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originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: chr0naut
An 'absence of belief in God' is an item in the great set of 'absence of belief'.
You do realize that rocks are 'atheist' by your definition.
As I said "persistent vegetative state".
Rocks can't believe anything at all. I can. I can believe lots of stuff. I just don't believe in what a lot of people call a God that's all.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: neoholographic
What would evidence of "Non-Existence" be???
To measure something or show something that exists it must be something first. It must have a property that can be shown. Non-Existence or Nothing has no properties which I can show. Therefore what evidence could I possible have for it???
originally posted by: neoholographic
That never made any sense to me. Wh
originally posted by: neoholographic
There's no evidence of non existence at death.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: neoholographic
That never made any sense to me. Wh
Agnostic-atheist = I dont know of any deities, therefore I wont believe in any
Agnostic-atheist = I dont know if there are deities, but there may be, I will believe in one (or many) because who knows
Gnostic atheist = I know by magic there are no gods
Gnostic theist = I know by magic there are gods.
originally posted by: Noncompatible
I look forward to the day when people realise that unless they acknowledge ALL the creator myths. not just the one they believe, they are also an atheist.
originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: chr0naut
Ok, well. I would say a true lack of belief would have to like your disbelief in a "Hoomtaka". The reason being is that you have no idea what a "Hoomtaka" even is, although now you do know it's name. So in that case you had a true non-belief in "Hoomtaka" because before now you didn't even know it's name or anything at all about it. It just never existed at all until now, not even in name.
That would be a true lack of belief I think. God is said to be many different things and even different Gods depending upon who you're talking to. So while I may know that name and have different concepts of what God may or may not be I don't consider that to be enough to say I believe in God. Because I have no idea what is correct or not correct in all those descriptions and concepts. It's just a random blur of stuff. Imaginative stuff as far as I can tell.
So while that may not be as true of a non-belief as it could be had I never even heard the word God or any descriptions, it's still close enough for me to say I lack belief in God. Mainly because I have no idea what God even is so how the hell could I believe in God. It's like you believing in Hoomtaka. How could you believe in Hoomtaka since you wouldn't even know what it is without me telling you first.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: Noncompatible
I look forward to the day when people realise that unless they acknowledge ALL the creator myths. not just the one they believe, they are also an atheist.
That's what I keep saying. Believers always think of non-Believers (of God obviously) as something totally different than themselves, but they aren't.
If you believe in one God, say the Christian God, your only one God away from being an atheist. Both you and the Atheist don't believe in all the other Gods just the same. It's just that the Christian decided to hold on to that last one and the Atheist doesn't.
WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE THAT DEATH MEANS YOU CEASE TO EXIST?
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: SaturnFX
?∃(x)(Fx)
You can most definatelty prove a negative.
I can prove there is not a Porshe in my garage.