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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
i think a good example of this is Shaka kahn. The African tribes fought battles in the old way before him.
I think you meant Shaka Zulu. Chaka Khan was a female R&B singer and, if memory serves me, not much into warfare.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: JoshuaCox
If you want to undertand why, just look at when it started happening.
It begins with Columbus and Vasco da Gama, giving access to America and the Far East. Changes in ship design, making them fitter for ocean travel, helped here.
Control of trade routes has always meant economic power.
There is a feedback effect between economic power and population growth.
Also colonies in America, which provide fresh markets (more economic growth) and are in themeselves a factor in population growth.
The eighteenth-century agricultural revolution made food-growing more efficient.
This in turn was one of the necessary conditions of the industrial revolution. Until food is plentiful and cheap, nobody has any money to spare to spend on anything else.
Until the industrial revolution, military superiority was mainly about gunpowder. The Ottomans had gunpowder too, and were very formidable opponents up to the eighteenth century.
By 1900, as a result of all these factors, western culture dominated many areas of the world AND the ocean routes between them (thank you again, Columbus and Vasco da Gama).
Huh? Who said Rome was any where else?
originally posted by: corblimeyguvnor
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Last i looked Rome was in Italy ......... could have sworn that was Western Europe
They never left Asia though.
originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: JoshuaCox
The ethnic Huaxia and Han people of China are just as ancient and advanced as the empires listed in the OP. They have launched countless campaigns of assimilation, total war, and annihilation against the people of Jiu-Li, San-Miao, Nanman, Nanzhao, Tai, Bai, Yi, Yao, Bo, Miao/Meo, Hmong, and other indigenous eastern-Asian minorities.
Why do you think your reasoning led to the rise of global Western rule, yet the same reasoning saw China as a powerful unifying isolationist?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
They [the Chinese] never left Asia though.