more likely that we could actually get a real false flag this time. Though with how the Trump admin leaks like a sieve, I doubt it would last a secret very long.

originally posted by: jtma508
For what it's worth I'll put this out there... I'm soon to be 65yo. I've been around the block a few times. From my earliest memories I have had this strong, visceral feeling that during my lifetime something epic was going to happen. It had nothing to do with me personally and was beyond my control. It was going to be decidedly unpleasant but things would be much better on the other side. I have never had any inkling of what this 'thing' is. All I can say is that the feeling is more deeply rooted than any other in my life. And again, this wasn't some idea I came-up with later in life, this has been something that has been with me since childhood. It's strong and it is always there. FWIW

I'm 58 and since childhood I have had the same feeling. I have also had visions of the US being defeated in war and occupied. It wasn't the Russians though it was the Chinese. To hear Brannon say war with China is inevitable chills me to the bone.

a reply to: 3daysgone

Thank you for your comments and for joining in the discussion.

See my post above this one which will answer your thoughts on Bannon's relationship to Howe's Fourth Turning theory.

I agree that the theory is full of holes, as is the Millennials Rising, but Bannon believes it and then takes it to a whole new level, to a very dark place not supported by Howe.

That is where the concern is - a man in his position could create, to some degree, the very World War he sees as already inevitable.

Sorry. My fears are not allayed.

As to the other videos, one is to show the positive spirit of humanity that I still believe in.

The Howe video is to show the rather normal and benign nature of Howe himself and if people can get through the long low key discussion, there are some interesting points he makes about Trump and Bannon from a fairly neutral position (i.e. Not liberal bias).

Yes, the last video is biased. I found it to be a bit cringe-worthy in it's obvious slant. It does make a good point if one can get through it, however, and extract the partisanship from the point.

a reply to: damwel

I'm 31 and I HAVE witnessed epic things happening in my lifetime (Katrina, Haiti, Fukashima, etc). Not world destabilizing, but there is always some new catastrophe going on. They happen in regular occurrence. I blame the fact that there are 7 billion people in the world and many group together so it is easy for these things to happen.

Though always remember, space could wipe us out tomorrow with something like a gamma ray burst, and you wouldn't even know it was coming. The sky would go bright and the next moment you'd be nothing. I find it best not to dwell on tomorrow's catastrophes and worry about the problems of today.