What it will take to change what we have now

So obviously our Democracy is on life support, perhaps even dead. Oligarchy is flourishing for the elite and corrupt. We have patriots that put it all on the line to give us a peek at just how bad it really is at the top. The corruption runs deep and penetrates to our government's core. Yet what can we really do about it right?

So ideally we would have another Mahatma Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr. incarnate and start a peaceful revolution. But, American's are so divided and can't focus on one issue for very long. TPTB know what we could do if we all got our act together and came to retake our Democracy. That's why they learned a long time ago we are easier to manipulate when we're divided. They're good at it.

So then there's violence. Small groups banded together to take matters into their own hands using violence. This is a chaotic and bloody option. Sure we would get their attention very fast especially if it got elevated to the point of the most corrupt politicians going missing -- or worse. But, that opens up a big hole for a power vacuum. Besides, imagine how unorganized an effort like this would be. A power vacuum could lead to something even worse than what we have now. Just look at the series Insurgent, Maze Runner, and The Hunger Games.

So what we have to start doing asap is getting young people involved in politics. I mean aggressively going after our young American's to get involved in the political process. So many of them giving a damn that it sets a trend and others start to join in. We have to overwhelm the system with a bolus like influx of young blood into the political process. There has to be a way we can come together and publicly fund massive drive's to both educate young American's and assist them in getting involved from the bottom up. All the way from their local school board levels to the POTUS and everything in between. That's how we can do it.

You want to talk about think tanks? Let's get some think tanks busting out ideas on how to go about this nationally. They CANNOT handle an overwhelming presence of young political minds that are against the establishment and against big money in our political process. They will freak out and have no answer for it, crumbling on themselves. The left, right, and in between has the power to come together and start this movement for the betterment of America. You want to change TPTB? Get in the trenches with them. Rub elbows with them. Make them uncomfortable. Be close enough to smell their breath and for them to smell yours. Look them in the eyes and breathe down their necks!

a reply to: Gumerk

Either plumbers, teachers, police officers, accountants hold political offices or they hold rifles.

Lots of gasoline and a match.

Young minds are a wonderful thing, but they are not as much an answer as they used to be.

Young minds are breaking away from the established doctrines of certain things, like gender and relationships. However, most are more dependent on government now, then the older generations ever were. They look to the older political machinery with wonder and surprise. Most tend to be Progressive democrats, as well. They want free stuff, and that isn't what government is there to do. They want Free tuition, free healthcare. The youth are more socialist leaning. This country was not designed to be a socialist utopia.

They are also easier to manipulate, that is why there are age limits on certain positions in the government, the oldest position to get a hold of is President, you have to be in your 30's.

Peaceful protests are ignored, and laughed at, they hardly garner any media attention at all, until there is violence and bloodshed as we were shown in Ferguson. And it is only when the violence is perpetuated by the protesters.

Getting young people into politics creates more of what we currently have. There is no age and wisdom to see that some things are bad, they are impressed with power, and power corrupts.

So the question is how? How do we encourage a mass influx of young Americans to get involved in our political process? What motivates them? Maybe you're that age and you have some ideas. Or Maybe you're older and can think back to those young years -- what would have motivated you to overwhelm the oligarchs and band together with thousands of other young minds like yourself?

We need about a thousand souls like this one to step up and go after our Democracy

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We may be getting Punkd'

Welcome to the "hang onto power or civil war" portion of the program.

originally posted by: Gumerk
So the question is how? How do we encourage a mass influx of young Americans to get involved in our political process? What motivates them? Maybe you're that age and you have some ideas. Or Maybe you're older and can think back to those young years -- what would have motivated you to overwhelm the oligarchs and band together with thousands of other young minds like yourself?

You don't, because it wouldn't matter if there was a mass influx of new people in politics. You don't get to be "new" in the political game unless you act like the "old". Anyone with any new ideas is frozen out by default.

a reply to: underwerks

So they freeze out one and two more takes his/her place. A true influx. Overwhelming them and not letting them operate how they have been used to. The oligarchs did it. They banded together and circled their wagons slowly until a tipping point was reached. Now they band together because they're the majority. But We The People have much, much more ammunition than they do. We have a huge supply of new blood that can stick together and tip it back the other way. Sure it'll take time but if they did it why can't we?

originally posted by: Gumerk
a reply to: underwerks

So they freeze out one and two more takes his/her place. A true influx. Overwhelming them and not letting them operate how they have been used to. The oligarchs did it. They banded together and circled their wagons slowly until a tipping point was reached. Now they band together because they're the majority. But We The People have much, much more ammunition than they do. We have a huge supply of new blood that can stick together and tip it back the other way. Sure it'll take time but if they did it why can't we?

What I'm getting at is that there is no way to flood the system like that with new blood, and new ideas. Its set up to make sure of that.

To get to the level in the system you need to to change things you have to be as corrupt as the people that occupy it now.

Its so entrenched that only the corrupt are allowed in the positions that actually matter, and by the time a person gets there they're just as corrupt as the people they are trying to replace.

The system isn't made to be changed.

Its a simply complicated answer...

A PEACEFUL REVOLUTION WHERE ALL RED & BLUE POLITICIANS ARE REVOKED OF THE PARTY AFFILIATIONS FOR A FRESH POPULATION OF STAT DRIVEN POLITICIANS... VOTED IN BY MAJORITY VOTE ONLY.

Sure... it has to get worse before it gets better. But, why do people have to die to achieve this? If politicians really cared about the people above their agendas, then they'd fully cooperate with the will of the people.

originally posted by: ttobban
Its a simply complicated answer...

A PEACEFUL REVOLUTION WHERE ALL RED & BLUE POLITICIANS ARE REVOKED OF THE PARTY AFFILIATIONS FOR A FRESH POPULATION OF STAT DRIVEN POLITICIANS... VOTED IN BY MAJORITY VOTE ONLY.

Sure... it has to get worse before it gets better. But, why do people have to die to achieve this? If politicians really cared about the people above their agendas, then they'd fully cooperate with the will of the people.

Because the current system is banking on the "Bread and circuses" approach, to keep us from burning Rome to the ground in our frustrations.

It worked for Rome, why not the USA?

They count on us being too distracted, too comfortable, too poor to counter or coalesce enough to form a solid front.

a reply to: Cygnis

While I agree, I feel that if the police and military side with the people, then it can be achieved a lot easier then people think. If it comes to terms where police and or military side with the hostile government, then the Rothchild's win.

I have been waiting for the curtain calling for some time now... whichever way it has to happen. I am willing to die for it, but I am not willing to kill.

originally posted by: ttobban
a reply to: Cygnis

While I agree, I feel that if the police and military side with the people, then it can be achieved a lot easier then people think. If it comes to terms where police and or military side with the hostile government, then the Rothchild's win.

I have been waiting for the curtain calling for some time now... whichever way it has to happen. I am willing to die for it, but I am not willing to kill.

I would hope when the correct time appears, the good people will do what is necessary..

"All it takes for evil to win, is for good men to do nothing.."..

a reply to: Cygnis

I'm afraid in an uprising scenario the government would label the group as "radical homegrown terrorists" to sway the loyalty of the military and police to their side.

originally posted by: Thoren
a reply to: Cygnis

I'm afraid in an uprising scenario the government would label the group as "radical homegrown terrorists" to sway the loyalty of the military and police to their side.

It depends on the groups Public relations..

"Hearts and Minds" win the war..

a reply to: Cygnis

True but their propaganda machine is well oiled and effective. I guess only time will tell. It's coming. When? Who knows but it is coming.

originally posted by: Thoren
a reply to: Cygnis

True but their propaganda machine is well oiled and effective. I guess only time will tell. It's coming. When? Who knows but it is coming.

Most are disenfranchies with MSM.

A good PR, and you could have all manner of people supplying and helping a Revolutionary front, and more volunteers then you could shake a stick at.

Promise land ownership, and flat taxes, less government and red tape, and no more income tax (which isn't legal in the first place), and you'll have people coming out of the woodwork.

a reply to: Gumerk

" So what we have to start doing asap is getting young people involved in politics. I mean aggressively going after our young American's



Start a Strong National 3RD Party comprised of Independent working Class People of All Colors and Ethnic Backgrounds . That will Only Happen if People Forcibly Demand it be Included in National Politics .