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originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Raggedyman
perhaps referring to LUKE 19:11-27, "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”
originally posted by: Xtrozero
I meant everything man made was first an abstract thought. About 80% of your day is in this abstract world we live in. You are in the world the whole time you are on your computer as example. But my main point is religion is a byproduct of how we think and whether God is real or not our brains would not comprehend the thought if we didn't have the ability to think in the abstract.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
a reply to: Raggedyman
The True Church is in Golgotha.
If you think so
I know so because I thought about it and it seems obvious to me Golgotha is not a geographical location as it was mentioned by the Gospels alone until Medieval Jew"sh authors started writing about it.
It's the mind, the place of the skull or "Golgotha" the true Church and Temple and in the brain is the Holy of Holies.
Except
My mistake I thought You were referring to the church as a building or place.
Christians see it as a gathering of true believers, according to the bible at least, we can hold a church meeting anywhere there is room. A church is a gathering, not an individual
Maybe other religions see it as a building, in their mind, you can as well, no harm
originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Raggedyman
perhaps referring to LUKE 19:11-27, "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
a reply to: Raggedyman
The True Church is in Golgotha.
If you think so
I know so because I thought about it and it seems obvious to me Golgotha is not a geographical location as it was mentioned by the Gospels alone until Medieval Jew"sh authors started writing about it.
It's the mind, the place of the skull or "Golgotha" the true Church and Temple and in the brain is the Holy of Holies.
Except
My mistake I thought You were referring to the church as a building or place.
Christians see it as a gathering of true believers, according to the bible at least, we can hold a church meeting anywhere there is room. A church is a gathering, not an individual
Maybe other religions see it as a building, in their mind, you can as well, no harm
It is technically a church.
But not the Golgotha of which I speak.
So why would I want to view it as a church, and why would you say "It's OK" as if I ever would view it that way when I don't now?
And as if I would need your approval?
Such arrogance for a rather undereducated (at least Biblically) Christian!
An educated Christian would have understood what I meant by Golgotha.
What about seeming contradictions in the Gospels?
Critics have long claimed that the Gospels are full of contradictions. Historian Durant sought to examine the Gospel accounts from a purely objective standpoint—as historical documents. Though he says that there are seeming contradictions in them, he concludes: “The contradictions are of minutiae [trivial details], not substance; in essentials the synoptic gospels agree remarkably well, and form a consistent portrait of Christ.”
Seeming contradictions in Gospel accounts are often easily resolved.
A valuable fragment of John’s Gospel was found in Egypt at the turn of the 20th century and is now known as the Papyrus Rylands 457 (P52). It contains what is John 18:31-33, 37, 38 in the modern Bible and is preserved at the John Rylands Library, Manchester, England. This is the oldest manuscript fragment of the Christian Greek Scriptures in existence. Many scholars believe that it was written about 125 C.E., a mere quarter of a century or so after John’s death. The amazing thing is that the text of the fragment agrees nearly exactly with that in later manuscripts.
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An Early Defense of the Gospels
Early in the history of Christianity, critics argued that the Gospels contradicted one another and thus their accounts could not be trusted. The Syrian writer Tatian (about 110-180 C.E.) came to the defense of the Gospels. He felt that any apparent contradictions would disappear if the Gospels were skillfully harmonized and blended into one account instead of four.
Tatian set about preparing such a harmony. It is not known whether his original was in Greek or in Syriac. Whatever the case, about 170 C.E., Tatian completed his work, known as the Diatessaron, a Greek word meaning “through [the] four.” Why should you be interested in this noninspired composition?
In the 19th century, critics began to promote the view that none of the Gospels were written before the middle of the second century C.E.; hence, they could have little historical value. Ancient manuscripts of the Diatessaron discovered since then, however, provide definitive evidence that the four Gospels—and only the four—were already well-known and accepted as a collection by the middle of the second century C.E.
Discovery of the Diatessaron and commentaries on it in Arabic, Armenian, Greek, and Latin led Bible scholar Sir Frederic Kenyon to write: “These discoveries finally disposed of any doubt as to what the Diatessaron was, and proved that by about A.D. 170 the four canonical Gospels held an undisputed pre-eminence over all other narratives of our Saviour’s life.”
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: TerriblePhoenix
a reply to: Raggedyman
The True Church is in Golgotha.
If you think so
I know so because I thought about it and it seems obvious to me Golgotha is not a geographical location as it was mentioned by the Gospels alone until Medieval Jew"sh authors started writing about it.
It's the mind, the place of the skull or "Golgotha" the true Church and Temple and in the brain is the Holy of Holies.
Except
My mistake I thought You were referring to the church as a building or place.
Christians see it as a gathering of true believers, according to the bible at least, we can hold a church meeting anywhere there is room. A church is a gathering, not an individual
Maybe other religions see it as a building, in their mind, you can as well, no harm
It is technically a church.
But not the Golgotha of which I speak.
So why would I want to view it as a church, and why would you say "It's OK" as if I ever would view it that way when I don't now?
And as if I would need your approval?
Such arrogance for a rather undereducated (at least Biblically) Christian!
An educated Christian would have understood what I meant by Golgotha.
Then don't and it's not ok for you
I am of the mind you are like buzzy wigs, anything I say is going to inflame your feelings
Let it go, it's not my buisness, feel free to think anyway you want, allow me the same.
Golgotha, totally irrelevant
originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TerriblePhoenix
I guess you are better than me
Oh well....