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originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog
a reply to: Metallicus
You do realize that if the result was opposite and Clinton won we would be seeing the same protests and crybaby antics. The election was so divisive it was practically inevitable.
originally posted by: poncho1982
originally posted by: JustinT
originally posted by: ozb1777
The whole thing illustrates how pathetic America has become ,a bunch of brainwashed [by the media ,Hollywood ,Disney ,the BS in Universities ,etc] whiny ,spoilt ,lazy ,me me me i, i ,i self obsessed brats ,tantrum throwing little hypocrites and their pathetic little ''Causes '' they fight for, the LGBT Community,the Muslims ,Mexican [here illegally ,do the know the definition of the word illegal ? if you tore the page out of the dictionary and stuffed it down their throat they still wouldnt want to know ,just throw another tantrum] Pro abortion ,anti gun where does it end ,Anti everything !!!!!!!! ? .Make more threats, break some shop windows ,burn a car .If Clinton was President im sure the [''EVIL'' ] Conservatives would not have been happy, BUT not resorted to this childish carry on and ''NOT MY PRESIDENT '' are these people adults ? NO ! just the spoilt brat generation ,masquerading as ADULTS .But now the Bolsheviks are threatening to kill the ''Evil'' Royal family ,Lefties never change ,they are all about one thing, Destroying Society, and they Revel in it !
If only millennials voted Hillary would have won every single state. The country is becoming more liberal. The GOP can either evolve or in the future they will never win. This election was an exception because it was so bizarre. Hillary vs Ted Cruz would have been an easy win for Hillary. Trump's strategy was new to politics. He figured out how to use the media to his advantage, along with divisive rhetoric. Hopefully we never see that again. Conservatives are dying out and old. They would not protest. Liberals were quiet because they thought Hillary was going to win easily. Once Trump won, it became real. Now they want to make sure he doesn't implement his campaign promises.
Do you honestly think all millenials are Liberal?
You're truly mistaken. Trump won, and I know a lot of millenials that voted for him. I work with a lot of young people.
You say the GOP needs to change, when they just won all three branches? Yes even the judiciary as well. Liberals have been saying the GOP needs to evolve for a very long time, and Trump just destroyed BOTH parties. Sit back,and let that sink in for a minute. It's not the GOP that needs to evolve, it just did. The DNC needs to take a look at WHY they lost and realize they abandoned the middle class in favor of elites, colleges, and the poor. The reason Trump won is because he had mass appeal that the DNC, and the media failed to see. They ridiculed anyone who brought it up, and smugly proclaimed their own superiority. Not the way to win an election, by insulting your opposition's supporters CONSTANTLY, obviously. Now, some (even MSNBC) realized their errors, but the zealots continue their failed tactics.
Trump knew exactly what to say to get the media to run with their false narratives, thus giving Trump even more support. He did indeed play them.
Get over it.
Spirimiribilus wrote:
The Donny (or his twitter fixer) says he admires their passion? Right after he says how unfair they're being? Like I said - watch what's happening right in front of your own eyes
Bigfatfurrytexan wrote:
95% of our landmass contains about half of the supporters for the convervative platform. The remaining 5% contains our cities. Two completely different life experiences needing 2 completely different sets of laws to meet their daily needs. And one over reaching Federal government that steps all over all of it. Thats what is wrong here. If we were less centralized, none o this would really be this divisive because it wouldn't matter as much.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
I used to live in a very rural area. We had crime. Even violent crime. There would obviously be more in a densely populated area. How should we handle similar crimes differently in different areas? I'm asking
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So, are you making a case for Sharia law? Different beliefs require different kinds of legislation? There aren't atheists in rural areas? No devoutly religious people living right down the street from me here in the city - in more than one house even? Brooklyn, Boston - Philly - godless heathens?
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Metallicus
Really? Because I never saw any support for Obama at all from the conservative camp so don't be angry the rest of us aren't rolling over and letting a sexual predator con man as our president.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: Hermit777
Obama says for the good of the country there will be no transition i will stay until there can be a clean new election.
And what do you think would be the result of such an action?
This would put the US in shut down mode. It would serve no purpose and I don't think the people would turn on each other, I think it would be the straw that broke the camel's back, and the people would band together and revolt against the real enemy.
Declaring martial law and counterfeiting the election would be the same as declaring out and out war on the American people. Unless they are hoping for the immigrants to do their dirty work for them, and I don't see immigrants falling for that ruse, so they would be pulling the plug on America. Americans would survive, the government wouldn't.
The best we could hope for is the Phoenix born from the ashes.
originally posted by: JustinT
Is Trump going to last? The people don't want him to be president. If he stays, he's not going to be able to do much with him being so strongly apposed by the people. Trump doesn't want to be president. You could see it as he watched the results, as he gave a clearly unscripted acceptance speech, as he met Barack for the first time after the election. You can feel it in his desire to want to maintain his primary residence in NY, as if the White House is just some side venture he can check in on when not managing his main properties - this man has no idea what he has gotten into. He entered this race for notoriety and an attempt to boost his own public profile. *Actually* being President does nothing for him. The more I think about it the more I could see him choosing not to run in 2020 if he thinks thinks aren't going his way.
Remember, this man lives in palatial mansions. The white house is a work building and the presidency is very stressful. He never thought he was going to win. He told Kasich that if he was his VP that he could handle all governing, he's just appear when he needed on TV. If he offered that deal to Kasich, I bet he said the same thing to Pence. I wonder how long he'll be able to put up the act. He also said he wants to do rallies while he's president. In other words, he enjoys running for president not being president.
The part that worries me the most is that he himself said he doesn't like to read, he likes to go with his gut. We saw in the election what his gut feeling is like. His ideas are often way out there. I hope he doesn't get us into a war.
The people don't want him to be president. Reps are scared at what his win will mean in the future. Now that his supporters are seeing its clearly obvious he was running on lies that he will never implement - do they still want him? He doesn't want to be president. What's next?
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: JustinT
Is Trump going to last? The people don't want him to be president. If he stays, he's not going to be able to do much with him being so strongly apposed by the people. Trump doesn't want to be president. You could see it as he watched the results, as he gave a clearly unscripted acceptance speech, as he met Barack for the first time after the election. You can feel it in his desire to want to maintain his primary residence in NY, as if the White House is just some side venture he can check in on when not managing his main properties - this man has no idea what he has gotten into. He entered this race for notoriety and an attempt to boost his own public profile. *Actually* being President does nothing for him. The more I think about it the more I could see him choosing not to run in 2020 if he thinks thinks aren't going his way.
Remember, this man lives in palatial mansions. The white house is a work building and the presidency is very stressful. He never thought he was going to win. He told Kasich that if he was his VP that he could handle all governing, he's just appear when he needed on TV. If he offered that deal to Kasich, I bet he said the same thing to Pence. I wonder how long he'll be able to put up the act. He also said he wants to do rallies while he's president. In other words, he enjoys running for president not being president.
The part that worries me the most is that he himself said he doesn't like to read, he likes to go with his gut. We saw in the election what his gut feeling is like. His ideas are often way out there. I hope he doesn't get us into a war.
The people don't want him to be president. Reps are scared at what his win will mean in the future. Now that his supporters are seeing its clearly obvious he was running on lies that he will never implement - do they still want him? He doesn't want to be president. What's next?
I agree with a lot of what you said, but before acknowledging those parts, I want to challenge one thing: The people clearly do want him to be President, or he wouldn't be. Even liberals voted for the guy -- just look at what happened with working class white males in the rust belt.
To your point, yes, I acknowledge that a large group of people do feel very passionately that they don't want him to be president -- much moreso than one would find after a typical election loss -- but Trump still got the votes he needed.
Now, the parts I do agree with. I fear that the rest of your post could be dead-on accurate.
I truly hope Kasich's claims about the deal offered to him by Trump are incorrect -- as the Trump camp claims -- but I trust Kasich more than I trust Trump, and I have a feeling they're probably true.
Is having the VP do the work of the POTUS an impeachable offense? I'm just asking. I don't know. But it seems pretty damned suspect to me.
In any case, I am giving Trump the benefit of the doubt because he won fair and square and, for the good of our republic, it makes sense to let the man prove himself.
Is Trump going to last? The people don't want him to be president. If he stays, he's not going to be able to do much with him being so strongly apposed by the people.
Letting the electoral college pick Hillary would restore his brand.
Lastly, he's 70. If he's president he'll spend his final years in the white house. By the time its over he'll be 78.
After accumulation billions, would he want to spend his final years doing something he doesn't want to do?
Um. The people voted the guy into office in a landslide.