Trump's camp on Muslim Registry and Internment Camps

originally posted by: FauxMulder
THE RACIST ARE COMING! THE RACIST ARE COMING! MUSLIMS, RUN! TRUMP IS GOING TO PUT YOU IN INTERNMENT CAMPS!!!!!

Come on man. You even said in your post he has ruled it out. Stop with the fear mongering.

Like I said, my post is fair. So let me ask... Has Trump ever changed his mind? Did he imply that position was contingent on anything, like Muslims reporting bad acts? The people he surrounds himself with and who support him seem very open to these ideas... But you see no cause for concern?

Are the people saying "don't worry about it" the same people who cry an attack on the 2nd Amendment every time someone suggests gun regulation? Or a cry against Christianity when people say "Happy Holidays"? But citing Internment Camps as precedent for a Muslim Registry--- not a religion registry-- just a Muslim Registry... no red flags at all?

Smells like alt-right to me.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: intrptr

The choice is whether to take Trump literally or figuratively.

Or to take Trump by what he says, who he surrounds himself, and what they say...

Not in office yet. Yawn.

All I see on Main stream CNN is Obama and Merkel talking about Democracy and 'people' coming around to democratic ways of thinking. They mean Trump. He's just one guy, and he's not actually in charge.

The sooner he accepts his new role as ring side announcer and chief contract signer, the less he'll be played the fool by all the forces arrayed against him.

I don't like it either, just being realistic.

The last time a president tried to change things they killed him with a rifle.

a reply to: Gothmog

So when a source conntected to Obama says it; it is gold truth, the right will run with it to the point of making conspiracies, but Donald Trump the all powerful leader has to say it himself for it to be considered true? Are you saying Donald doesn't speak with his advisors, and these ideas aren't run through him, the new commander in chief, before they reach the press? So his advisors just speak without consulting with donald, when it comes to ideas Donald himself has proposed? If yes, what does that say about his advisors and more so, what does that say about his ability to lead, and control his team as a leader?


I know all those questions make your head hurt and you just want to retreat to the reality your supreme leader has created; so I'll do that for you:

Let's make America great again! Build that wall!

The right is so hypocritical, it is starting to make me physically sick.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: intrptr

The choice is whether to take Trump literally or figuratively.

Or to take Trump by what he says, who he surrounds himself, and what they say...

Not in office yet. Yawn.

I've heard people use this excuse a lot. 'Trump is just words.' 'He's not in office yet.' 'Give him a chance...' 'He doesn't really mean this... don't take him literally' --- Exactly what do you guys base your vote on???

By your own rationale NOTHING Trump says, nor any of the people he hires, nor any of the groups supporting him, nor any of his positions should be taken seriously.

So what the # did you base your vote on, because I'm trying to avoid reminding people that Trump's supporters are traditionally considered to be "uneducated".

a reply to: Butterfinger

Trump also said he would build an enormous wall, and now he is saying he is for more fencing.

Trump also said he would repeal and replace Obamacare, but now he is keeping parts of it.

Trump also said he was pro-choice, but now he is pro-life.

Trump said he was anti-establishment, yet is appointing insiders to his staff.

Should I go on? Do you know where I'm going with this? Do I need to explain any further?

I think I do.

What is going on in that manipulated mind of yours that makes you think he is being honest about this, if he has flip flopped on 90% of his promises in his first week as president elect?

Wow, this spell is worse than Jim Jones.

The camps will be built and operated by private contractors so the Govt. will be clean.

Time to invest in a razor wire mfg. company. imo....

doin business the American way....

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: FauxMulder
THE RACIST ARE COMING! THE RACIST ARE COMING! MUSLIMS, RUN! TRUMP IS GOING TO PUT YOU IN INTERNMENT CAMPS!!!!!

Come on man. You even said in your post he has ruled it out. Stop with the fear mongering.

But you see no cause for concern?.

Nope.

I just see people being irrational because they read the Huffington post too much.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: intrptr

The choice is whether to take Trump literally or figuratively.

Or to take Trump by what he says, who he surrounds himself, and what they say...

Not in office yet. Yawn.

I've heard people use this excuse a lot. 'Trump is just words.' 'He's not in office yet.' 'Give him a chance...' 'He doesn't really mean this... don't take him literally' --- Exactly what do you guys base your vote on???

By your own rationale NOTHING Trump says, nor any of the people he hires, nor any of the groups supporting him, nor any of his positions should be taken seriously.

So what the # did you base your vote on, because I'm trying to avoid reminding people that Trump's supporters are traditionally considered to be "uneducated".

I didn't vote... I don't believe anything my gubment tells me through the TV, I think they are rogue, off the rails, heading us all to destruction, regardless of todays headlines, promises or circus act flair.

I am not taking my seat in Platos Cave, ever again. Except maybe to try and drag others out of the cave.

doom porn much.

Trump may have flip flopped on some issues, but i doubt he could be convinced by his squad to put muslims in camps.

a reply to: odzeandennz

Any feelings on a Muslim registry?

a reply to: Gothmog

LOL... Uh oh... someone got triggered. Sorry they can't all be Breitbart endorsed threads.

a reply to: FelisOrion

Manipulated mind eh? How do you actually consider he would put up internment camps?

With all the rioting, you think he would actually consider this an option that would go off without reprisals?

He may be a buffoon but no one is that stupid to try that in the US nowadays.

Meanwhile there are plenty of rioters and election detractors calling for the extinction of straight white men.

An actual proclamation, far more blatant and concise than anything Trump has said...or inferred.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Do you mean stop the enlightenment? Stop showing evidence of the alt-right's movement to the White House? Stop pointing out how the Trump admin is empowering White Nationalist/Islamophobia hate groups?

Just a head's up, but these people already know that. Take 30min of your time and look into other right wing sites/forums and you'll see exactly what I mean. They only feign ignorance here.

I've been closely watching all of these comments as they've come out. The fact that the wretched Frank Gaffney is also involved in this crap should let knowledgeable observers understand the seriousness of what we're dealing with.

Though I wonder if people realize that the Japanese internment victims were also given financial reparations afterwards? In 1988, Reagan signed into law the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 which gave the American survivors of the Japanese internment camps $20,000 each (totaling around $1.6 billion). Adjusted for inflation, that's close the $40,000 in today's money. Foreign Japanese people who were interned received $5,000 each from a separate lawsuit.

So if they're truly looking at internment camps, they better be willing to pay up afterwards.

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: FelisOrion
With all the rioting, you think he would actually consider this an option that would go off without reprisals?

His supporters seem quick to label protestors and rioters as terrorists... Might they support that rioters along with Muslims belong in such camps-- for the sake of national security, of course?

We have yet to see the limit of how low Trump supporters will go in supporting their d-bag leader. So far they excuse and support all things despicable by pointing out something else they think is worse... Why not this?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: FelisOrion
With all the rioting, you think he would actually consider this an option that would go off without reprisals?

His supporters seem quick to label protestors and rioters as terrorists... Might they support that rioters along with Muslims belong in such camps-- for the sake of national security, of course?

We have yet to see the limit of how low Trump supporters will go in supporting their d-bag leader. So far they excuse and support all things despicable by pointing out something else they think is worse... Why not this?

The rioters are terrorists since they are using terror to try and promote a political ideology or achieve a political goal.

This is the actual definition of terrorism.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Because its a declaration of war inside our own borders.

All he has done so far is soften his campaign rhetoric, he may not even prosecute Hillary for goodness sake.

If he doesn't jail her up, then what are the chances of a freaking internment camp for citizens? Every western country would flip against us as well as the UN and probably Russia, because they dont even throw people in camps!

Enough with the fear mongering.

TRUMP: — rule it out but we would have to be very vigilant. We’re going to have to be very smart. We’re going to have to be very rigid and very vigilant. And if we’re not very, very strong and very, very smart, we have a big, big problem coming up. We’ve already had the problem. Check out the World Trade Center, OK, check out the Pentagon. We’ve already had the problem. But I would — I would say you have to be extremely strong. You have to keep your eyes open.
And by the way, Muslims in our country have to report bad acts, OK?



that's a bunch of word salad and he didn't even answer the question. OMG, he's a idiot.

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: FelisOrion
With all the rioting, you think he would actually consider this an option that would go off without reprisals?

His supporters seem quick to label protestors and rioters as terrorists... Might they support that rioters along with Muslims belong in such camps-- for the sake of national security, of course?

We have yet to see the limit of how low Trump supporters will go in supporting their d-bag leader. So far they excuse and support all things despicable by pointing out something else they think is worse... Why not this?

The rioters are terrorists since they are using terror to try and promote a political ideology or achieve a political goal.

This is the actual definition of terrorism.

See what I mean... and if Muslims resisted internment camp... to the point of physical opposition, I suppose you would have your justification.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

No, and there aren't going to be any internment camps.

a reply to: Advantage

Do you advocate for OUR OWN homeless (who are human beings as well and if lucky may have a cardboard box to sleep in) to be shoved aside in favor of granting incoming immigrants food, shelter, clothing, medical FIRST? Before our own homeless, needy citizens? It's all fine and good for the US to extend its generosity to those fleeing war, oppression, death...but not to the exclusion of those who should be our PRIMARY concern FIRST. Our own vast backyard, by rights (at least to me), should be cleaned up first. Our own citizens taken care of FIRST. We are indeed a wealthy country, a generous country to be sure...but even our deep pockets do have limits and it's an absolutely appalling idea that those limits would be met, over taxed even, by putting citizens of another country ABOVE our own, natural born, needy.

Interment camps? No. A registry? Yes, and geared towards those from countries prone to producing islamic radicals, and not limited to just muslims. That is neither racist nor "phobic". It's realistic and cautionary. The safety of our country and its citizens should take precedence over and above reacting to and being victimized by childish finger pointing, name calling and/or any slur's or dispersions cast our way. Where is the REAL problem with that? There are multitudes of "why's, wherefore's, what if's, could be's and maybe's" regarding implications of ANY government policies. All of which are, hopefully, weighed with an eye toward/for the greater good of our country. After all, aren't we ALL "registered" one way or another as it is? If it came down to registering every person, nationality, or religion that steps foot on our soil just to avoid last ditch efforts of childish slur's being hurled at our policy makers in an attempt to verbally derail the lengths we would go to to insure the safety of our country/citizens...so be it. It's kind of like wearing seatbelts, better safe than sorry.