Trump isn't the problem, voters are.

Some examples of Republican voter hypocrisy:

If we win the presidency, our Supreme Court nominees should be confirmed. When you win the presidency, we will block you at every turn.

If Trump wins, the election is legitimate and the people have SPOKEN. If Hillary wins, it must be RIGGED.

Donald Trump is accused of forcing himself on over ten women. STICK TO THE ISSUES. Bill Clinton accused of misconduct by four women. His wife should be disqualified from office and imprisoned.

Hillary Clinton has not directly mentioned any of Trump's accusers. She needs to stop distracting from real issues. Trump has a press conference with four of Bill Clinton's accusers, gives them front row seats to the debate, and mentions them during debate. Great job taking the gloves off, president Trump.

Bill Clinton cheats on his wife. Impeach him. Trump proudly brags about sexual assault (has 5 kids with 3 wives and has cheated on his wives). Elect him.

Hillary oversaw the Department of State while four people died in an embassy attack. JAIL HER. Two Republicans were in office while over 200 people died in embassy attacks. No problem.

Immigrants don't pay taxes. Round them up and kick them out. Trump doesn't pay taxes. He's a business genius.

Independent fact checkers found Trump is likely the least truthful candidate in the history of modern politics. He tells it like it is. Hillary is statistically more truthful than most politicians according to fact checkers. She is the most untrustworthy, lying liar who has ever run for political office.
The Clinton Foundation only spent 87% of their donations helping people (average amount is 75%). CROOKED. Trump's foundation paid off his debts, bought paintings of him, and made political donations to avoid investigations for a fake university while giving less than 5% of funds to charity (and he got shut down by NY State). So savvy...put him in the White House.

Trump made 4 billion dollars in 40 years, when an index fund started at the same time with the same "small loans" he received would be worth $12 billion today... without a trail of bankruptcies, thousands of lawsuits and burned small business owners. He's a real business whiz. Hillary took a loss of $700k. She's a criminal.

Trump is the first candidate in the modern era to not release his tax returns, and he took a almost billion-dollar loss in one year. Genius. Hillary releases 40 years of taxes. Corrupt. Trump denies saying things (on the record) he actually said (on the record). He's just telling it like it is.


Their arguments are thin. Their ignorance of reality is shocking. Their double standards are offensive, and their willingness to blindly support Republicans and recycle the rhetoric is absurd. Opinion is not fact. Memes are not news articles. Hypocrisy is not a platform. Eisenhower is rolling over in his grave over what they have done to the once-great Republican party.

We have the government we voted in.

Unfortunately the majority of the people have been infected with the disease of the people having realized that they can vote themselves money which means the end of the republic.

a reply to: defiythelie

Oh yea and in this day and age we should still go in for a lifelong career politician with a foundation and sh*t.

a reply to: defiythelie

A great thread here my friend. You did a great job putting the ironies out there. Congrats and thank you.

a reply to: defiythelie

Sorry, both dems and repups suck. The system (machine) isn't and won't support a candidate that won't tow the parties line.

No, Trump is on no high horse, but this has been covered with mountains of evidence, Hillary is the most corrupt person to ever run for office.

a reply to: defiythelie

If Trump wins, the election is legitimate and the people have SPOKEN. If Hillary wins, it must be RIGGED.

You do know the media claimed it was going to be rigged by Russia before Trump started saying this right? You guys are comical.

a reply to: defiythelie

Just sayin'.....

If we win the presidency, our Supreme Court nominees should be confirmed. When you win the presidency, we will block you at every turn.

Under Obama, were any justices appointed to the SCOTUS? How many?

If Trump wins, the election is legitimate and the people have SPOKEN. If Hillary wins, it must be RIGGED.

The feeling amongst some is that the collusion between the MSM and Clinton campaign is rigging the game.

Bill Clinton cheats on his wife. Impeach him.

You do understand that President Clinton was impeached for lying under oath rather than having an affair, right?

Hillary oversaw the Department of State while four people died in an embassy attack.

It's not the attack on Benghazi per se, it's the lies and cover-up afterwards that cause people to question her credibility.
I would also point out that for all her "saber rattling" against Russia.... It was Hillary that gave that "Reset Button" to Russia. How'd that work out?
Hillary also had much to do with the Arab Spring. Quite the record as Secretary of State there.

I'd like to go on but time is short at the moment.

So

Vote Clinton ?

I'm really busy making bullet points of Hillarys' corruption from all these emails they keep releasing. Can someone gimme the cliff notes version of the OP.

Back to work

a reply to: defiythelie

The voters are your friends, family, neighbors. They just have different opinions as to who would be best to lead the country.

a reply to: jellyrev

Trump has been claiming it is all rigged ever since early in the primaries when voting started happening.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: defiythelie

Sorry, both dems and repups suck. The system (machine) isn't and won't support a candidate that won't tow the parties line.

Yeah, they interviewed someone on FOX who said it best: It's like asking me which I want in my backyard - rotting garbage or poop. Well, they both stink!

originally posted by: In4ormant
I'm really busy making bullet points of Hillarys' corruption from all these emails they keep releasing. Can someone gimme the cliff notes version of the OP.

Back to work

The voters are the problem. The OP seems to think it would be better if we either had some kind of poll tax test, or just plain never let anyone vote or removed all the deplorable voters.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: In4ormant
I'm really busy making bullet points of Hillarys' corruption from all these emails they keep releasing. Can someone gimme the cliff notes version of the OP.

Back to work

The voters are the problem. The OP seems to think it would be better if we either had some kind of poll tax test, or just plain never let anyone vote or removed all the deplorable voters.

I consider myself a patriot for casting a vote against this woman controlling our country.

a reply to: In4ormant

I don't disagree, but I guess the OP surely does as we would be the problem with everything.

a reply to: defiythelie

I think you need some corrections and source citations, in any event, this should be in the rant forum.

Cheers - Dave

No. Trump and Clinton are the product of a system where accounability and the rule of law have been rendered meaningless.

It used to make sense to me to blame the voter, but I no longer believe that. We are all vassals to a state of the Union that is corrupt, dishonest, and feckless in its attemps to live up to the principles espoused by the Founding Fathers. Moreover, I no longer believe it possible to ferret out the 'truth' on anything as a voter.

Your blame, in addition to being one-sided in my opionion, is grossly unfair to an electorate that is powerless to do much of anything else.

originally posted by: ketsuko
The voters are the problem. The OP seems to think it would be better if we either had some kind of poll tax test, or just plain never let anyone vote or removed all the deplorable voters.

How do you know that's what the OP thinks??

Maybe he would just like a more educated and politically aware population of voters.

a reply to: mOjOm

But having a more educated, politically aware populace would mean that voters would be free to make up their own minds and then they would decide ... meaning some of them would vote for the candidate you think is the "bad" one, and it seems to be the OP doesn't want that at all.

Why on earth name a candidate at all in his thread title if he merely thinks we have a voting public that is dumber than dirt? Because I do agree that accusation can be fairly leveled at voters all across the left/right spectrum.