Willy wonka remake and some dark topics

Me and my wife had been watching this movie normally i ignore my own thought process and just watch however this time i didnt and the dark side of willy wonka was shown to me.

1: labor

Willy wonka gets rid of the workers who are citizens of the country and basically ignores all laws regarding labor. He imports small looking south americans and pays them almost nothing.

2: projecting fault onto children

Basically willy wonka then projects onto the children who are his consumers that they are spoiled. He judges the children ignoring his own numerous flaws.

3: most white children are spoiled

Americans children are rude and ambitious.
Germans are fat, gluttonous and stupid
Rich english children are spoiled rotten
And the only kid with any morals is a poor english kid.

4: loyality to willy wonka is what wins Charlie the ability to become the new wonka and saves his family from crushing unemployment, debt and a life of being poor which required extreme luck"winning ticket" to even be given the chance.

After watching this movie i truely wonder what this movie is trying to tell our children. Slave labor is ok ignoring your own countries employment promblem is fine if you think they are stealing from you. Treat your customers like spoiled rotten children and barely care if they get hurt by your products because they are spoiled. Expect loyality from the poor and run away from home if you have a dream like willy wonka did you will become a mogul of your industry.

Did i miss anything?

a reply to: digital01anarchy

That's pretty well it right there good points made.

How many remakes do they need to do for this movie?

2020: CCF remake all black cast but one white.

2027: Muslim remake of CCF but one white.

2035: Who the hell knows.

sf just for the 255.


Don't ask.

a reply to: digital01anarchy

Did i miss anything?

Yes, the point of the story.
Roald Dahl was writing about children, for children. He was writing in England in the 1960's and his story reflects that. Charlie wins the factory, not because of his loyalty to Willy Wonka, but because he is the only child who behaved himself and had good manners.

Yes, Dahl wrote in some stereotyped characters: all Americans are loud and annoying, all Germans are demanding and bossy. He did that in a number of his books and it merely reflects his own prejudices and his own sense of humour.

The story is trying to tell children that no good ever comes from being obnoxious, or greedy or selfish. The story is set in a factory, because, to Charlie, it is the most wondrous thing he can imagine - unlimited chocolate as opposed to cabbage soup once a day. It's supposed to have an almost otherwordly quailty to it - it's so far from Charlie's day to day life - which explains why there are no normal workers there. Read the book and you'll see what I mean.

It's a book first and foremost.

originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: digital01anarchy

Did i miss anything?

Yes, the point of the story.
Roald Dahl was writing about children, for children. He was writing in England in the 1960's and his story reflects that. Charlie wins the factory, not because of his loyalty to Willy Wonka, but because he is the only child who behaved himself and had good manners.

Yes, Dahl wrote in some stereotyped characters: all Americans are loud and annoying, all Germans are demanding and bossy. He did that in a number of his books and it merely reflects his own prejudices and his own sense of humour.

The story is trying to tell children that no good ever comes from being obnoxious, or greedy or selfish. The story is set in a factory, because, to Charlie, it is the most wondrous thing he can imagine - unlimited chocolate as opposed to cabbage soup once a day. It's supposed to have an almost otherwordly quailty to it - it's so far from Charlie's day to day life - which explains why there are no normal workers there. Read the book and you'll see what I mean.

This is about the remake willy wonka not the gene wilder wonka.

Yes they copied some of it but also added to the original story. Aka umpa lumpas being small south americans? Not orange? All the children are still white really?The contest was global it even showed japan. Willy wonka building a palace of chocolate for an indian prince.i dont think we are talking about the remake

originally posted by: digital01anarchy

originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: digital01anarchy

Did i miss anything?

Yes, the point of the story.
Roald Dahl was writing about children, for children. He was writing in England in the 1960's and his story reflects that. Charlie wins the factory, not because of his loyalty to Willy Wonka, but because he is the only child who behaved himself and had good manners.

Yes, Dahl wrote in some stereotyped characters: all Americans are loud and annoying, all Germans are demanding and bossy. He did that in a number of his books and it merely reflects his own prejudices and his own sense of humour.

The story is trying to tell children that no good ever comes from being obnoxious, or greedy or selfish. The story is set in a factory, because, to Charlie, it is the most wondrous thing he can imagine - unlimited chocolate as opposed to cabbage soup once a day. It's supposed to have an almost otherwordly quailty to it - it's so far from Charlie's day to day life - which explains why there are no normal workers there. Read the book and you'll see what I mean.

This is about the remake willy wonka not the gene wilder wonka.

Yes they copied some of it but also added to the original story. Aka umpa lumpas being small south americans? Not orange? All the children are still white really?The contest was global it even showed japan. Willy wonka building a palace of chocolate for an indian prince.i dont think you are talking about the remake.

a reply to: digital01anarchy

It's the same story. Prince Pondicherry is in ch 2 of the book, and the Oompa Loompas are alluded to as being South American as they love cocoa beans in their home country, that's why they came to work for Willy Wonka; they didn't want to be paid, they just loved chocolate.

I don't know why the Oompa Loompa's aren't orange in your remake, they used to be. Also, the story was always global, that's why Americans and Germans got to enter. It sounds identical except for the colour of the Oompa Loompas.

originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: digital01anarchy

Did i miss anything?

Yes, the point of the story.
Roald Dahl was writing about children, for children. He was writing in England in the 1960's and his story reflects that. Charlie wins the factory, not because of his loyalty to Willy Wonka, but because he is the only child who behaved himself and had good manners.

Yes, Dahl wrote in some stereotyped characters: all Americans are loud and annoying, all Germans are demanding and bossy. He did that in a number of his books and it merely reflects his own prejudices and his own sense of humour.

The story is trying to tell children that no good ever comes from being obnoxious, or greedy or selfish. The story is set in a factory, because, to Charlie, it is the most wondrous thing he can imagine - unlimited chocolate as opposed to cabbage soup once a day. It's supposed to have an almost otherwordly quailty to it - it's so far from Charlie's day to day life - which explains why there are no normal workers there. Read the book and you'll see what I mean.

This is my opinion of the movie +1 for the op who posted this comment! Thank you. Not every kids movie is supposed to reflect how unfair and miserable today's issues are. Most kids movies are supposed to teach kids 1 or 2 things about how to be good children.

It is the ADULTS who read into the movie too much and don't take the movie at face value. If that was the case I could make every Disney movie or Pixar movie sound like the worst translation ever in what children are supposed to learn from them.

I hated the remake. Gene Wilder and the oompa loompas were about the only parts of the original I enjoyed though.

originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: digital01anarchy

It's the same story. Prince Pondicherry is in ch 2 of the book, and the Oompa Loompas are alluded to as being South American as they love cocoa beans in their home country, that's why they came to work for Willy Wonka; they didn't want to be paid, they just loved chocolate.

I don't know why the Oompa Loompa's aren't orange in your remake, they used to be. Also, the story was always global, that's why Americans and Germans got to enter. It sounds identical except for the colour of the Oompa Loompas.

They all look identical though, just not orange. In fact, every ommpa lumpa in the Johnny Depp version was play by the same one actor.

Did i miss anything?

Yep...

Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show,
I should really just relax

- MST3K