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originally posted by: Perjury
the military should just roll through and take care of it
originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Solutions? I take it they have strict gun laws so relax those laws so common folk can defend themselves?.
originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist
Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.
originally posted by: vor78
a reply to: worldstarcountry
They don't have to go that far. Military intervention would be problematic and undesirable. One big part of the problem is that that a significant percentage of homicide offenders in Chicago are repeat offenders. They're turning out people who shouldn't be back on the streets at all, with predictable results. Institute a mandatory life term for anyone convicted of any violent crime involving a firearm, including mere possession during the crime. That will cut down on some of it over time.
Otherwise, Chicago, and cities with similar problems are not going to see huge improvement until they improve both their educational systems and their job opportunities in the inner cities. Someone asked if poverty was the problem. Yes, at its core, it is. Those people are turning to gangs and violent crime as a means to survive. The governments in those cities need to offer them a real alternative, rather than allowing it to continue so that they can manipulate the situation for votes on election day.
originally posted by: JoeNutter
Why don't you have guns? Good bye.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist
Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.
That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist
Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.
That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today.
Those same troops and the police department also unlawfully confiscated guns from legal gun owners, I do NOT advocate for this sort of mediation......
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist
Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.
That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to New Orleans after Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today. Pretty sad when we had Soldiers all geared up being robbed by thugs for their weapons.
originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
I still think poverty and lack of education is an underlining cause, plus the war on drugs may be a cause also. I don't think there is just one solution but helping the good folk defend themselves is a start.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist
Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.
That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today.
Those same troops and the police department also unlawfully confiscated guns from legal gun owners, I do NOT advocate for this sort of mediation......
That is true.. I wonder if that was a testing ground or what.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
And how are they going to pay for the life terms? Thats a LOT of life terms and the city is already broke.......
We have enough issues with over crowded prisons full of people on petty charges doing ridiculously long terms....
originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
I still think poverty and lack of education is an underlining cause, plus the war on drugs may be a cause also. I don't think there is just one solution but helping the good folk defend themselves is a start.
originally posted by: watchitburn
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: Cohen the Barbarian
a reply to: annoyedpharmacist
Like someone said upthread, it's not the Fed's problem. For starters Rahm is an idiot. If the CPD can't handle it then it's up to the governor to call up the Illinois National Guard to police the streets in the problem areas.
That is the solution, but also could be a huge mistake. They sent in troops to New Orleans after Katrina without ammo, and things weren't as PC as they are today. Pretty sad when we had Soldiers all geared up being robbed by thugs for their weapons.
Yup
The Marines helped the police restore order during the L.A. riots.
The police learned that they have a completely different definition of "cover me" then the Marines do.
originally posted by: vor78
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
And how are they going to pay for the life terms? Thats a LOT of life terms and the city is already broke.......
We have enough issues with over crowded prisons full of people on petty charges doing ridiculously long terms....
Well, for one, maybe those people locked up on petty charges shouldn't be there...
I'm not saying its necessarily going to be easy or cheap. If it were, someone would have solved these issues long ago.
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: proximo
a reply to: xuenchen
One of the cops said that essentially if they are going to get in trouble for doing their jobs - via black lives matter type protests, it is better to just not do their jobs until they are appreciated.
Funny thing is ... I'm sure he's planning to collect his 'full' paycheck and expect this lull-time to count towards his pension to boot. -Sigh