Here it comes California, Be Prepared!

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: incoserv
Just in case it's not, the issue and cause (if the effect is legitimate) wouldn't be light, but gravity.

Is the gravity between a full moon different that any other moon phases and why?

Read post in its entirety.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: searcherfortruth
There has been documentation that earthquakes are stronger when there is a full moon...

Why would the amount of light we see striking the moon have any impact in regards earthquakes?

Are you suggesting a correlation between werewolves and earthquakes?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Not sure I buy into it either, but I try to keep an open mind about it.

TrueAmerican did a pretty good thread about this Super Moon, you should give it a read:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: incoserv
Read post in its entirety.

I did. I am specifically questioning the general statement in regards full moons.

Do you have an answer?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Are you suggesting a correlation between werewolves and earthquakes?

Michael J. Fox will not bite me.

I'm hoping for a 9.1 earthcracker, right under the San Andreas fault.

OK, not really. But if it The Big One knocks those damn Californians off their high horse, that wouldn't be a bad thing.
And if it destroyed the Hollywood film industry, that really wouldn't be a bad thing.

originally posted by: eriktheawful
Not sure I buy into it either, but I try to keep an open mind about it.

Which is why I did some digging earlier last week and found only one recent article linking moon phases to earthquakes. At this point it is not a 'well known' theory as described in the Original Post.

TrueAmerican did a pretty good thread about this Super Moon, you should give it a read:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks, I will check it out.

Californians depend on quakes of 5 or less to stir our lattes.

We don't really consider it an "earthquake" Until it hits a 6 or better.

We bet on the smaller temblors to see who can get closest to the actual magnitude.

But just a note to the rest of the US:

If anything nasty happens to California, the rest of the nation loses about 40% of your produce and a major portion of you income tax revenue.

So if California sinks, we pull the rest of the nation under with us.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The moon is now 17,000 miles closer to Earth than the average distance.

Someone could do the math and find out the gravity change with inverse square law.

I have to go to work haha.

originally posted by: Reverbs
The moon is now 17,000 miles closer to Earth than the average distance.

I was not questioning the super moon, just the comment about all full moons.

Perhaps the perihelion and aphelion act in conjunction to the perigee and apogee.


(going to have to leave now, too much thinking this early in the morning)

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: incoserv
Just in case it's not, the issue and cause (if the effect is legitimate) wouldn't be light, but gravity.

Is the gravity between a full moon different that any other moon phases and why?

Deny Ignorance.

In astronomy and other sciences, a related term – perigean tides – refers to the higher tides that can occur when a new or full moon and the month’s perigee coincide, as they fairly frequently do. Simply put, an extra-close new or full moon causes higher-than-usual perigean tides.

During the time of a supermoon – or any new or full moon – our satellite is in line with the sun. At that time, the sun and moon’s gravitational effects combine.

I won’t bore you (or scare you!) with the math, but the variation from minimum lunar pull to maximum pull is roughly 23 percent. That sounds like a lot. However, it amounts to  less than 2 ten-thousandths of the mass (or less precisely, the “weight”) of the moon.

But, you might counter, I said earlier than an extra-close full moon causes higher-than-usual perigean tides. The tides are a very different situation from human beings. Tides work through what is called a differential gravitational effect. Specifically, the force of gravity exerted on the part of the Earth opposite the moon (the far side of Earth, as seen from the moon) is slightly less than the force of gravity exerted on the part of the Earth directly beneath the moon (the Earth’s near side, as seen from the moon) at any given time. Why? Because there’s an additional distance – about 8,000 miles – from one side of Earth to the other. The force of gravity weakens rapidly with increasing distance, producing the differential.

The result of this differential gravitational effect of the moon is that our planet is stretched slightly, along a line between the Earth and moon. The body of the Earth is fairly rigid, so it does not stretch much, but the oceans are much more easily moved. Thus the effect piles up water on either side of Earth, and these piles of water – created by the differential gravitational effect – are the tides. Note that, on average, the tidal effect is quite small. It raises tides only a few feet across an 8,000-mile-wide planet Earth.

earthsky.org...

a reply to: eisegesis

That is specifically dealing with ocean tides, not seismic events.

The displacement of water is what's important.

If you had a table with one short leg and placed a tub of water on top, the differential in gravity during a supermoon may cause the water to recede more to one side, causing the table to wobble. The last paragraph in my previous post is key.

a reply to: searcherfortruth

Hmmmm, I'm really not sure what to make of this. I used to subscribe heavily to the moon causing major earthquakes, but I have yet to draw direct conclusion to the moon impacting a specific area. There are too many variables, I do not deny the moons gravity plays a roll on the seismic activity on earth. I do how ever feel at the current time predicting any sort of Seismic activity based on a lunar cycle is at best a stab in the dark.

a reply to: eisegesis

As I said earlier, there has been one published article in regards this theory but it did not mention ocean tides causing seismic events, rather it stressed tidal stretching of the earth's crust.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

My God...I can't believe nobody seemed able to comprehend what you were posting!

Folks - Supermoon = closer moon; gravitational variation = True

Full moon = no shadow on the side of the moon facing us.

Now a valid answer (whether true or not) could be something along the lines of "during a new moon at perigree, the sun's gravity cancels out the additional gravitational pull the moon exerts on Earth." Why just ignore the separate question of full moons vs supermoons?

a reply to: dogstar23

The suns gravity would not cancel out the moons gravity... The sun would still pull on the earth, the earth the moon and in return the moon the earth. These would just be varying levels of gravity, pulling in different directions.

By your assertion at perigree the earth should be most susceptible to earth quakes as two forces are acting on the earth.

This would also be dependent on the earth's position in relation to the sun. Is the earth at aphelion or perihelion?

if the earth is at it's closest possible position with the sun, and opposite the moon is at it's closest possible orbital position, we now have two forces literally stretching the earth. At least that's the way it seems. We could also take into account that Earth's rotation around it's axis would make it bulge further at the equator, the portion closest to the two forces acting upon it.

Eeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh Absolutely mind bending, but not necessarily giving any credit as a cause for earthquakes. As of yet, these tidal forces have played nearly no role in earthquakes that we can prove with out a doubt. Earthquakes happen constantly regardless of the position of the celestial bodies.

I always wonder though, given the moon directly affects our tides.


/sigh..... insomnia induced rant over.

I'v got an idea.... have a lottery, everyone predicting the time and day. Surely someone would cover the time and day, much like 'these' prognosticators... A win, win... when it happens, it will be a win fall for the winn er, and the winner will be able to rebuild, bigger and better....

originally posted by: Rapha
Maybe its time for Hillary use scalar weaponry to cause earthquakes and take the entire blue west coast off into the sunset.

One problem, if Hank Johnson's infamous statement about Guam capsizing is correct then the Hillary's Nu-USA will sink.

WTF, does that have to do with a super moon?? I came to thgias thread to participate in a thread talking about where I live. Not two posts in on an earthquake thread, someone brings up the election and bashes Hilary!!!! Grow Up, post in POLITICAL threads!!

Anyway, yes we are over due!!! Lost my train of thought!!! Be back!