Why do we let these sciopaths rule our lives!

Just like me, alot of people are worried about the state of the world. We are seeing many conflicts, and it feels we are on the brink of a major war.

The problem is, most people dont want a war, but will blindly go into one.

And this is the power these sociopaths have over us. Does not matter what the conflict is about. Does not matter if its right or wrong, we will blindly follow.

The saddest part to this is governments around the world make up a small percentage of the population, but they have us where they want us.

Is it hundreds, or even thousands of years of conditioning perfection that brings us to where we are today?

Will we ever stand up and open our eyes and say enough is enough?

It seems to me that its the governments, not most of the people, that are obsessed with war and conflict. Obsessed with telling the people of their nation that they must fight for their country, their great country.
Be patriotic for your country, because that all thst matters.

Its just sad when you look at the world today

It is a sad state, but Trump could do good things and in four years time, be waiting to be sworn in for a second time.

The U.K could soon be out of the E.U, closely followed by France and potentially Germany and The Netherlands.

Daesh could be obliterated and order stored throughout the M.E.

Countries from around the World could agree on a clean energy bill and work together in developing free energy for their citizens.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
It is a sad state, but Trump could do good things and in four years time, be waiting to be sworn in for a second time.

The U.K could soon be out of the E.U, closely followed by France and potentially Germany and The Netherlands.

Daesh could be obliterated and order stored throughout the M.E.

Countries from around the World could agree on a clean energy bill and work together in developing free energy to their citizens.

We need to start working together. None of this tribal warfare rubbish.

Yes, people say "well, we have been doing this for hundreds of years" but the difference now is, we have weapons that could wipe out all life on this planet.

We dont decide how much money goes into militery funding. We dont decide if we go to war or not. The people eho decide about that, dont give a crap about you, or your family.

But we blindly folliw

Most people don't want pollution, but they want products. They don't want bills, but they want services.

Very few people really want war, the problem is that people (including ordinary people) want certain things, whether it's to do with energy independence, commerce, return on investment, employment opportunities, national security, etc. And in the nitty gritty of those pursuits, conflict and wars happen.

It's dangerous to think of "government" as being a thing apart from us. It absolves ones self and associates from the blame. Most of the several "in control" nations have considerable resources, workforce, and accumulated wealth. It is in those people's interest to protect and expand those assets.

It's just wild how many people are the equivalent of fight spectators who say "Hey, come on now, don't hurt anyone." So their fighter holds back, and then the same people yell, "Hey what are you doing?! Don't LOSE stupid!"

The problem with government isn't, in my opinion, that they're sociopaths. Their problem is that they're just like us. They have some ideas, and some but not all of them are good. And some but not all of them are practical. And some but not all of them can be agreed upon by everyone. And if we draw the venn diagram, the amount of ideas that are good, practical, and can be agreed upon are very, very few.

I believe Trump will bring world peace...

a reply to: Jay-morris

A couple reasons off the top of my head. 1. They don't feel compassion or regret and don't care about committing violence against anyone #2. They are highly manipulative and rationalize #1 so those they commit violence against accept it. #3. Once in power they create and support institutions and laws that insulate them from the consequences of their behavior in #1 and #2.

a reply to: Jay-morris

2 things immediately come to mind.

1. You're making a huge mistake by assuming that most people don't want war. The whole point in many contact sports is to sate & redirect a population's desire for combat in a sanitized way. They provide an outlet for our inherent aggression. And even then, there will still always be citizens blindly jumping into new wars, militaries, paramilitaries, gangs, death squads, crime families, etc because it's the path they want.

And that doesn't even include the people who will readily jump into battle if they or their loved ones are perceived to be in danger. I'm a pacifist but my form of pacifism allows violence in self defense. And I've noticed that even a lot of kind and peaceful women will cheer on someone who fights for their loved ones, their honor code, their beliefs, etc.

In short, I think it's actually a minority of people who don't want conflict. The others want conflict, but only under certain conditions. Politicians, commentators, and demagogues in general just happen to be great at creating, provoking, and capitalizing on those conditions.

2. Most people fall for the provocations of demagogues because they don't actually care about geopolitical details. We're usually too busy with our daily lives to pay attention to the exchange of failed deals that leads to the funding of a covert black ops group that causes a localized catastrophe or "attack". We only hear about the "significant" localized catastrophe/attacks, and then we only hear about them in a series of carefully rehearsed 15 second soundbites whenever our leaders need more volunteers for their plan to deal with the cause of those initial failed deals, which they conveniently leave out of their fearmongering.

So of course, us gullible citizens accept their fearmongering as fact, perceive our loved ones as being in danger (or realize we have a chance to act out on our own kneejerk bigotry), and volunteer to fight yet another war or support yet another conflict. Anyone who sees past the fearmongering and points out the con is attacked by peer pressure as being unpatriotic/sympathizer/weak/etc. Anyone who is a part of the scapegoated demographic of the black ops-initiated attack becomes scared and thus starts engaging in self defense, causing the cycle of conflict to continue.

TL;DR
Most people love some form of conflict. Demagogues from various fields are experts at exploiting our desire for conflict, be it through entertainment or through war. People fall for the provocations of those demagogues because it fills a need, gives a false sense of security, gives people the excuse to be the violent prick they always wanted to be, or because we're too busy with our daily lives to know what's actually going on. After all, the only difference in a murderer and a war hero is semantics.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Your right and to me it seems it's because over at least a hundred years or so, they have it structured just right.

That's to say they have each and everyone of us by balls

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
TL;DR
Most people love some form of conflict. Demagogues from various fields are experts at exploiting our desire for conflict, be it through entertainment or through war. People fall for the provocations of those demagogues because it fills a need, gives a false sense of security, gives people the excuse to be the violent prick they always wanted to be, or because we're too busy with our daily lives to know what's actually going on. After all, the only difference in a murderer and a war hero is semantics.

I love that you included a condensed version...even though I read the whole thing. (and starred it, btw)

a reply to: MotherMayEye

LOL Thanks. I wasn't planning on ranting but the words wouldn't stop coming out.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Countries from around the World could agree on a clean energy bill and work together in developing free energy for their citizens.

Ya getting a bit overly optimistic I'd say there mate

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Countries from around the World could agree on a clean energy bill and work together in developing free energy for their citizens.

Ya getting a bit overly optimistic I'd say there mate

Believe brother, believe.

Somebody was telling once about a study done where a group of unrelated people are put in a room and then they're exposed to the smell of something burning. Turns out that around 2 out of every 10 people will actually take action, while the rest will wait to see what somebody else does. I suppose it's a kind of instinct, and a pretty good one generally. You don't want everybody trying to take control of the situation, or that would be chaos.

Turns out that sociopaths are often highly-motivated and persuasive.

You want to lead the pack? Nobody stopping you.

Q:"Why do we let these sciopaths rule our lives"?

Because they are more brutal than you are and will kill yo ass!

Sheeple are timid, gay and unorganized.

Also, Sheeple have no idea what is going on.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Why do we let these sciopaths rule our lives!

lack of power

Will we ever stand up and open our eyes and say enough is enough?

when we have enough power to do so

The saddest part to this is governments around the world make up a small percentage of the population, but they have us where they want us.

No
the mob rules Rome
there is a concerted effort to make you think you don't

Emperors only remain at the top
by pandering to the mob

" you can fool some of the people
some of the time , but you can't fool
all of the people all of the time "

originally posted by: TheBlackTiger


The problem with government isn't, in my opinion, that they're sociopaths. Their problem is that they're just like us. They have some ideas, and some but not all of them are good. And some but not all of them are practical. And some but not all of them can be agreed upon by everyone. And if we draw the venn diagram, the amount of ideas that are good, practical, and can be agreed upon are very, very few.

I have to disagree with you here. They are not like us, and they show what you would expect in a sociopath.

I would be gutted, and pretty much give up if i thought these people were like us, because then i would know there would be no hope for us.

The problem is, the way this world is run at the moment, it has to be run by sociopaths. I dont see any other explanation for the horrors we see

a reply to: Jay-morris

Ummm, then who do you think makes up the government at the State and local levels? It's normal people filling all of those roles. Here's a link from the Census that claims there were more than 14 million full time local & State govt employees and 4.8 million part time local & State govt employees in 2015 (HERE). And here's another link that claims there were around 22 million total federal, State, and local govt employees in 2015 (HERE).

The truth is that people in general are easy to corrupt. Every day there are normal people that cheat on their spouses, cheat on their taxes, and do petty things to make life harder for their next door neighbors. Every day there are normal people that get in fights, show favoritism towards their inner circles, and routinely break laws that they don't agree with (like stealing digital content, using illegal drugs, hiring prostitutes, buying counterfeit products, hiring undocumented workers for cheaper labor, running through red lights, etc). Every day there are normal people that beat or molest their own family members, and others that disown family members for dating the "wrong kind" of person.

But we're supposed to believe that those same people will act maturely and ethically if given power over entire districts? Come on, now lol. If a normal person with a temper problem gains control over a military, how do you think they'll use that power? If a non-convicted rapist gets control over a female jail facility, how do you think they'll use that power? If a habitual liar and tax cheat gets the power to write blank checks of taxpayer money, how do you think they'll use that power?

a reply to: nOraKat

I'm assuming you meant "gay" as in "lighthearted and carefree". If so, I agree to a large extent. However, I also think that most people have that same capacity to become the evil/corrupt demagogue if given the chance.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Countries from around the World could agree on a clean energy bill and work together in developing free energy for their citizens.

Ya getting a bit overly optimistic I'd say there mate

Believe brother, believe.

Quite right.

I certainly believe in the good in people to overcome ignorant fear based beliefs and reasoning, even if there are some less than ideal people in positions of perceived power.

However, remember, it is perceived, and not necessarily true to reality.

Lots of money doesnt always equate to evil or power. Equally so, a homeless guy could be a #ing sorcerer.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: nOraKat

However, I also think that most people have that same capacity to become the evil/corrupt demagogue if given the chance.

I'm glad you said most and not that stupid "absolute power corrupts absolutely" quote.

I'm more a fan of "Those who seek power don't deserve it and those who deserve power don't seek it" as while there is a small number of true psychopaths, there's also a small number of people who are truly good decent people who won't suddenly turn into psychopathic monsters if you hand power over to them.