Bernie Sanders "embarrassment" comment

originally posted by: JesusXst
a reply to: xuenchen

That's hillarius!

He's almost a geriatric patient now, i can't see that guy running for anything except a washroom by 2020.

bernie is healthier now than hillary was 20 years ago.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Imo the only thing Bernie had going more than Hillary is that his last name is not Clinton. Smart Americans want nothing to do with his socialist views, imo, I could be wrong though, I admit.

a reply to: carewemust

Everyone wants to talk about age and health...

...yet Trump looks like a candidate for a heart attack, he's an over weight old man.

originally posted by: AlaskanDad
a reply to: carewemust

Everyone wants to talk about age and health...

...yet Trump looks like a candidate for a heart attack, he's an over weight old man.

Trump was campaigning like a young kid, the guy has YUGE stanima.

a reply to: VinylTyrant

Well, I know quite a few educated Americans whom I consider to be highly intelligent, & they were pretty excited about Bernie's campaign. I'm not a socialist myself, but I know there's no such thing as one garden variety socialist philosophy. The nuances are
surprising when you look into it.
That said, most of the Bernie fans I know were not at all enthused about Hillary, let alone what the DNC did to him.
My take is that Bernie was to the left what Trump was to the right--a populist reaction to the establishment & do-nothing business as usual in Washington.
It would have been great to see them go head to head in the election.

a reply to: Gandalf77

I can't say you're wrong as I never said I was right. I admit it would've been harder to win if Bernie was up there, I mean, most people like free sh#t can't deny that. Me I paid my tuition and work for a living so Bernie doesn't appeal to me. Like Trump says, I never gave up.

a reply to: AlaskanDad

But there's no stoppin that train baby..the man's a legend

a reply to: VinylTyrant

I'm in the same boat, man. Worked my way through grad school, & I've always been employed in some capacity.
I believe in hard work & brains all the way.
And philosophically speaking, I think socialism has its problems. It's not a panacea, especially in a country as big as the US.
I would be lying, however, if I didn't admit that some very smart people I know have articulated some excellent arguments to me regarding their support for Bernie.

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: VinylTyrant

I'm in the same boat, man. Worked my way through grad school, & I've always been employed in some capacity.
I believe in hard work & brains all the way.
And philosophically speaking, I think socialism has its problems. It's not a panacea, especially in a country as big as the US.
I would be lying, however, if I didn't admit that some very smart people I know have articulated some excellent arguments to me regarding their support for Bernie.

Yep.

My appreciation for certain socialist policies isn't because I want free stuff. I make more than enough money to pay for everything I personally need.

I support single payer in particular because I think it is the only solution that's going to work. Capitalism, I believe, has failed us in the insurance industry.

Having said that, I fully support Trump for the next 4 years on whatever his ideas are for healthcare reform. And if he can make it work, good for him. If not, there's always single payer later on.

a reply to: xuenchen

I actually don't see this as a divisive comment. He's saying the democrats have failed the very constituency they claim to serve. He's 100% right, and thats why there are now Trump democrats.

And truth be told, if any of the other GOP candidates had won the nomination, they would have suffered a loss from the very same group.

Let's face it. Trump is neither a conservative or a liberal. In fact, I think history will write that a true independent won this election.

a reply to: VinylTyrant

There is a reason that the DNC and the Hillary campaign had to liaise to fiddle her into the nomination VinylTyrant.

Not only was he not a Clinton, or one of the people who had sat by as war was made, making no noise, voting in line with the rest like a good little soldier, he also has a record longer than I am, of consistency. Ergo, his public position is his actual position. He never had a plan to wreck the rights of people who only just (in historical terms) gained equality with their fellow human beings. He never had a plan to scapegoat the working poor, despite the fact that it is THEY who produce wealth for those at the top, not those at the top who create it for others. He never had a plan to make more war, to increase the size of the cycle of death. He never had a plan for any of those things that people get frustrated about when dealing with governments.

No. He had a plan to free people from unreasonable burdens of debt, a plan to address the growing gap between rich and poor, despite the fact that working people are working longer and harder than ever before. He had a plan for the education of ALL the young, for healthcare that would not cost the GDP of a mid sized nation to administrate, he had a plan to bring the troops home and damned well keep them there, and a plan to make war instead on the companies which cheat the taxman. Essentially, he had a plan which sought to steal no ones rights, to hurt no one, to heal wounds, rather than cause them.

The man received great support, and would have wiped the floor with all comers given half a chance, but he got stiffed. People are wrongly calling this latest election a landslide. If Bernie had been put forward, I doubt it would have been a landslide for him, but it would have been a damned sight more like one than this elections result.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Well I would certainly agree that the race would've been closer if he ran and imo would've been more respectable possibly with some statesmanship involved. Clinton made the process a disgrace. The way she tried to smear Don from the beginning of the debates instead of challenging the issues was on her. She spit first and last venom. Nasty woman.
Bernie I never really got into besides seeing some highlights on his stances. I wasn't for most of them but could respect those that were.

a reply to: VinylTyrant

I agree with you about Hillary, she was disgusting.

I think the trouble is though, that so is Trump. He is not a classy man, he IS a bigot, and he IS rude, and he IS obnoxious, and he IS every bit as worrying to people who understand law, the constitution, and ethics and morality, as she has suggested he is.

It just so happens, that Hillary was never in a position to complain about that stuff. Mr Sanders though... different story. Moral fortitude like that man has is what wins elections!

originally posted by: Ohanka
Bernie, there is a reason they voted for Trump.

Because you endorsed Hillary. You were supposed to be the voice of the working class, and yet you came out in endorsement of Hillary, the ultimate wall street candidate.

This is entirely on you.

Nope... you are looking at symptoms.... the cause is that he was more popular thsn Hellery and the DNC #ed up when to cheated him out of nomination.

The DNC is corrupt and entirely to blame for this extreme failure to our cause.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Well I've worried about the law for the last 16 years so I will let the man get in office first at least. Being rude sometimes comes with the territory of telling it like it is, something you will almost never hear from any politician. He has no career to "worry" about. Thruth hurts.
He speaks volumes of truth, not always but who does?
Some find him obnoxious, that's a matter of opinion.
He's a strong figure who you will never see bow to the heads of foreign states or make deals where the US interests are not first and foremost. I like that in a leader .
Bernie might've sounded good and may even have had a good record but in office he would follow commands same as all the rest.
Trump doesn't seem too thrilled by the bush cabal way of doing things.