U.S. Govt. Hackers Ready to Hit Back If Russia Tries to Disrupt Election

U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News.

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U.S. officials continue to express concern that Russia will use its cyber capabilities to try to disrupt next week's presidential election. U.S. intelligence officials do not expect Russia to attack critical infrastructure — which many believe would be an act of war — but they do anticipate so-called cyber mischief, including the possible release of fake documents and the proliferation of bogus social media accounts designed to spread misinformation.
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We've got Russia and the U.S. giving each other ultimatums concerning possible warfare in public. Let's review Russia's recent ultimatum.

"It is time for our Western partners to determine against whom they are really fighting — the terrorists or Russia." - Russian Defense Minister General Sergey Shoigu

Russian Defense Minister: 'It's time for our Western partners to decide whom they're fighting'

It seems the most popular tactic to derail topics in the WW3 forum right now is to change the topic to "nuclear war won't happen."

1. The "nuclear war won't happen" argument can't be proven because no one knows the future.

2. The "nuclear war won't happen" argument is a type of logical fallacy. The argument could be an example of the gambler's fallacy or an example of the appeal to tradition fallacy depending on how it's used.

3. The "nuclear war won't happen" argument is a red herring concerning all of the different ways that WW3 could happen.

The article linked to at the top of this post is confirmation that a U.S.-Russia war could break out in cyberspace soon. Where would things go from there? It may not seem like much, but anything could be dangerous at this point.

I think the hidden gov will attack the electrical grid in america. Its a false flag, watch come election day the electrical grid go down. It will be blamed on russia and a war will start remember an act of cyber terrorism is considered to be an act of war. With the internet down they will say hitlery won the election based off electoral college votes and the popular vote wont be taken into account.

question does anyone know the places they started fixing the electrical grid in case of a massive solar flare it was talked about recently. I bet its for their info-structure to remain up while everyone elses is down.

a reply to: digital01anarchy

Why wouldn't "They" use the exact same tactic as 'they' did for the farcebook™ IPO??.. Biggest IPO in the history of ALL MANKIND and the guy delivering donuts kicks the cord of the 1 computer they're using.. What did they haul in on that? $100 Billion? Then Agent Zuckerberg surprises everyone who has ever known Him and gets married in Ca. a 50-50 State where Mrs. Zuckerberg, also an agent, gets $50 B right off the bat, so when Our great grandkids discover farcebook™ was nothing more than an informational seine to just suck up intelligence that the 'user' signed-up to freely volunteer their personal info plus what they had for lunch...

This way they can chase more skirts on the retreat where they stay in $1500/night suites and then the Lead Turd says "Same deal w/the last one. See You in the bar. If caught We will disavow any knowledge, blah, blah, blah now go forth and violate people's rights.. BREAK'

hmm
war with Russia if Hillary becomes pres
war with Russia if Hillary does Not become president
decisions..

Again. Who started the rumor Russia was going to try anything ?
Hillary and Barack ?

Why would the U.S. Government say that they've infiltrated Russia's electric grid? Why give the "enemy" information about your activities. By now Russia would have dealt with the threat.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Why would the U.S. Government say that they've infiltrated Russia's electric grid? Why give the "enemy" information about your activities. By now Russia would have dealt with the threat.

Exactly. It's just propaganda. Anyone that believes it to be true is a fool.

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Why would the U.S. Government say that they've infiltrated Russia's electric grid? Why give the "enemy" information about your activities. By now Russia would have dealt with the threat.

The U.S. government didn't claim it. As you can read below, we're relying on "a [supposed] senior intelligence official and [supposed] top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News."

U.S. military hackers have penetrated Russia's electric grid, telecommunications networks and the Kremlin's command systems, making them vulnerable to attack by secret American cyber weapons should the U.S. deem it necessary, according to a senior intelligence official and top-secret documents reviewed by NBC News.
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originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: TheLotLizard
Why would the U.S. Government say that they've infiltrated Russia's electric grid? Why give the "enemy" information about your activities. By now Russia would have dealt with the threat.

Exactly. It's just propaganda. Anyone that believes it to be true is a fool.

How does this rumor meet the definition of propaganda?

ideas or statements that are often false or exaggerated and that are spread in order to help a cause, a political leader, a government, etc.
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Whether or not it's even up to the level of propaganda depends on whether people believe NBC News as being a completely credible source. I don't know of anyone who believes that.

The entire basis for the article is NBC News supposedly having an unnamed senior intelligence official giving them information as well as "top-secret documents" that they supposedly have read. How does something like that "help a cause, a political leader, a government, etc."?

If you're going to claim it's propaganda then it's up to you prove that you're right. This story just looks like honest news reporting to me. If it's meant to be propaganda, it's so poorly done that it doesn't even meet the lowest standard of potentially qualifying as propaganda in my opinion.

I am sure Russia will then hack our power grids. So then I guess we will all be in the dark except of course Washington DC that probably does not have it's grid on the net. It seems like our government wants all grids made susceptible except it's own because they have passed requirements that power grids need to be able to be accessed by our government if needed.

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