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originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Greggers
What does it do that they havent been doing all along?
If they've been doing it all along, who cares?
According to the Washington Post, what's new is this: www.washingtonpost.com... 52_story.html?utm_term=.d1b5326f09c5
The effort would expand the State Department’s Global Engagement Center, which focuses on combating propaganda and recruitment by the Islamic State and other violent extremist groups, and would draw support from the Defense Department, intelligence agencies, the U.S. Agency for International Development and the Broadcasting Board of Governors.
The measure also would create a grant program to help foster civil society and independent journalism in countries targeted with propaganda campaigns by Russia and other foreign powers, including China.
Not really the gist at all, the bill states it will introduce "procedures to expose and refute foreign misinformation and disinformation and proactively promote fact-based narratives and policies to audiences outside the United States."
Personally I feel this will be absolutely pointless because as I've learned over the years on ATS, as well as other social media, once someone's mind is made up, that's it, there's absolutely no swaying them.
And surely you've noticed that many CAN'T think for themselves, they parrot whatever rhetoric they have chosen to be true in their minds and that's it.
Distrust the US government but loves Russian government....what a joke.
Imagine if every time someone blasted Bush for Iraq, someone else showed up and tried to make the thread about the Democrat's who funded and voted for the various facets of that nightmare.
Wouldn't that get annoying?
If we cant get justice on Bush (which we cant' thanks to furor Obama pardoning him), then what the hell are we going to do about any of the rest of it?
Just getting people to stop worshipping their primary figureheads is most of the battle.
And by the way, aren't you a Muslim? How can you defend whether directly or 'passively-defensively' or wilfull ignorantly what the Dem's have spearheaded over in the Muslim World?
Wouldn't that get annoying? If we cant get justice on Bush (which we cant' thanks to furor Obama pardoning him)
Aide: Obama Won't Prosecute Bush Officials
President Barack Obama does not intend to prosecute Bush administration officials who devised the policies that led to the harsh interrogation of suspected terrorists, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel said Sunday.
Obama last week authorized the release of a series of memos detailing the methods approved under President George W. Bush. In an accompanying statement, he said "it is our intention to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice, that they will not be subject to prosecution." He did not specifically address the policymakers.
Asked Sunday on ABC's "This Week" about the fate of those officials, Emanuel said the president believes they "should not be prosecuted either and that's not the place that we go."
Obama DOJ Asks Court to Grant Immunity to George W. Bush For Iraq War
In court papers filed today (PDF), the United States Department of Justice requested that George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and Paul Wolfowitz be granted procedural immunity in a case alleging that they planned and waged the Iraq War in violation of international law.
Plaintiff Sundus Shaker Saleh, an Iraqi single mother and refugee now living in Jordan, filed a complaint in March 2013 in San Francisco federal court alleging that the planning and waging of the war constituted a “crime of aggression” against Iraq, a legal theory that was used by the Nuremberg Tribunal to convict Nazi war criminals after World War II.
“The DOJ claims that in planning and waging the Iraq War, ex-President Bush and key members of his Administration were acting within the legitimate scope of their employment and are thus immune from suit,” chief counsel Inder Comar of Comar Law said.
Obama's justice department grants final immunity to Bush's CIA torturers
The Obama administration's aggressive, full-scale whitewashing of the "war on terror" crimes committed by Bush officials is now complete. Thursday, Attorney General Eric Holder announced the closing without charges of the only two cases under investigation relating to the US torture program: one that resulted in the 2002 death of an Afghan detainee at a secret CIA prison near Kabul, and the other the 2003 death of an Iraqi citizen while in CIA custody at Abu Ghraib. This decision, says the New York Times Friday, "eliminat[es] the last possibility that any criminal charges will be brought as a result of the brutal interrogations carried out by the CIA".
US justice department rules out prosecutions over CIA prison deaths
The decision in the inquiries of the deaths of two terrorist suspects marks the end of a wide-ranging criminal investigation by federal prosecutor John Durham into interrogation practices during the presidency of George Bush.
Durham has looked into the treatment of 101 detainees in US custody since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Durham's inquiry into another episode involving the CIA began in January 2008 when the justice department chose him to conduct a criminal investigation into the agency's destruction of videotapes it had made of its interrogations of terrorist suspects.
In August 2009, attorney general Eric Holder expanded Durham's mandate to include a preliminary review of the CIA's interrogation of specific detainees overseas. In June 2011, Holder approved Durham's request to move into a full criminal investigation of the two deaths.
The 2009 expansion followed the public release of an internal CIA inspector general's report that revealed agency interrogators once threatened to kill a 9/11 suspect's children, and suggested another would be forced to watch his mother be sexually assaulted. The report said some CIA interrogators went beyond Bush administration restrictions that gave them wide latitude to use severe tactics such as waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Blah blah dude. Seriously, I've seen you come in and deflect the heat off Obama on numerous issues now
Blah blah dude. Seriously, I've seen you come in and deflect the heat off Obama on numerous issues now via these means (Syria, American Imperialism, War On Drugs, and surely just about every other issue following this same talking point pattern I observe you wield when the subject of Obama in the hot seat comes up).
OBAMA IS CURRENTLY THE BOSS. It happens on his watch yet we're going to let him skate by with a pass, he goes on being worshipped, because some mostly no-name no-fame douches in Congress helped push through HIS AGENDA'S?????
He promised change and all we got was PC and a busted ass Obamacare that they told everyone we were racists if we criticized it.
And you know what that is on topic because to advance any cause now first we have to get thru the minefield of PC self-censorship your team has embittered our nation with, and then other caveats such as if we try to hold Obama to his CHANGE pledges then oh quick blame the Republicans (WHEN IM NOT A REPUBLICAN), and now to top it all off the precedent now is the Internet is bent on being scrubbed via AI automation via Facebook & Google (whom are essentially part of the Obama admin), with counter-imperialist propaganda to be branded as "foreign propaganda" that needs to be traced, cataloged and "countered".
I know you're far from the worst of the resident liberal demogogues, but damn dude you still sure do show up with your own style of passive-defensive schtick that is helping give this guy AND Hillary a pass. He and Hillary deserve to go down in the flames of SHAME just as bad as Bush ever did and you guys are propping Him up either directly or passive-defensively.