I hate modern architecture!

I don't wanna go to modern shopping centers or "business buildings" any more!

Everything is made of glass, and the steps are like glorified wooden ladders.

They have no respect for people with agoraphobia, or people who fear heights.

Panic and anxiety conditions are now common, and I bet it has something to do with this awful architecture.

You wanna go shopping, then you bump into a lift.
WTF people?
It's like a mine-shaft. You can see the cables and the pit and everything!

Are we shoppers or maintenance crew?
Do we Really Need To See That?

I want the old shopping back with the tiles and kitsch Art Deco.

I wanna see nice tiles and things, and not be forced to look 5 km's up or down just to go shopping, or to the bank.

Not everyone came from a mountain tribe that's OK with heights.
I come from a forest tribe, we never knew heights for thousands of years.

I tell you, if you make my world see-through - you lose me as a customer.
Somebody better tell them before they put up another glorified "humanitarium".

I ain't no fish.
For me down is "splat"!

I don't understand what your going on about really.. you are from a forest tribe?

Modern architecture is beautiful in many places, there is not one version of modern architecture.

Many countries do architecture differently, and many architects themselves have their own unique concepts and ideas of design etc..

Today's modern architecture, for instance you chose to single shopping malls.. which are flooded and enjoyed by hundreds of millions of people in almost every developed country.

They have no issue, and most are not from any mountain tribe.

My advice, don't visit them to let it bother you.

a reply to: Elementalist

You're definitely right; not one size fits all.

But the main ones I know, and the way they remade these malls?

It's like minimalism or something.

Everything is made of glass, and you feel like walking to a mine shaft around every corner.

People who have no problem with it won't understand.

But people who have these phobias and fears find it very difficult to navigate.

Everything bigger, higher and see-through.

And it's time these customers spoke up too.

Give me proper walls and give me proper stairs.

Not a wood-panel above a wood-panel!

And give me proper lifts, not a glass-bowl in the sky, and almost walking into a bottomless pit every few feet.

We had perfectly good stone and tiled stairs in the 1980's.

Not sure why they had to rip them out and put these wooden gang-plank monstrosities in everywhere.

But I won't walk up or down them, or support any place that uses them.

Must we all be Pirates now?

These stairs are a neo-Victorean health-risk.
Just wait till your sandal gets stuck.
Lifts are like mine-shafts.
(Not even miners were treated that badly though - they had unions in the day.)

A right pleasure modern architects have made shopping.
I won't be back.

Oh you need the gents?

Try our string and wood footbridge.

I'd rather abseil across.

More unhuman and unfriendly spaces cannot be designed.

I wonder who comes up with this stuff, when we once had proper malls?

And the funniest thing is - then don't call it a "mall".

When they've chopped enough trees down in some forest to make stairs that would have been considered a health-hazard in the 19th century, they no longer call it a "mall".

It's now a "lifestyle center"!

Pfff - a mommy's shoe gets stuck in the terrible design, and she breaks her neck.

Oh no, the horrid design isn't at fault.

There's a big sign - use at own risk!

Did you just hexatruple-post?

Anyway. At first when I read the title I thought you meant something like this:



But after reading your OP it sounds like you're explaining literally any mall; not even a modern one.

They have no respect for people with agoraphobia

... You do realize that people with Agoraphobia are people whom have an extreme/irrational fear of crowded spaces or enclosed public places. That would be ANY public building at all, especially malls, no matter what kind of architectural style they have.

Proper cement stairs can be built!

As far as I'm concerned, except for emergency stairs these should be ripped out for the public.
They're not for everyday use.

Yet my money helps to maintain them.
People varnishing them and stuff.

No, I want proper cement stairs.

a reply to: Ghost147

Not as far as I know.

But let's say, especially with fear of shopping centers a lot of phobias converge.

My main ones are spatial, rather than social.

So that has aspects of agoraphobia and the fear of heights.

originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: Ghost147

Not as far as I know.

Yes... You posted 6 times in a row without anyone else commenting. You know when people say "oops, double post" when they accidentally post back to back? You just did that an additional 4 times, but intentionally, despite some of those posts being edited, so you do actually know how to edit a post.

It just looks like you're spamming your own topic (every 15 minutes on average) because no one is responding to it.

originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: Ghost147
But let's say, especially with fear of shopping centers a lot of phobias converge.

My main ones are spatial, rather than social.

So that has aspects of agoraphobia and the fear of heights.

Sure... Lets say that's accurate for the sake of argument. Earlier you stated the following:

But people who have these phobias and fears find it very difficult to navigate. Everything bigger, higher and see-through. And it's time these customers spoke up too.

Spoke up to what? To Get the buildings changed?

1.8 out of 318.9 million americans have Agoraphobia. That's about 0.5% of the population. Why would malls or any other building change anything because of 0.5% of the population that not only wouldn't be effected by the change at all, but still wouldn't go to the malls because of their condition anyway because that have a fear of enclosed public spaces?

This is what's wrong with PC... You can't please everyone

a reply to: Ghost147

So you gonna clean all those windows then?

originally posted by: halfoldman
a reply to: Ghost147

So you gonna clean all those windows then?

What the hell are you talking about?

Anyways, I'm done. Enjoy your anxiety...

a reply to: Ghost147

It's my thread, I can comment as much as I like.

I broke no rules.

Sure, you can quote figures from what you like, wherever you at.

Here I could say it's 20 percent (people suffering from anxiety, including things like agoraphobia and so forth).

But yes, it does matter.
Every customer lost matters.

Otherwise they wouldn't want my cookies.

a reply to: Ghost147

OK then, but you posted the pic, and I assume that's glass?

Who must clean it?

Glass gets weathered and dirty.

a reply to: Ghost147

No but you have a point.

A new convergence of "phobia" is afoot.

It is not entirely this or that.

But a lot of the panic is experienced first time in shopping malls.

Look I'm not here to diagnose or make enemies.

I'm here to tell the truth.

And it started with bridges.

But I could still force myself across.

But with with the wooden stairs -no ways.

And like it was with bridges, you feel something's sucking you off the edge.

Now in malls it feels like something is sucking you up to the ceiling.
Yeah, it's gonna suck you up, and drop you.

I don't know where it came from, and never had it before.

That was my problem.

But now a lot of people say, they don't feel comfortable in malls either.

It is wider than I thought.

All I can say is a lot of people have it my age.

I can't say this or that for sure.

But of course it's a problem.

Years ago I already posted about ceilings being too high.
And yeah, some people felt the same.

Like I said, if you don't have have it, you won't know it.

a reply to: halfoldman

But I know I'm not the only one.

And it came out of the blue.

It's horrific and debilitating.