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posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Okay. I am fine with that.

I'm not Catholic, but have family members who are, and I totally respect them. Catholic Charities does fantastic work, and does it without requiring "remuneration."
I support them whole-heartedly.

I, on the other hand, do NOT support organizations that make their assistance "provisional."
Those that demand that the recipient "convert" are condemnable.
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posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Annee

Okay. I am fine with that.

I'm not Catholic, but have family members who are, and I totally respect them. Catholic Charities does fantastic work, and does it without requiring "remuneration."
I support them whole-heartedly.

I, on the other hand, do NOT support organizations that make their assistance "provisional."
Those that demand that the recipient "convert" are condemnable.


You'll see Catholic Charities in the news all the time - - especially at disaster sites.

Never a mention of the Mormons. But, they are right there working side by side with them.

True Mormon's believe Charity is the #1 thing God's all about. And not done for recognition.

Lots of stuff I enjoyed in my Mormon time.



posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

I, on the other hand, do NOT support organizations that make their assistance "provisional."
Those that demand that the recipient "convert" are condemnable.


Nor I.

There have been some soup kitchens that closed because they would not serve LGBT - - - and were not allowed to proselytize.



posted on Nov, 19 2016 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs


I am a professional social worker, man.

Which is apparently a large part of the problem. You may hold a degree, but your comprehension on what real people are going through is severely lacking.


if a person is not paid enough to live on, the taxpayers have to make up for it.

Right. So why not make it easier for people to give them jobs?


You are absolutely insulting my education, my entire career, and my integrity.

I'm so sorry my situation insults you.


Obama's programs have kept this country from going entirely under. Don't preach to me about low wages, son.

No.

Ma'am

He

Has

NOT!

Obama has done nothing but make it harder for me to get a job, harder for me to live on what little I made from that job, and made damn sure I couldn't afford health care. THAT IS NOT HELPING.


Their shareholders are earning money because YOU ARE WILLING to work for 20/per year.

UAH doesn't have shareholders. Neither does NASA.

Going rate for electrical engineers in this area is $60K/yr. The problem is there aren't enough jobs. It's still much better than other fields most people are stuck in, though... maybe 20 applicants per opening instead of 500. So I took an internship for a while... it beats $5K/yr. Now you might feel better if I quit, but over here in this place I call reality, $20K/yr. Is preferable to nothing.


You are wanting to get rid of social safety nets and expect your benevolent employer to see to your needs? LOL!! Good luck with that.

OK, that's enough with the lies. Please either retract that statement or show where I have been against safety nets.


If you'll notice above, I gave an even-handed look at Bannon and Sessions and Pompeo....
you don't even know anything about those guys....

I know nothing about Bannon, except for the fact you seem to think he is a racist.

Sessions is MY SENATOR. Look at the location, Buzzy. Jeff Sessions gave the commencement address at my UAH commencement last year. I have written to him many times. So has my wife. Everything he does or says is plastered across my local news.

Can you comprehend that? Can you comprehend how ludicrous your statement is?


And you STILL haven't answered the questions. See my post to Takeahikesu to see the complaints/allegations.

Yes I did.
You just didn't see it, probably because you were so busy calling as many people names as you could. You couldn't tell me why Bannon is a racist, you think you know my Senator better than I do, you think my success at increasing my income four-fold is an insult, and you think anyone who disagrees with you is automatically the center of the GOP.

Here's another little tidbit for you to try and comprehend: I am not a Republican! I am registered as an Independent, have never pulled the party lever for either side in my life, and have never identified myself as a Republican. I vote (and sometimes campaign) for the best person for the job.

Wanna talk insulting? I don't... I couldn't hold a candle to your level of insults if my life depended on it!

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

wow, now I see your game clearly.

Go ahead and keep making it my fault. I told you I have been helping people in your situation for ten years. I do understand what you are living.

I have been unemployed since 2008, and not by choice.

I am insulted that you refuse to understand the breadth of my lived experience, and that you have taken no steps to improve your knowledge of "Bannon". If you think Sessions is a good guy, then fine. I hope he does what he should with the bankers who ruined your life.

Thanks for sharing.

Oh, and BTW, your level of "insulting" is way more refined than mine. It's called passive aggressive. You turn everything I say around to make it about insulting YOU. You have berated, insulted, demeaned, disrespected, and calmly and ever so smugly acted like you know more than I do this whole time. I used to have a mother-in-law who did that. It's too bad that you can't comprehend what I'm saying.
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posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 08:43 AM
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Well, I see that degree isn't in math...

I told you I have been helping people in your situation for ten years.


I have been unemployed since 2008, and not by choice.

"Been doing this for ten years, eight of them I was unemployed."

I don't know what to believe any more Buzzy. We started off with a good conversation, about "where do we go from here?" I want to see the country return to civility and mutual respect. But somewhere along the line I apparently knocked a chip off your shoulder. You managed to get my meaning all wrong and acted hurt. So I tried your explain my intentions, and for a short time we had a decent conversation about communication differences.

Then somehow I apparently morphed into Satan himself. You have accused me of everything under the sun, including hating you and your family, hating immigrants, hating America, hating minorities... all the while spewing some of the most hateful rhetoric I have heard to date. You hate Bannon because "he's a racist." Fine, let the rest of us know he's a racist... just show why you believe that. He used the word "dyke." OK, what was the context? Did he do anything else? You couldn't (or wouldn't) answer.

Then you accused me of knowing nothing about my own Senator, because I didn't know anything about Bannon.

You somehow convinced yourself that in one of your more random, accusatory posts you had brought up issues... then demanded a response, even offering a clarification. I asked for that clarification and agreed to respond. You then refused. Finally I saw a post to another member that seemed to hit on issues and responded to it. You ignored that post, then hours later demanded I respond to the post I already responded to. I pointed out I had and you ignored it... again.

Now I'm "passive-aggressive."

I'll freely admit I'm not a psychologist. My daughter has some training in that field, and could probably analyze your behavior better than I. But, she's not here. I am, and I am a student of humanity... I like to watch how humans react with others and try to understand, in my own limited way, the reasons behind those interactions.

You're scared, Buzzy. Terrified. Of what, I don't know, but you are. I can understand Harry Reid resigning in terror, hoping the coming corruption investigations won't focus on him. I can understand the fear I am seeing in Nancy Pelosi. I'm sure she stayed on expecting to again be Speaker... now she's trapped in the spotlight hoping those investigations don't reach her. I can understand Hillary the most, because sooner or later all her crimes will be exposed under a less friendly administration.

I don't think BuzzyWigs on ATS has much to worry about there.

Maybe you really believe that everyone who disagrees with you is truly evil. It's sad if you do, because it's just not true and a belief that will eventually destroy you. Maybe you see the current political climate as your ticket to success and the coming change as a guaranteed failure in your occupation. False, because no matter what we do, there will always be people who need help.

But if you truly wanted to help others, you would be less likely to go off on those needing you and more likely to try and understand them. Ironically, Donald Trump showed us the way in this respect, speaking at a black church in Detroit. He said, paraphrased, that he was not there to tell them what was wrong; he was there for them to tell him what was wrong. He empowered people with that statement. They know where it hurts... not him, not Obama, not Clinton, and not you.

Not even me. As much as I may have in common with them, I know where I hurt... not where they hurt.

Despite the vitriol you have launched at me and others in this thread, Buzzy, I do wish you well. I wish you success. I believe that success, especially in your chosen field, will only come with real empathy for others, and so I hope you can someday achieve that goal. But don't expect me to blindly accept unsupported allegations against others, don't expect me to abandon my beliefs to protect your sensitive feelings, and certainly don't expect me to believe lies to improve your own self-image. I cannot and will not do so. I will never subjugate myself to you in that manner.

Just ain't gonna happen. That's NOT where we go from here.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 20 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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For sure. One of the beauties of living in a small town is I was made aware of the charities of various faiths. And of personal works in the community done by members of a faith that were just awe inspiring. I live by a Methodist church whose members are committed to various programs to benefit others in the community, literally opening their church buildings for various activities. Also, the Jewish faith has a tenet that one should personally do charity. To me, as long as the charitable work getting govt funding does not come with a quid pro quo of accepting a faith/becoming a member, then I have no problems with it.

Oh, re social workers.... as with any profession, sometimes people make mistakes. Years ago I posted here of something that had happened, but should not have happened (!), to a wonderful young woman. Bottom line, she ended up charged with "welfare fraud" and had to wear an ankle monitor to work, because a case worker a few years before had told her "not to worry", there would be no problems, about a paper she had signed.

It seems we have been more generous to the wealthy who intentionally defraud the govt, than to a "little person" who makes a legitimate mistake. The wealthy can buy... pay off a fine, to avoid going to prison, whereas the little person has no extra money to pay off a fine.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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Well, I see that degree isn't in math...

I told you I have been helping people in your situation for ten years.


I have been unemployed since 2008, and not by choice.

"Been doing this for ten years, eight of them I was unemployed."


Does the word "volunteer" ring any bells?

Congratulations. You have managed to rouse the giggling troops, to rally them to your oh-so-noble cause. To continue to ignore what Steve Bannon is all about, and stooped to the level of member that uses 'high-brow' prose to spread lies.


Election Reflection: White Anger, Racial Violence, Economic Despair—and the Worst Is Yet to Come


A journalist's dark view from flyover country.


From St Louis, MO. A PhD in anthropology. Speaking about what she sees, having studied governmental structures for her career.


ELECTION 2016
Sara Kendzior lives and writes in the heartland of America, and from what she has observed, the country is about to explode. The journalist tells WhoWhatWhy’s Jeff Schechtman that the election of Donald Trump is but the opening act.
Racism, white supremacy and violence are all bubbling very close to the surface, and scapegoating will add fuel to the fire.

Not only have stores and plants closed, but locally based journalism has all but disappeared. In the resulting information vacuum the influence of inflammatory cable and right-wing national media as well as fake news is huge. As a close observer of Trump Country, Kendzior paints a grim and almost hopeless picture of where the nation as a whole is going.


Yeah. So. Doctor of Philosophy Anthropologist Kendzior has some things to say:


People are extremely frustrated with their economic situation and it’s been very difficult for people to hold onto middle-class jobs, and so that kind of popular economic discontent that both Trump and Sanders, and eventually Clinton, heavily emphasized is important.

It’s not the only thing.
Obviously, Trump has run a very racist and bigoted campaign; sort of white nationalist campaign reminiscent of dictators.

I should note that I do live in Missouri, so I have this perspective, but I also have a PhD in anthropology where I studied dictatorships, particularly post-Soviet dictatorships like Uzbekistan, so I’m an expert in that field as well.

Many of the things that Trump did throughout his campaign reminded me very much of the dictators that I’ve studied in terms of his demagoguery, his use of spectacle, manipulation of the media and his manipulation of the masses.


Source

So, here we go some more:


Those who voted for him, I think, have signed on for something that they don’t really want.

I don’t think he’s going to fulfill his promises to them in order to improve their economic livelihood or keep them safer.

I, in fact, think the opposite is going to happen. That’s true because he has frankly stated so, including long before the election.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:01 PM
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Hey, so you guys....

know how we're talking about media manipulation and lies and all that?

I just thought of a domain name idea and typed it in just for the hell of it.
It's a site in very poor condition that points out fake news site tactics and deliberate baiting.

Thought it was pertinent, for sure. oneswellfoop.com...

My dad used to say "one swell foop" satirically/sarcastically. I just googled it, and came across that site.

It's a sort of gibberish word salad unedited run on unformatted list of sites that are fakes of real sites.


Bleat! 10 by Wendy Seventyfivepenny The Top 10 Misspellings of Weblog URLs 1 onefellswoop for oneswellfoop (the mistake Bloat made and quickly corrected; thank you Sally) When I was looking for a domain name, onefellswoop.com belonged to a band from Vermont that had been named One Fell Swoop, but they'd already changed the group name to Dispatch and abandoned the site (maybe because there was a more successful One Fell Swoop band in St. Louis). In a perfect world, the St. Louis band would've ended up with the name; instead it was claimed by a guy from Chattanooga, Tennessee named Chuck Mull, and after two months, he hasn't done anything with it yet. I just hope Chuck Mull isn't related to Martin Mull, or new satire wars could break out. 2 CameraWorld for CamWorld CameraWorld is a real e-commerce site, selling (guess what?) cameras! They're promoting their site with large billboards, two of which have been a stone's throw from my house ever since November, when I was on Cam's prestigious linklist for two weeks. Now the billboards look down at me, mocking me. 3 BradLand for The BradLands BradLand is a diary maintained by a self-proclaimed "typical average-joe american teen" (NOT another riothero), using a Blogger-like posting tool called LiveJournal, that allows him to make entries every time he goes to the bathroom (or so it would seem). Featuring daring design elements, like links in virtually the same color as the background, and thought-provoking (if not headache-inducing) thoughts, like this modest proposal to save the world from its hormone-induced problems. 4 meganut for megnut Meg recently pointed out this mistake, and the fact that meganut redicts to a porno site, so don't try the link on your office computer, and be sure to have your major credit card ready. 5 wayback for wrongwaygoback (Neale's Wetlog) Wayback.com is a truly minimalist tribute to "Peabody's Improbable History", the segment on the Bullwinkle Show featuring the Way-back time machine, but at least the webmaster had the good sense to use Linux and Apache. 6 Gluetrain for The Cluetrain Manifesto Neither site is really a weblog, but I had to acknowledge Gluetrain's decision to register an intentionally confusing domain name specifically for the purpose of satire. If your eyes glaze over before the end of this long parody, here's a spoiler... Gluetrain's 95th thesis is: Soylent Green is people. Ha. 7 bump.com for bump.net Bump.com is an e-business site for digimedia, "an Internet publishing and advertising firm headquartered in Terral, Oklahoma". Why? I don't know. 8 stripping.com for scripting.com Stripping.com is a self-proclaimed "extremely hardcore" porn site. So what did you expect? A site about paint removal? 9 edhead for evhead Under construction in 11 languages. 10 werent for twernt Lose the apostrophe in "weren't", and you have "WeRent", a San Francisco bay area apartment-listing site (which ev and meg have probably visited more often than twernt). BONUS LISTING: The parody site names used in the great goof of february 2000 The Motley Foop: Since Motley Fool uses fool.com, this would have to be foop.com, currently showing a bad placeholder for "the smartest discussion site on the web, coming soon"... At least its Finnish site, foop.fi, is now open. C-NOT: Registered by Imagine Publishing of Brisbane, CA in March 1998, but currently inaccessible... could be availble soon! Tired News: Nobody tired themselves out designing the tired.com website. Six words: "Are you tired? Tell us why." and an e-mail link ([email protected]). Not tiring, but sleep-inducing. TBC: TBC.com is the Texas Biotechnology Corporation (maybe they can explain what makes Dubya tick). The British equivalent, TBC.co.uk, is Technology Business Computers, with a veddy British-sounding mission statement on its home page.


Just saying.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 02:08 PM
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So, here it is broken into readable bits:

Bleat! 10 by Wendy Seventyfivepenny

The Top 10 Misspellings of Weblog URLs
1 onefellswoop for oneswellfoop (the mistake Bloat made and quickly corrected; thank you Sally)

When I was looking for a domain name, onefellswoop.com belonged to a band from Vermont that had been named One Fell Swoop, but they'd already changed the group name to Dispatch and abandoned the site (maybe because there was a more successful One Fell Swoop band in St. Louis).

In a perfect world, the St. Louis band would've ended up with the name; instead it was claimed by a guy from Chattanooga, Tennessee named Chuck Mull, and after two months, he hasn't done anything with it yet. I just hope Chuck Mull isn't related to Martin Mull, or new satire wars could break out.

2 CameraWorld for CamWorld
CameraWorld is a real e-commerce site, selling (guess what?) cameras! They're promoting their site with large billboards, two of which have been a stone's throw from my house ever since November, when I was on Cam's prestigious linklist for two weeks. Now the billboards look down at me, mocking me.

3 BradLand for The BradLands
BradLand is a diary maintained by a self-proclaimed "typical average-joe american teen" (NOT another riothero), using a Blogger-like posting tool called LiveJournal, that allows him to make entries every time he goes to the bathroom (or so it would seem). Featuring daring design elements, like links in virtually the same color as the background, and thought-provoking (if not headache-inducing) thoughts, like this modest proposal to save the world from its hormone-induced problems.

4 meganut for megnut
Meg recently pointed out this mistake, and the fact that meganut redicts to a porno site, so don't try the link on your office computer, and be sure to have your major credit card ready.

5 wayback for wrongwaygoback (Neale's Wetlog)
Wayback.com is a truly minimalist tribute to "Peabody's Improbable History", the segment on the Bullwinkle Show featuring the Way-back time machine, but at least the webmaster had the good sense to use Linux and Apache.

6 Gluetrain for The Cluetrain Manifesto
Neither site is really a weblog, but I had to acknowledge Gluetrain's decision to register an intentionally confusing domain name specifically for the purpose of satire. If your eyes glaze over before the end of this long parody, here's a spoiler... Gluetrain's 95th thesis is: Soylent Green is people. Ha.

7 bump.com for bump.net
Bump.com is an e-business site for digimedia, "an Internet publishing and advertising firm headquartered in Terral, Oklahoma". Why? I don't know.

8 stripping.com for scripting.com
Stripping.com is a self-proclaimed "extremely hardcore" porn site. So what did you expect? A site about paint removal?

9 edhead for evhead
Under construction in 11 languages.

10 werent for twernt
Lose the apostrophe in "weren't", and you have "WeRent", a San Francisco bay area apartment-listing site (which ev and meg have probably visited more often than twernt).

BONUS LISTING: The parody site names used in the great goof of february 2000 The Motley Foop: Since Motley Fool uses fool.com, this would have to be foop.com, currently showing a bad placeholder for "the smartest discussion site on the web, coming soon"... At least its Finnish site, foop.fi, is now open. C-NOT: Registered by Imagine Publishing of Brisbane, CA in March 1998, but currently inaccessible... could be availble soon! Tired News: Nobody tired themselves out designing the tired.com website. Six words: "Are you tired? Tell us why." and an e-mail link ([email protected]). Not tiring, but sleep-inducing. TBC: TBC.com is the Texas Biotechnology Corporation (maybe they can explain what makes Dubya tick). The British equivalent, TBC.co.uk, is Technology Business Computers, with a veddy British-sounding mission statement on its home page.


and so on and so forth. Anyway just going to leave this here



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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From St Louis, MO. A PhD in anthropology. Speaking about what she sees, having studied governmental structures for her career.

ELECTION 2016 Sara Kendzior lives and writes in the heartland of America, and from what she has observed, the country is about to explode. The journalist tells WhoWhatWhy’s Jeff Schechtman that the election of Donald Trump is but the opening act. Racism, white supremacy and violence are all bubbling very close to the surface, and scapegoating will add fuel to the fire.

It is her opinion and she definitely has the right to print what she feels. She feels this way based on what she thinks she knows about people and how she views what is happening in the area where she lives.

Using the same criteria, I have to completely disagree with her. In fact I tend to agree with this journalist much more.

Stuart Wexler, a historian, is the author of "America's Secret Jihad: The Hidden History of Religious Terrorism in the United States.


The United States will never descend into the race war that extremists want, but determined zealots can create plenty of chaos in pursuit of that goal. Giving into the fear and racial anxiety they hope to foment is a danger unto itself. Let’s disappoint them.


www.washingtonpost.com...
edit on 21-11-2016 by NightSkyeB4Dawn because: Word edit.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

"I, in fact, think the opposite is going to happen. That’s true because he has frankly stated so, including long before the election."


Exactly what I think.

I have an older brother that is very much like Trump. And believe me, he honestly believes his own hype.

It got annoying people telling me how wonderful my brother was - - when I could see right through him. I was a frustration for him, because he couldn't control me.

Just like I saw right through my brother, I see right through Trump. I am not affected by any of his nonsense.

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posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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Only about 25% of Americans voted for Trump, and about 25% voted for Hillary. The 75% that didn't vote for Trump don't expect him to uphold his promises. The same would have been said if Hillary had won.

Of course this is no surprise, as most Americans have grown used to the empty promises that almost all candidates make. I just don't understand why every election people get so worked up thinking that new President is going to erase all the ills of our country and make everything perfect just the way they like it.

From a chicken in every pot, to a new house completely paid for, Americans are still chasing that pie in the sky, and I keep hoping that they will wake up and see that the only change they are ever going to see, are the changes that they make themselves.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 08:38 PM
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This thread should be the measuring stick of todays society. I hope, truly, that personal bias will lose to facts someday.

I'm glad there's enough popcorn and beverages for everyone.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 08:47 PM
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The main demographic Trump voter, midwest America, is expecting him to deliver his promises.

I personally feel he is going to go more toward International dealings.

But, that's just an opinion.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
This thread should be the measuring stick of todays society. I hope, truly, that personal bias will lose to facts someday.

I'm glad there's enough popcorn and beverages for everyone.

Unfortunately JinMi, there seems to be conflicting and sometimes varying versions of the facts.

I think you are right though that personal bias, and a growing atmosphere of narcissism is emerging as the new benchmark for today's society.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 09:04 PM
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I'm glad you picked up on my point. I think that our biggest downfall is that we feel that we're right and it's absolute. I've been guilty of it myself.

The further an argument goes, the more facts being brought to light should be noticed. Minds can be changed upon new information. To double down on ignorance is something that is being seen en mass.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 09:49 PM
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As I've said elsewhere recently on ATS posts, the false equivalency, false binary, irrational, acceptance of all as truth, acceptance of unreasonableness as reasonable, all this has led to a laziness of thinking and confusion over facts and truth. Combine with gullibility, and Americans were ripe for Russian hackers, who found and exploited a great weakness, very much as in Cold War days when the USSR would search for defense weaknesses or people vulnerable to be turned. And this weakness, unseen by us, was very visible to teenagers generating fake news sites, manipulating us with a result much worse than being redirected to a porn site.




My dad used to say "one swell foop"


lol It's called spoonerism. We had a lot of laughs with this in my family growing up. Seemed that some family members were more vulnerable to producing spoonerisms. Then there was that old joke: say "One smart fellow, he felt smart" three times fast. That sent us small kids rolling on the floor with laughter.



posted on Nov, 21 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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Does the word "volunteer" ring any bells?

It might have if you had said "volunteer" instead of "unemployed."


Congratulations. You have managed to rouse the giggling troops, to rally them to your oh-so-noble cause.

Thank you! Considering the only 'cause' I have is peaceful and prosperous coexistence for all, I will take that as a compliment.


To continue to ignore what Steve Bannon is all about, and stooped to the level of member that uses 'high-brow' prose to spread lies.

I know nothing about Steve Bannon.

I know nothing about Steve Bannon.

I know nothing about Steve Bannon.

Maybe if I repeat it, you'll actually read it. I really don't know anything about the man, except that he used the word "dyke." That tidbit of knowledge was thanks to you. Too bad you refused to provide any other details. He might make Lucifer himself look angelic by comparison, or he might make Mother Teresa look like she has red horns. Is he a banker? A lawyer? Is he married? Does he have kids? Does he sacrifice baby goats to toupee-wearing jack-o-lanterns by the light of a blood moon? I honestly don't know!

I refuse, adamantly and absolutely, to prejudge another human being based on someone's unsubstantiated name-calling.


Yeah. So. Doctor of Philosophy Anthropologist Kendzior has some things to say:

Obviously, even some PhDs toss unsubstantiated labels around too,

She's right about one thing, though: anger and hatred are indeed bubbling to the surface. I see it every night when I hear reports about the rioting taking place to protest a legal and free election. I see it when people are threatened or assaulted because they 'look like a Trump supporter.' And I see it starting to boil from the other side too.

You see, what you and your favorite PhD are failing to realize is that eventually people will fight back against abuse. Like it or not, believe it or not, many many people feel they have been abused for the past decade. They just fought back in a legal and non-violent manner. Now those who back their abuser are turning to violence. What do you think will happen?

The illogic here amazes me. You are terrified, as witnessed both by your tone and your admission. Yet you are doing everything possible to realize your worse fears. You are attacking others for asking honest questions, accusing others of horrendous things without a single shred of evidence, insulting others for daring to disagree with you, and openly condemning people for their personal religious beliefs.

Helpful hint: as much as it may sound like a good idea at the time, the next time you are swimming and see a shark, don't try to punch its tongue with a bloody hand.

TheRedneck



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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In today's news:

What next (now) is that Donald now states these things:

No further pursuit of charges against Clinton

Trump keeping 'open mind' on pulling out of climate accord; asked on Tuesday whether the United States would withdraw from the accord, the Republican said: “I’m looking at it very closely. I have an open mind to it."

Not going to round up all immigrants

Donald Trump disavows and condemns 'alt-right' (Richard Spencer's meeting)

Going to keep many aspects of Obamacare after talking to Obama

Not going to tear up the "Iran" treaty



Dalai Lama has 'no worries' about President-elect Donald Trump; says campaign promises don't mean anything


Trump begins to back away from campaign vows on Clinton investigation, climate change

ANd oh so so so much more:


Trump began backing off campaign promises Tuesday, including his hard line on climate change and his vow to jail "Crooked Hillary" Clinton that had brought thunderous "Lock her up" chants at his rallies.

*chuckle*

A top adviser said

Trump is now focused on matters that are essential in setting up his administration, not on comments he made during the heat of the campaign.


But wait, there's more!


— Took his strongest stance yet against the "alt-right," a term often used as code for the white supremacist movement. Though members are celebrating his victory, he said, "It's not a group I want to energize. And if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why."

— Spoke positively not only of fellow Republicans in Congress — "Right now they are in love with me" — but also of President Barack Obama, who he said is "looking to do absolutely the right thing for the country in terms of transition."


Adviser Kellyanne Conway said ... Trump is "thinking of many different things as he prepares to become the president of the United States, and things that sound like the campaign aren't among them."

[He had] angrily barked at her that "you'd be in jail" if he were president.


But now:


"I don't want to hurt the Clintons, I really don't," Trump said in the interview. Sympathetically, he said, "She went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways."





Not gonna do all those things his fans are expecting. Nope. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN. And he's not even in office yet!!!
LOL!!! It's a pathetically predictable turn of the tables that many people fell right into....his trap. It was ALL bluster, and NO substance, and now he has been to a couple of "closed door" meetings and he knows what's what.

Gobsmacked, thunderstruck, and utterly out of his depth are terms that come to mind.


If Trump's appointees do not follow through on his pledge to investigate Clinton for criminal violations he accused her of, "it would be a betrayal of his promise to the American people to 'drain the swamp' of out-of-control corruption in Washington," said the group Judicial Watch.

And Breitbart, the conservative news site whose former head, Stephen Bannon, is now a senior counselor to Trump, headlined its story about the switch with "Broken Promise."
LOL!!! Sheesh, you just can't make this stuff up.


he allowed, "I think there is some connectivity" between human activity and climate changes.


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Earlier Tuesday, it was confirmed that Trump's charity had admitted it violated IRS regulations barring it from using its money or assets to benefit Trump, his family, his companies or substantial contributors to the foundation.



*adds popcorn to grocery list*
Have a great Thanksgiving, everyone!!


edit on 11/23/2016 by BuzzyWigs because: ack lazy formatting errors



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