Trump has no solutions for bringing down the debt. Only talk and ZERO substance.

a reply to: jellyrev

Hopefully his military increase rhetoric is just that,

Whether it be Hillary or Trump or whoever else, rhetoric or no rhetoric (depending on when we may conveniently define it as such), the candidates need to accountable to what they say.

Trump isn't a joke candidate right? He's running a serious campaign right? Because that's how I'm treating him right now.

I am sure a war a with Russia will be cheaper though

Who wants war with Russia? Which of the candidates proposed war with Russia?

I don't want news from the rightwing echochamber. I want a solid source.

Did Hillary actually propose war with Russia? I mean I'm sure you hate it when people claim Trump is a chump for Putin without anything solid.

WHO said they wanted war with Russia?

I can tell you is if ACA rate increases continue at this rate in 5 years

Healthcare corporations have been increasing premiums since well before ACA. Say what you will about the ACA, at least it was a solid attempt to address the healthcare cost issue. Frankly conservatives would rather they put their heads in the sand.

By the way, not a fan of the ACA. I think it's high time single payer is introduced.

I hate to break the bad news folks but neither one is going to be the savior of this country. Trump has presented no specifics on his policy or how he's going to "make america great again". He's a loud mouth who has absolutely no self control. Everything he says ends up being word salad and even if in that word salad there is a good point he fails to deliver it effectively.

Hillary...I shouldn't even have to remind people why she's no good for the country. She will result in more of the same policies that are not working. More spending, more military interventionism and nation building. She's a proven liar and under investigation by the FBI.

If you want to see your savior simply look in the mirror. These people are not going to come to your rescue, they are not going to pay your bills or help you buy a home or get you a job. They are not going to come stop criminals from being criminals. The people at the top are the problem. The solution for this country is not going to come from the source of the problems.

The original constitutional function of government was to ensure the protection of our rights and oversee the military whose function is to defend the country from invasion, nothing more nothing less. There is a reason the founding fathers set it up like this, they realized that minimal government involvement in peoples lives was a good thing and that that to do more would only result in a mess, very much like the one we have today.

I love it.

Focusing on the real issues and people come with alarmist BS like "WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE WAR WITH RUSSIA THAN TRUMP".

Seriously get the hell off it.

This only confirms my point further, his supporters could not give a damn about what his intentions really are.

Trump has literally no understanding of economics, and people who think they do but never picked up a history book are the most dangerous.

Trump can point out problems. He has adressed some.

However, that has literally nothing to do with a solution that works.

The last person to make supply side tax cuts was a Democrat over 50 years ago. Every one after expected congress would pass their exact budget proposal. Which lead to taxation in the form of national debt.

If you think trump has a plan you don't understand the reality of politics and economics for better or worse.

Not even worth mentioning Clinton. SHE wold lead to the typical boom and bust system like Reagan or Clinton. Passing the crap end of he stick to the next president.

Trump on the other hand would be all bust. He wants to be Andrew Jackson but he is more a mix of teddy Roosevelt and Joseph McCarthy

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Gothmog
At least Trump talks about the issues...Hillary does not . She follows the Alinsky tactics only . Deflect , Defer , Deride , and Divide. Otherwise , Hillary is totally worthless as a human...

One bad thing about the Trump tactic of run in and make up lies about Hillary. They like Donnie are easily proven wrong.
This site lists the issues she has been talking about and when.
Hillary Clinton On the issues

All that site shows is she is all talk and no action. Don't forget she has a public and private stance on EVERYTHING.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: Gothmog
At least Trump talks about the issues...Hillary does not . She follows the Alinsky tactics only . Deflect , Defer , Deride , and Divide. Otherwise , Hillary is totally worthless as a human...

One bad thing about the Trump tactic of run in and make up lies about Hillary. They like Donnie are easily proven wrong.
This site lists the issues she has been talking about and when.
Hillary Clinton On the issues

All that site shows is she is all talk and no action. Don't forget she has a public and private stance on EVERYTHING.

Like Barack Obama, everything Hillary wants, INCREASES our National Debt AND Taxes. "What the hell do you have to lose" by choosing a $0-cost alternative to those hellish fiscal policies!

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Trump mentions reducing military bases overseas that should counter some of the domestic costs of the military budget.
Mentions reducing the tax code which means a more responsive dynamic economy,in fact his economic policies are geared towards economic freedom , exactly what the middle class needs and the number one reason to vote for him.
Clintons economic policies can only be described as same old "socialistic crappery" and will only stagnate the economy further.
You try to convince "us" of our stupidity of supporting Trump but only highlight that your knowledge of Economics is nil and make me personally think you are either a twit or a "neo keynesian twonk" a total prescriptive economic policy failure since the 2007 Crash a crash were still in by the way , so you vote for criminal Clinton because Trump isn't a refined polished politician, i'll vote for the Don because i am sick to death of the failure of the status quo politicians to tackle the economic malaise were in because it will mean less parasitic economic activity which they rely on.
Also you can peddle your ignorant crap to the propagandised children but to the savvy informed our day of squashing insects like you is getting closer everyday.

VOTE FOR TRUMP THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT CARES ABOUT THE CREATION OF JOBS FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THE SOURCE OF WEALTH and the WELL FROM WHICH THE GREATEST MIDDLE CLASS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN WAS BORN.

a reply to: carewemust

Trump wants to strengthen the military which will involve increasing the already bloated military budget. I have an idea. How about we close those 800 overseas bases and just worry about defending our own borders. That would surely help reduce the strain on the budget.

a reply to: luthier

I have a good understanding of economics historically and presently please compare economic policies Clinton v Trump and elaborate your economic view ATS deserves to know

a reply to: Zngland

Reducing taxes creates a bubble economy when the budget doesn't reflect a ballance . We can't even ballance the budget never mind reduce revanue.

Why would we increase a military budget that far out spends the rest of he world? In one case he complains about protecting trade with our military then talks about increasing the military spending.

Trump and clinton supporters haven't thought anything through or read the proposals.

It's all gut feelings and no substance at all.

Anybody can complain about problems. It's the solutions that are the hard part.

a reply to: luthier

Either candidate will only result in the country ending up in more of a mess than it is already in. Until the government is downsized and restored to it's proper functionality their going to keep spending like a teenage girl with daddy's credit card. How to get the them back under control is another story. Either by vote (if that's even still possible) or by force are about the only two options I can think of offhand.

a reply to: Zngland

Sure...

I will keep it simple .


When you cut taxes you loose revanue. THAT creates debt.

When you don't ballance the budget that creates debt.

When you do both that creates even more debt.

Both clinton and trump will create debt.

Trump will be double debt. Loss of revanue plus congress obviously will not ballance the budget.

Clinton also will increase debt.

Don't fall for a tax cut that creates a rapid national debt growth.

a reply to: Thoren

Or leaks that expose how bad it really is and outrage the public and cause a "glorious" not "bloody" revolution.

Well his opponent and her sorry fake friend Obama are the ones who created the DEBT we re in now,,STARTED BY BILL CLINTONS NAFTA. Your point ?

originally posted by: beeeyotch
Well his opponent and her sorry fake friend Obama are the ones who created the DEBT we re in now,,STARTED BY BILL CLINTONS NAFTA. Your point ?

Uh not even close. Reagan created massive debt along with the savings and loans collapse. George grew the size of government almost as bad as fdr and increased the debt.

But yes so did clinton and Obama policies for sure.

JFK ws the last person to make tax cuts without adding debt.

a reply to: luthier

One can only hope that it doesn't end up bloody but if it does it does. I hope it's not but I don't see the government giving up all the power it has given itself without a struggle.

a reply to: Thoren

They temselves are cowards, so it is possible. We won't do it fighting against each other for the two parties putting us in chains though

a reply to: luthier

They are cowards but they do have forces that execute their commands.

a reply to: Thoren

True but those forces are us, not robots yet. The American military and police would not fight against a united public full of their families and friends. As well as they may feel something is wrong themselves .

Once there are battle Droids them we are screwed.

originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Gothmog

At least Trump talks about the issues...

Yes he talks alot. But that's enough for you, just to hear him talking, apparently.

If only lyin crooked H Gal would talk about the issues. Or even say anything of substance at all. I wonder if she is too far gone from the blood clots.....