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Before taking WH...DJT due in court over fraud

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posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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He cannot be "convicted of fraud", that's criminal terminology.

In civil cases people bring suits against you for tort claims, not criminal.
You pay them damages for things like negligence, misrepresentation, misconduct, etc.

Even if he lost the initial battle he can appeal this thing multiple times to higher courts, and that process definitely can take years to resolve.

This is actually nothing major at all, especially considering the money amounts in dispute.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash


Even if Trump were only forced to pay fines to the students of Trump University...would it not be grounds for possible impeachment proceedings by COTUS against Trump?



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: Erno86

Removing PRESIDENT Trump from office will not change anything.

Suck it up.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: Erno86
Even if Trump were only forced to pay fines to the students of Trump University...would it not be grounds for possible impeachment proceedings by COTUS against Trump?


Not likely. In order to impeach, there must be an accusation of a crime. The civil court system doesn't handle criminal cases, and so can't easily be used as a basis for impeachment proceedings, and if the case goes against him, as long as he pays whatever fees and restitution might be ordered by the courts, then the matter is settled. If you're holding him to this standard, you'd probably have to impeach most of Congress, too.

Never mind that the GOP will never remove a president of their own party from office, nor would the Democrats.
edit on 10-11-2016 by vor78 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: muzzleflash


Even if Trump were only forced to pay fines to the students of Trump University...would it not be grounds for possible impeachment proceedings by COTUS against Trump?



No. Not at all.

The US Constitution, Article 2 Section 4:


Section 4 The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


To be impeached you gotta be convicted of 'treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.'

Being sued for damages $$$ is not a criminal conviction. It's a "tort claim".
You don't have a criminal record by losing cases over tort claims. They are civil disputes arbitrated by a non-criminal court.



posted on Nov, 10 2016 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: muzzleflash


Even if Trump were only forced to pay fines to the students of Trump University...would it not be grounds for possible impeachment proceedings by COTUS against Trump?




first it's not fines it is a judgement, they are suing him for their money back and what ever damages could be any amount.

second, COTUS best to my knowledge stands for Constitution of the United States. now if your talking about the Supreme Court of the United States, that would be SCOTUS.

SCOTUS doesn't handle impeachment, that is congress. the house brings the charges and the senate tries it.
again to the best of my knowledge, they can only bring charges for impeachment for only for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. none of the case i know of against trump are those kind of charges.

ETA:
just checked COTUS can mean three things, Congress Of The United States, Constitution Of The United States and Citizen of the United States.
sorry my bad.

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posted on Nov, 11 2016 @ 07:09 AM
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The Clinton's are the ones going to court. The FBI and DOJ will be unleashed.



posted on Dec, 20 2021 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: Erno86

"Just weeks before Donald J. Trump is sworn in as the next Commander-in-Chief, the president elect is due in court to defend himself against allegations of fraud in a major class-action civil trial. After failing to persude a Federal judge to delay his November 28 trail date, Trump will take the stand this month as he confronts a host of former Trump University students who claim they were duped into paying as much as $35,000 dollars for largely useless real-estate seminars."


If Trump is convicted of fraud over this civil-action lawsuit...would this be grounds for calling impeachment proceedings against Donald J. Trump, after he's sworn in?

I'm hoping it is...but I'm still afraid of powerful Pence and Trump's evil and corrupt cohorts --- The likes of Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich.

www.vanityfair.com...

So uh..
How did that turn out?



posted on Dec, 20 2021 @ 02:53 PM
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He decided it was in his best interest to settle after he ran out of delays before it would go to trial.



“Judge Curiel's order finalizing the $25 million Trump University settlement means that victims of Donald Trump’s fraudulent university will finally receive the relief they deserve. We are particularly pleased that the final settlement we negotiated with class counsel ensures that members of the class will receive an even higher settlement than anyone originally anticipated.

This settlement marked a stunning reversal by President Trump, who for years refused to compensate the victims of his sham university.

My office won’t hesitate to hold those who commit fraud accountable, no matter how rich or powerful they may be.”


Statement
edit on 20-12-2021 by frogs453 because: Fixed news quote



posted on Dec, 20 2021 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Turned into sky screeching!

But now that (insert proper pronoun) has their desired political party back in, none of it matters.

Let's go Brandon!




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