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Philosophy, Art & Zeitgeist

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posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 04:42 AM
I must admit this is more a question to philosophers, than a well thought out presentation of my thoughts.
Don't we observe art in retrospective as cultural frame of the time it was made?
What if we apply that to our current art, pop culture, music industry, high end art for the rich, ...we're talking about a seriously divided crowd.

Pop culture plus music industry are sluts.

teen vogue
What exactly does the "artist" in this case stand for, besides being a pin up for young girls?
What does that say about our society?
Our art is struggling to survive. The cool ones, the kids playing the streets, photographing cool stuff, building stuff, making events happening, ... those doing what art is supposed to do, describe what we're going through.
Are we so fixated on relationships and sex?

And high end art?

Hm? Prostitution and sex in general is the cultural frame of our society?

And what are the philosophical take aways from that? Our high standards of living have freed us up to behave like wild animals? The always latent relationship of people with money (john) and people needing money (prostitutes) playing out in this customer artist relationship?
Didn't we collectively as hobby or otherwise philosophists imagine if people wouldn't have to worry about existential stuff, they would "evolve mentally"? Underestimated the power of sex?
Does that imply all relationships in our current times are like John and the ladies?

As you notice, just questions. I hope you read it as what if story. And observations.

posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 05:07 AM

Omg..that is not art to me... what is she staring so intensely at? I prefer art that hints at sexuality..a subtle suggestiveness, not full blown in your face.

I think that is lacking sometimes in today's world. A friend once told me that art, no matter what form of expression it takes, is first and foremost created from emotion (passion, love, beauty, pain, sadness). When it becomes about money or notoriety it's missing the very thing that makes it beautiful..the human factor.

I think sometimes we are too busy chasing the old mighty dollar or trying to gain notoriety ...maybe we've forgotten why we create art in the first was never about money..or never should've been IMO.

Just random thoughts..sorry if I'm rambling...too early...

*yawns and goes back to bed*

edit on 8-12-2016 by blend57 because: meh..not editing too early.. *yawn*

posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 07:21 AM
a reply to: Peeple

As your butt-crack image plainly dictates with its message: Don't look too deeply into the human psyche, you won't like it.

posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 10:08 AM
The comments so far have me cracking up!!!

You raise some interesting questions, Peeple. I think perhaps our obsession with sex entertainment (I can't bring myself to call it art!) is a result of several factors--

1. Need for money drives most of us to work non-fulfilling jobs which don't utilize our true talents and interests.
2. Leisure time is now (primarily) filled with passive activity.
(Get home from demoralizing job, turn on tv, images flashing appeal to our reptillian nature.)

It's a cheap thrill which is attainable to anyone, at any time. It's manufactured to keep us at our basest levels.

It's one way to feel powerful, as our sexuality holds tremendous power (which is wasted unless used properly--a huge creative force). In the case of passive image-based sexual thrill, the power is rendered impotent once tapped (my guess).
Some use sexuality to lord power over others, which I believe is where the john/prostitute dynamic comes into play-- though who exactly is wielding the power in this case is (I believe) debatable.
edit on 8-12-2016 by zosimov because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 8 2016 @ 12:24 PM
Looks like art from Idiocracy where no deep thoughts and emotions are possible anymore, only basics. But that`s exactly where we are no surprise here.

So, enjoy your GMO Mac while watching your favourite show.

posted on Dec, 9 2016 @ 04:11 AM

originally posted by: Peeple
imagine if people wouldn't have to worry about existential stuff, they would "evolve mentally"?

Philosophically, scientifically, wouldn't it be true that increased ability to live and reproduce, naturally involves increased 'mental abilities'?
The 'fittest' involves the 'mental'...

edit on 9-12-2016 by namelesss because: a comma, just a goddamn comma! Happy? Now you know!

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