Where's the Mandela Effect when you really need it?

This is the question that comes to my mind. How did I end up on the timeline where Donald Trump became President of the United States?

Because you were foolish and believed the BS, You really should of been smarter than that....

HEXIT.

It's called reality. Welcome!

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

You would rather an immoral, bought and paid for, corrupt president? There are plenty of countries out there that have that. You should move there if you really want the Hillary experience.

This the Mandela Effect timeline. Welcome to it. KEK.

As if a timeline where a career criminal became POTUS would be any better.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
This is the question that comes to my mind. How did I end up on the timeline where Donald Trump became President of the United States?

Meanwhile in the Bearenstein's earth

a reply to: SaturnFX

Sweet Christ almighty, yes, this... So many times this.

This should have been what we saw tonight by a country mile.

a reply to: TrueBrit

naw. He semi-secretly wanted to ban rifles too. Well they are here to stay, and no to communism!

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SaturnFX

Sweet Christ almighty, yes, this... So many times this.

This should have been what we saw tonight by a country mile.

A well deserved bloody nose really. Yeah, it sucks, but sometimes a sound defeat can restructure the party and scrape off the corruption

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Only an idiot would conflate socialism with communism.

But that's how propaganda affects people I suppose. Using someone else's intellect in place of a dearth of ones own is not uncommon at all, and I cannot blame you for it.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Yes, that's great and all, but now you have an overt fascism waiting to be born.

The corporate and the government are now married ever closer, and that way only madness lay.

Dark, troubling times are ahead.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
This is the question that comes to my mind. How did I end up on the timeline where Donald Trump became President of the United States?

It's all part of Back to the Future. In the first one, from the perspective of the 50s, Doc Brown asks who the president in the 80s is, and Marty replies "Ronald Reagan".

"THE ACTOR?"

Back to the Future 2, Marty is now in Docs place and fast forwards to 2015, and Donald Trump is the president.

I'm looking for the Delorean back to 1885.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SaturnFX

Yes, that's great and all, but now you have an overt fascism waiting to be born.

The corporate and the government are now married ever closer, and that way only madness lay.

Dark, troubling times are ahead.

Politicians are almost always owned by corporations.
...this election simply cut out the middle man. its faster that way.


it will most likely be a 4 year lame duck presidency. the establishment doesn't want Trump to succeed on either side as it would solidify outsiders = success. That is not what they want...so expect gridlock.

But who knows.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SaturnFX

Sweet Christ almighty, yes, this... So many times this.

This should have been what we saw tonight by a country mile.

agreed. Bernie was on a roll and would have beat Trump I think. What heartburn.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Gridlock is when you don't have control of the House and Senate but the margin is slim so he'll have to compromise and work across the isle.

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
a reply to: SaturnFX

Gridlock is when you don't have control of the House and Senate but the margin is slim so he'll have to compromise and work across the isle.

But he doesn't. Trump is a outsider, not a republican. Republicans don't want him, they will sabotage him more than Dems will as he is a bigger threat to the Reps.

however, some could also become lapdogs like Carson if they think his influence is too strong.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SaturnFX

Yes, that's great and all, but now you have an overt fascism waiting to be born.

The corporate and the government are now married ever closer, and that way only madness lay.

Dark, troubling times are ahead.

Indeed, and what if there's a single terrorist attack while he's President? How would he make use of that? Ugh!

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: SaturnFX

Sweet Christ almighty, yes, this... So many times this.

This should have been what we saw tonight by a country mile.

A well deserved bloody nose really. Yeah, it sucks, but sometimes a sound defeat can restructure the party and scrape off the corruption

Good and fair point.

And, in the final analysis, I have to say that I do trust the instincts of the American people on the whole. Maybe Hillary and friends were totally corrupted and loosely or covertly involved in well, bad stuff, along with a foreign policy that make a mess of Iraq, Libya and Syria.

The problem with Trump however is that he promises a sort of police state, to kill family members of terrorists and reinstitute torture... it's like Bush/Cheney on steroids without the costly wars I suppose.

It's just crazy, a total upside down turn around contrary to all expectation.

And who knows, it's possible that Trump might be a good President, but I was excited about the Democratic Platform, including the elements of Bernie Sanders that were incorporated into it.

What about the minimum wage? Education, etc etc?

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
What about the minimum wage? Education, etc etc?

Postponed
Minimum wage is a bit daft though. raise wages, prices go up. I am 40, been watching token raises happen all my life, and the result is everything else goes up with it as expected.
No easy answer there.

The education thing is a bit more hairy. I do believe we should enable low income familys to have good trade schooling available to them for getting a head start. I don't like the "free university" thing they were touting without seemingly any focus. someone could try to get free universities for gender studies and European folklore or some nonsense. naa..trade school vouchers would be a good program.
Once they make their own money, or mommy and daddys money, they can then take up Chinese basket weaving majors or whatnot.

As far as all the killing family members of terrorists thing...
wow...what a interesting prospect. crude, but often terrorism is done specifically to provide money to their familys through donations..so no doubt it would curve some fanatics...on the other hand, murdering innocents intentionally is criminal and Don would find himself being brought to justice as a war criminal..not to mention make his entire family a target
Well, anyhow. 4 years of a comedy and tragedy is about to play out. lets see where it goes.