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Bush to Obama Or Obama To Trump--Who got/getting A Bigger Mess?

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posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 01:38 AM
The Bush Presidency began with the (at best) worst intelligence failure since Pearl Harbor and ended with the worst economic catastrophe since The Great Depression. And in between we had this:

Clare Boothe Luce liked to say that “a great man is one sentence.” Presidents, in particular. The most common “one sentence” for George W. Bush is: “He kept us safe.” Not quite right. With Bush’s legacy being reassessed as his presidential library opens in Dallas, it’s important to note that he did not just keep us safe. He created the entire anti-terror infrastructure that continues to keep us safe. That homage was paid, wordlessly, by Barack Obama, who vilified Bush’s anti-terror policies as a candidate, then continued them as president: indefinite detention, rendition, warrantless wiretaps, special forces and drone warfare, and, most notoriously, Guantanamo, which Obama so ostentatiously denounced — until he found it indispensable.

Obama continued the Bush Doctrine wholeheartedly.

While it's indisputable that the economy is stronger than it was 8 years ago the actual course of this nation has not changed all that drastically in decades. Not going back too far in time we had lies to get us into the Gulf War during Bush 41 and the continuation of sanctions against Iraq and his own Anti-Terror law during the Clinton Administration.

The use of terrorism to keep the masses in fear and controlled and our, uh, dalliances in the Middle East to control the oil and gas there will assuredly continue. Things don't start and stop with a new president - and Trump isn't going to change anything.

posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 05:41 AM
a reply to: seasonal

Another Obama bashing thread. Give it a break already! Can we move beyond this? Obama is an out going president. It's time to focus on the positive and negative aspects of a Donald Trump presidency. Don't give me this crap that Trump has no negatives, every president since George Washington had their negatives. We should be discussing Trumps "positive points" on various issues, and at the same time be honest and point out his negative points on the issues. Let's stop the deflection and condemnation of an outgoing president. Whether you liked Obama or hated Obama, it's not about that. It's about issues that affect ALL Americans no matter what party you affiliate with! This divisiveness is not what a united America is all about.

posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 08:32 AM
a reply to: WeRpeons

I think it is a good idea to address these things. This is by no means an "Obama bash".

I think Bush pooped the bed with the bail outs and war with no end and a national debt that was way out of control.

And Obama crapped the bed with ramped up war with no end and a national debt that is way way out of control.

posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 09:26 AM
The things that have been concealed, covered, kept hidden and locked away that Trump will "inherit" should probably be of more concern than the things most Americans are aware of for the incoming Trump administration.


posted on Jan, 17 2017 @ 01:59 PM
Obama ended slavery, that has got to earn him some points.

posted on Jan, 18 2017 @ 01:33 PM
January 18, 2017

CBS News / Scott Smelty just introduced the start of Obama's final press conference by putting up numbers showing that Donald Trump is entering the White House with a "dismal" 32% Approval Rating.

Since the Liberal Media polls are always 180-degrees upside down, this is great news! Donald Trump takes office with a MANDATE from the people to make America the greatest again.

posted on Jan, 18 2017 @ 01:38 PM
If you call increasing the welfare spending by threefold under Obama busting economy I can only wonder

Been more people in welfare doesn't make an economy better, more people have to pay for social benefits with tax dollars that's federal spending.

edit on 18-1-2017 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)

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