I Didn't Realize How Bad It Was

a reply to: Unity_99


It seems to be as a rule of thumb, when a case of sexual predation gets too close to a Courtroom the plaintiff suddenly has a change of heart, and says they made it all up. The endemic mess in Washington would put ancient Rome to shame, power sex corruption and violence all are roommates. They have to much to loose if it all comes out, the foreign intelligence agencies would know, but the average person hasn't got a clue.

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Metallicus
I now have to admit that I was completely wrong. I always assumed we were talking with intellectual opponents people that really meant what they said...they loved America and Democracy...we had different ideas how to make America great, but we respected the process. Now I see now I was wrong.

You see, in the past when people lost elections they simply rolled up their sleeves and tried to find a better way forward. That way didn't include beating up an old man at the polls, beating down a high school sophomore for her social media post or tearing up buildings and neighborhoods in what can only be called domestic terrorism.

We shook hands with our opponent and said...we will get you next time.

What is going on now is...unnerving. It is surreal.

Now I wonder how bad it would have been had Clinton actually won. I suppose I was naive because look at the establishment Republicans, Democrats and Media all colluding to make sure someone other than their 'chosen one' wouldn't win.

Now I see it...we are fighting pure evil, fascists on the left, but when even JOURNALISTS call for Presidents to be assassinated I have to wonder can I ever have respect for my opponents again? They surely don't respect me.

I am sad that it has come to this...we are ALL in danger people. The Left has gone off the rails with their identity politics, disrespectful name calling and violence.

Sad.

The lunatics protesting do not represent the liberals, or anyone except themselves. It's worth pointing out that lots of traditional liberals voted for Trump, so this isn't a liberal/conservative thing.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out these protesters are being paid by Soros or something equally crazy.

Please don't cast aspersions on your political opposition simply due to the actions of a few a-holes.

Most of the country isn't sweating this election to that extent.

I appreciate that and it is true that most people aren't these idiots, but it is scary that there is an element out there willing to resort to violence. I am a non-violent person so this is really unsettling to me.

a reply to: Metallicus

The groups protesting are puppets. They are young people who were raised in a generation whose parents never said "no" to their kids. Everybody got a trophy or award. Every one of them was told time after time "you're special" and "you're a winner" about issues in which said child wasn't special and half-assed their way to nothingness only to be called a winner regardless. If they wanted a toy, gadget, or justification, all they had to do was whine a bit and mommy and daddy buckled like a soaking wet paper towel tube and gave them what they were whining about in spades. In some small crevasse of my brain I actually feel sorry for these children... they grew up without the privilege of losing, unfulfilled wants, and any understanding of the vital lessons learned by experiencing life kicking you square in the ass. Considering many of these children probably cast their first votes for president in 2008 or 2012, they've never known the feels experienced when the rest of the nation tells you "No, we don't share your vision... now STFU or climb aboard and share the next 4 years' ride. with us." They're parents failed and now the rest of the nation is witnessing their childrens' public temper tantrum because of that failure.

On the plus side, incredibly important lessons are being learned right now. Actions have consequences. Some of these children will likely ruin their entire lives over this... and they will learn "Oh wow, I actually MUST learn to take responsibility for myself" as they appear in front of a judge and a jury. Some of these children will certainly recognize that their inability to handle their own emotions, namely disappointment and dejection, stemmed from a life of not experiencing them when they were young and the cost of failure was comparitively cheap and they will raise their own children differently. Perhaps the next generation will already know what a brutal mistress life can be and recognize that not getting your way from time to time is invaluable and can be quickly recovered from. Some, of course, will raise their own children even more piss-poorly than they, themselves, were raised and we will see a contingent of extremely special snowflakes with skin so thin it whistles in a breeze... and that's OK, too. Life has a funny way of running over those completely unprepared to handle adversity with their eyes wide open, mulching those individuals into obscurity.

So, as a parent I beg all other parents out there: SAY NO TO YOUR KIDS OFTEN! "Buy me that toy!" NO! "Can I have ice cream even though I sassed you?" Ha-Ha... HELL NO! "I didn't do my homework, can I still watch TV?" Hmm, let's see.... HOW ABOUT NO! But temper it with frequent usage of the word "YES," as well. "Will I have to pay you back for this window I broke?" YES! "Do you really expect me to finish my homework on Friday evening before I can do anything fun this weekend?" All signs point to YES! "So I have to do my chores to earn my allowance money AND save the money to buy my own LEGOs?" I'm receiving a message from beyond, om-nom-nom-shabai... om-nom-nom-shabai... it's says YES, YES you do. My kids know that I love them because I tell them I love them now, while they are 8 and 10. But in another 10, 15, 20 years, I want my kids to know that I loved them because I made sure they experienced disappointment when they were young. Further, when tantrums are thrown, and believe me, they are, consequences are swift and often horrifying to them. I have walked out of stores when a tantrum was being thrown, leaving a kicking, screaming child right in the middle of a toy aisle. It is amazing how quickly a tantruming child goes from full meltdown to "Oh crap, he just left me and strangers are pointing at me. Oh crap, oh crap. Daddy! Wait for me!" Toys have been not only taken, but donated to charity. Privileges have been removed, earned rewards have been delayed, and chores have been increased... not because I want to punish my kids, but because I love them enough to tell them life doesn't think they're special in all things and nothing entitles them to get their own way.

a reply to: Greggers

No, they don't, but it's not going to take a great leap of intellect for many to make that connection.

Someone, preferably Clinton, or Obama, or even Sanders, need to get on national TV and say "stand down" or words to that effect.

This is insane. It can't be said often enough, someone is going to get seriously hurt or killed if this keeps up. I was involved in an altercation tonight while buying a gallon of milk at a local supermarket. A supermarket. I actually thought I was going to have to hurt a couple of people...no one needs that on their conscience.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

They are now the easy targets and they have been manipulated by those that are behind the protest.

I gotta say, I did see this coming with a Trump win. It only strengthens our resolve. We made the right choice.

We have exposed the true violent threat within society. Guess what, we were never the extremists.

It feels good.

Points were proven.

Things won't be the same for a while.

Saw video of crap hitting the fan in Austin. Sad how much things change. The blue menace is real.

a reply to: seagull

I just watched a young women protester being interviewed on CNN. She acknowledges people are going to die on both sides. She said it's what's needed for change.

I'm telling you, we are sitting on a powder keg.

Here's a link:

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a reply to: seagull

They are not going to do it, I just watch the news spewing more rhetoric on Trumps and his evil ways, he will eat the children and chew the minorities.

This is media fueled as much as Hillary campaign propaganda. They are sitting back and enjoying the show and the mess they have created.

I see this going well into the inauguration.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Greggers

No, they don't, but it's not going to take a great leap of intellect for many to make that connection.

Someone, preferably Clinton, or Obama, or even Sanders, need to get on national TV and say "stand down" or words to that effect.

This is insane. It can't be said often enough, someone is going to get seriously hurt or killed if this keeps up. I was involved in an altercation tonight while buying a gallon of milk at a local supermarket. A supermarket. I actually thought I was going to have to hurt a couple of people...no one needs that on their conscience.

I agree with you. Let's hope the President stands up and says something.

I live in the midwest, in a State that was a swing state not too many years ago, and which is still deeply divided politically.

Like most staunch mid-westerners, we do our political pontificating in the privacy of our own homes. I can't even relate to people who act out like this in the streets.

The closest I've come to an altercation was having someone on an elevator confide in me that Trump was sort of "offensive" and she hoped he cleaned up his act. So, I'm pretty safe here.

I wish it was the same elsewhere.

It seems like you've got some crazies up there in the pacific northwest.

a reply to: loam

Have you seen any arrest? this terrorism, is not other way to call it.

Indeed it boils down to that these attacks, don't know who they are up against. Who that person is that they attack or what they have been through and are capable of. No, that's not a threat, but reality that one has to face. I just really hope this winds down asap. Sure have protests, even rally for states to succeed the union, etc., but threatening people and harming them to even causing a civil war over this isn't going to fair well for anyone even those who are ranting against the results of the election.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Maybe theyre simply heeding Trump's calls for a REVOLUTION when it seemed like Romney was going to win the popular vote yet lose the election to the electoral college.

Now its Hillary who has more popular votes yet lost the election.

He hasnt even been sworn in yet and the hypocrisy begins.

I guess calls for a REVOLUTION are only valid when they benefit the Orange one.

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Greggers

No, they don't, but it's not going to take a great leap of intellect for many to make that connection.

Someone, preferably Clinton, or Obama, or even Sanders, need to get on national TV and say "stand down" or words to that effect.

This is insane. It can't be said often enough, someone is going to get seriously hurt or killed if this keeps up. I was involved in an altercation tonight while buying a gallon of milk at a local supermarket. A supermarket. I actually thought I was going to have to hurt a couple of people...no one needs that on their conscience.

I agree with you. Let's hope the President stands up and says something.

I live in the midwest, in a State that was a swing state not too many years ago, and which is still deeply divided politically.

Like most staunch mid-westerners, we do our political pontificating in the privacy of our own homes. I can't even relate to people who act out like this in the streets.

The closest I've come to an altercation was having someone on an elevator confide in me that Trump was sort of "offensive" and she hoped he cleaned up his act. So, I'm pretty safe here.

I wish it was the same elsewhere.

It seems like you've got some crazies up there in the pacific northwest.

There has been about eight mass shooting in the last year in Washington State. Those weren't terrorism cases for example but people in dispute with others(linked to mental health issues not being properly taken care of). Speaking of that there's a new gun law that was voted in that is supposed to help keep guns out of the hands of people with mental issues that may be a threat to themselves and others(however, there are concerns that it may carry over for more than that).

Now if those who end up carrying out the mass shootings were to carry over politically, we're doomed=Once known as the Serial killer capital of the world just got more violent.

BTW the Seattle shooting yesterday wasn't related(and three miles from) the protest location. There's at least that despite overall violence, etc. growing there.

originally posted by: gladtobehere

Trump called for violence ie a REVOLUTION...

Lie.

But I will concede his tweets called for a march on Washington. Silly rabbit. The internet is forever.

a reply to: gladtobehere

...and that somehow excuses this?

That's a fairly skewed view of things.

a reply to: loam

He called for a REVOLUTION.

But for some odd reason, he deleted those tweets, how convenient.

In 2012 Trump called for a revolution saying "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy".


a reply to: seagull

No, not at all.

Trump's calls for a "REVOLUTION", "marching on DC" and "fighting like hell" in no way excuses this.

I just fail to see why hes taking issue with people who are acting on his orders.

a reply to: gladtobehere

I see a 2012 The Hill article asserting as you have his call for Revolution, which they claim was deleted.

Apologies. If their claim was true, which given the media's hatred for him because of his birther stance could have been made up, I find it equally distasteful.

But you said he he called for violence. That wasn't asserted anywhere.

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The sitting president should be doing everything in his power to put a stop to this stupidity. His silence on this is deafening.

The US is in trouble when people are protesting democracy and the will of the People. I read somewhere on FB that protesting elections was very american....wtf seriously? This election exposed the dumb elements in american politics.

As an non-american I say the US made the right choice, the D is what the US needs right now.

originally posted by: Dembow
The sitting president should be doing everything in his power to put a stop to this stupidity. His silence on this is deafening.

His silence is actually relieving, if you want the truth. In the past few years, when civil unrest has risen it's head in one of America's urban jungles, his contributions have done little more than egg these asshats on. "If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon," "Ferguson protests are a necessary inconvenience," he tsk-tsked violent protestors in Baltimore while simultaneously giving credence to their riots by redirecting his rebuke from the rioters to the police. WHen he opens his mouth in the face of one of these incidents, historically things take a much darker turn.